Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

download it and turn the 'trace' off

2 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Think it means it’s a total ban of households mixing anywhere indoors 

Aye. Whereas now you can mix in pubs and eateries

52 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Yeah agreed mate, It just pisses me off when the experts have to counteract mis-information from folk who have no great responsibility to the welfare of the general public. 

If you were are spokesperson in the hospitality trade, would you 

A/ Paint the whole picture, and look for reasonable and inovative ways to increase trade / save jobs and protect customers at the same time - In a nutshell, admitt that being indoors for several hours,  in pubs and restaurants in high infection areas, is likley to increase their customer's and staff chance of catching covid, and push for more outdoor/takeaway provision, better policing of venue adherence to the regulations, higher furlough payments and finacaial support for their workers and business owners etc.

B/ Paint one side of the picture, ask for proof all the time, when they've obviously already clever enough to have it because they've looked at the report, dispute the obvious reasoning that shows why transmission is a higher risk , point the finger at other venues/ geographic areas. 

 

The folk I have heard from the hospitality trade have sounded very reasonable to me (based on 5 live this morning) 

They were pointing out that education settings (schools, Uni’s etc) are responsible for many more transmissions than their sector yet they are being considered for shutting down (despite many of them implementing measures to reduce transmission)

Seems fair to me (if true) 

I guess it would help if you offered full funding for them to close rather than just part funding, but we can’t afford that. In which case don’t close them, personally I don’t see how you can shut industries down without fully funding them 

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14 minutes ago, Casino said:

Aye. Whereas now you can mix in pubs and eateries

I think mixing in gardens no more than 6 maybe announced 

1 hour ago, peelyfeet said:

Yeah agreed mate, It just pisses me off when the experts have to counteract mis-information from folk who have no great responsibility to the welfare of the general public. 

If you were are spokesperson in the hospitality trade, would you 

A/ Paint the whole picture, and look for reasonable and inovative ways to increase trade / save jobs and protect customers at the same time - In a nutshell, admitt that being indoors for several hours,  in pubs and restaurants in high infection areas, is likley to increase their customer's and staff chance of catching covid, and push for more outdoor/takeaway provision, better policing of venue adherence to the regulations, higher furlough payments and finacaial support for their workers and business owners etc.

B/ Paint one side of the picture, ask for proof all the time, when they've obviously already clever enough to have it because they've looked at the report, dispute the obvious reasoning that shows why transmission is a higher risk , point the finger at other venues/ geographic areas. 

 

I would flip it round and say ‘ our establishments have worked at great cost to implement and enforce Covid safety rules. We support the Govt in tackling Covid and agree that establishments not following the rules should be fined more heavily alongside similar measures for other businesses and individuals who fail to comply. However for establishments playing by the rules where there is no data to support extra measures we feel the constraints are extreme and unfair. In particular the 10 o’clock curfew does not appear to be backed by the science. ‘ 

 

5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

To cold for garden parties, kitchen parties is were we are at now 🕺🍾🍻 🍸

In the kitchen blasting cascada out CH style 

11 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

To cold for garden parties, kitchen parties is were we are at now 🕺🍾🍻 🍸

I've got more outdoor heating than in the house.

8 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

In the kitchen blasting cascada out CH style 

Thought he was taking piss at first but he genuinely is into his Clubland stuff isnt he. Fair fucking play 🤣

26 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

The folk I have heard from the hospitality trade have sounded very reasonable to me (based on 5 live this morning) 

They were pointing out that education settings (schools, Uni’s etc) are responsible for many more transmissions than their sector yet they are being considered for shutting down (despite many of them implementing measures to reduce transmission)

Seems fair to me (if true) 

I guess it would help if you offered full funding for them to close rather than just part funding, but we can’t afford that. In which case don’t close them, personally I don’t see how you can shut industries down without fully funding them 

It's not true as far as I'm aware, schools have lower transmission rates,  better tracing, smaller groups at risk, faster identification of those needing to isolate, and are populated by a demographic that is showing the smallest rise in spread. Van Tam said similar a few hrs ago.

Universities is another matter. Fucked it up there big time. 

Nandy isn't happy, only Wigan though so who cares? I 😆

 

6 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Nandy isn't happy, only Wigan though so who cares? I 😆

 

And it’s only Lisa Nandy so folk will give even less of a fuck. 
 

thing is none of them are getting a choice it’s not a round the table discussion it’s here’s your tier, this is what it means, adios 

14 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Nandy isn't happy, only Wigan though so who cares? I 😆

 

Just a shithole near Bolton, love

16 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

And it’s only Lisa Nandy so folk will give even less of a fuck. 
 

thing is none of them are getting a choice it’s not a round the table discussion it’s here’s your tier, this is what it means, adios 

Not at all

Pretty clear Bozo wants GM (and/or others)in tier 3

Local politicians saying no way

For now, anyway

Edited October 12, 20205 yr by Casino

Much ado about nothing.

As you were.

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

Not at all

 

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Pretty clear Bozo wants GM (and/or others)in tier 3

Local politicians saying no way

For now, anyway

Where have you seen this ? That he wanted to put into tier 3? Other than people blowing their own trumpet as being then saviors of the hospitality industry?

im still not having anyone is getting a choice here. But look forward to the proof of otherwise 

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Much ado about nothing.

As you were.

Nah

More money will be found and we will be 3

Think its us but could be NE?

Just now, Escobarp said:

 

Where have you seen this ? That he wanted to put into tier 3? Other than people blowing their own trumpet as being then saviors of the hospitality industry?

im still not having anyone is getting a choice here. But look forward to the proof of otherwise 

Just needed to listen to him

He thanked Liverpool

Said talks ongoing with others

Liverpool is 3 and they’re not getting more money. They’ve asked but as of yet nowt forthcoming as far as I’m aware. Which seems to contradict the view that local politicians get a say? I Could be wrong though 

Well I guess we're in the last chance saloon.

Let's hope Peely is correct and our numbers have levelled off.

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Just now, Casino said:

Just needed to listen to him

He thanked Liverpool

Said talks ongoing with others

My view is he’s trying to sound more conciliatory and act like he’s governing in a more inclusive manner. But I can’t see how they can. Someone needs to make the decisions and implement them. Same as krankie is doing.

Why is fat bastard blackford asking boris to comment on testing procedures when in the country for which he represents as an mp it’s his party that control testing and not the Tories? 

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Well I guess we're in the last chance saloon.

Let's hope Peely is correct and our numbers have levelled off.

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Walking past Greggs earlier.... "I've got rights." I'm going to twat someone soon enough.

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

My view is he’s trying to sound more conciliatory and act like he’s governing in a more inclusive manner. But I can’t see how they can. Someone needs to make the decisions and implement them. Same as krankie is doing.

I do agree with that

But sell it to folk

If the evidence is there, show it

1 minute ago, Casino said:

I do agree with that

But sell it to folk

If the evidence is there, show it

Problem is the evidence folk wanted they tried, I think , to show this morning and it’s just a confusing myriad of graphs with varying scales and you end up more lost. Might just be me of course. 
 

the problem is the people they need to sell it to to make it work don’t give a fuck. And then you’ve folk deleting the app as they’ve been told to isolate which won’t be limited to mounts it will be all over the place. 
 

unless we all chip in here we are fucked and measures will become more draconian. And then those people that ignore them now will moan the loudest. We really do have a very high proportion of knobheads on our fair shores.