Coronavirus

[Casino]

21 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

Got a call from the surgery last Thursday. Booked for last Saturday at 8.20am. Done and out for 8.30. 

It was a logistical nightmare, im told.

But it all went really well and they got about 550 through

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

This NHS Covid app is saying I should self isolate until 23rd October, no reason, no explanation, wife works in school and lads gone to school yet they’ve been with me all weekend. it’s utter bollocks, you can’t just stop the world every time you have been in the vicinity of someone who’s tested positive. 

It can't tell you the reason, because its not allowed to. It doesn't keep data as such nor pass it to authorities. It just tells you when you may be at risk.

Its not bollocks at all, its to help us continue as best as we can. Failing to utilise such things properly is just going to push infection rates the wrong way, and cause more intensive lockdowns etc.

[Ghana White]

16 minutes ago, Spider said:

Mentioning the Nightingales is a scare tactic. Fact.

Its still not really been explained who is going to staff the nightingales? I reckon you're right 

[Zico]

3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Just been on government website, can’t have test, not key worker and no symptoms, luckily I’m working from home so no risk to anyone. Wife and son in school though. 

how did you get tested last time?

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

Its not bollocks at all, its to help us continue as best as we can. Failing to utilise such things properly is just going to push infection rates the wrong way, and cause more intensive lockdowns etc.

I think the problem is, that there will be plenty who get a notification and just say "bollocks, I feel fine" and then carry on as normal anyway. I'd like to think that Mounts will at least stay in his house until 23rd October, and not just carry on his life as normal

[wiggy]

23 minutes ago, Sweep said:

......because somebody once posted a graph on Twitter that showed only 4% of infections were from pubs, so they assumed this must and will always be the case, that only 4% of infections will ever be from pubs. Generally, because they're thick as pig shit.

A question on the numbers around location of transmission.... Presumably if someone contracts the virus in the pub, goes home and gives it to 3 family members then that counts as 1 transmission in a pub and 3 in home?

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, Sweep said:

......because somebody once posted a graph on Twitter that showed only 4% of infections were from pubs, so they assumed this must and will always be the case, that only 4% of infections will ever be from pubs. Generally, because they're thick as pig shit.

And before it got into someone’s home, it must have come from somewhere

[birch-chorley]

A huge increase in cases has come from Universities opening up 

Poor fuckers have paid £9k to be locked up in halls and not get an education. It’s like the cruise ships back in March 

Plenty Liverpool locals are saying send all the students back and keep businesses open, it’s a valid point to be fair but then again the students drive a big chunk of the cities economy 

[gonzo]

All flights in and out to be cancelled.

RAF fighter jets being scrambled as we speak to stop all private aircraft.

[Sweep]

21 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

A huge increase in cases has come from Universities opening up 

Poor fuckers have paid £9k to be locked up in halls and not get an education. It’s like the cruise ships back in March 

Plenty Liverpool locals are saying send all the students back and keep businesses open, it’s a valid point to be fair but then again the students drive a big chunk of the cities economy 

Agreed, and you'd expect another large spike across the country, when they do eventually go home, so maybe best to leave then where they are, under house arrest

[Sweep]

26 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

And before it got into someone’s home, it must have come from somewhere

true, that's why I can't understand why the "rule of 6" is still a thing where I live. On Friday afternoon, I was in our local town, loads of people in the pubs, sat down, no masks on  - all of them obeying the rules, and having no more than 6 to a table, but surely that has the potential to help spread the virus exponentially. Pubs & restaurants have to be the main area for this virus spreading now I'd have thought

[Ani]

59 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Van Tam just said - in response to whats the evidence for shutting pubs and bars

Virus thrives on Human contact and the conditions that favour the spread of the virus are the 3 C's

Closed spaces (poor ventilation)

Crowded spaces

Close Contact

Plus D - the Duration you are likely to be in a venue with the above circumstances and 

V - the volume of noise in the venue - shouting and singing enables the virus to spread more easily.

If you also consider that the age groups likley to frequent pubs and bars are those with the highest concentration of infected. 

I don't understand why folk cant see why the experts think that Pubs and bars indoors, tick all the boxes, unfortunate though it is.

 

 

 

Because ‘experts’ also need to back their theories with facts. We should have these facts from track and trace. So either publish the stats or admit track and trace does not have such info. 
I do not oppose the restrictions , but do want to see that the hardships they bring are based on ‘the science’. 

[Zico]

20 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

A huge increase in cases has come from Universities opening up 

Poor fuckers have paid £9k to be locked up in halls and not get an education. It’s like the cruise ships back in March 

Plenty Liverpool locals are saying send all the students back and keep businesses open, it’s a valid point to be fair but then again the students drive a big chunk of the cities economy 

but then you're potentially sending 000s of infected students across the country and back home to pass it on there

they need isolating and testing, not being left to go and take it elsewhere, potentially

it's already happening though, mums mate's grandaughter is at liverpool - does an art course, so can't all be done online

she caught it, soon as herr housemates found out, they went home

[Escobarp]

4 minutes ago, Ani said:

Because ‘experts’ also need to back their theories with facts. We should have these facts from track and trace. So either publish the stats or admit track and trace does not have such info. 
I do not oppose the restrictions , but do want to see that the hardships they bring are based on ‘the science’. 

Where have you been apart from a pub or a restaurant where you’ve been asked to provide contact details for track and trace so far? 

[Sweep]

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Where have you been apart from a pub or a restaurant where you’ve been asked to provide contact details for track and trace so far? 

A couple of my customers last week made me zap the QR code, as did the Pharmacy in our village - other than that, only Pubs, restaurants and the local Cafe

[Casino]

Probably as good a place as any

https://goodlawproject.org/news/keeping-us-in-the-dark/

[Escobarp]

7 minutes ago, Sweep said:

A couple of my customers last week made me zap the QR code, as did the Pharmacy in our village - other than that, only Pubs, restaurants and the local Cafe

I’ve only been asked in pubs and restaurants so far and I log into the gym using my app which records it also. 

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said:

how did you get tested last time?

There was a drive through where you could get tested without symptoms in Preston, that’s now closed. 

[Spider]

38 minutes ago, gonzo said:

All flights in and out to be cancelled.

RAF fighter jets being scrambled as we speak to stop all private aircraft.

Cargo planes being prepared as temporary morgues to dump bodies at sea

[Mounts Kipper]

The NHS app is getting deleted after this isolation is finished. Can’t live life under this type of restriction. 

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The NHS app is getting deleted after this isolation is finished. Can’t live life under this type of restriction. 

It is what it is

if we can put up with Brexit, you can sit at home.

Some use you’d have been against the nazis. REMF

[Zico]

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

There was a drive through where you could get tested without symptoms in Preston, that’s now closed. 

could you not:

a ) pretend you have symptons, or

b ) tell them your wife is a key worker so it's imperative you are tested?

you really can't be exposing them to it if they're going to school, or, your mrs needs testing asap too

[Escobarp]

Just now, ZicoKelly said:

could you not:

a ) pretend you have symptons, or

b ) tell them your wife is a key worker so it's imperative you are tested?

you really can't be exposing them to it if they're going to school, or, your mrs needs testing asap too

They’ve already gone to school could be too late 

[Traf]

1 hour ago, Ghana White said:

Its still not really been explained who is going to staff the nightingales? I reckon you're right 

D'oh!

The 50,000 new nurses they promised.

Oh, do keep up, lad.

[peelyfeet]

17 minutes ago, Ani said:

Because ‘experts’ also need to back their theories with facts. We should have these facts from track and trace. So either publish the stats or admit track and trace does not have such info. 
I do not oppose the restrictions , but do want to see that the hardships they bring are based on ‘the science’. 

the data is in the weekly report - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/923668/Weekly_COVID19_Surveillance_Report_week_40.pdf

Some pro hospitality trade social media accounts decided to ignore the figures that show eating out / leisure in a bad light - see page 21 onwards - and instead focus on the data that puts hospitality in a good light on page 15 - create their own chart from it, and then publish one side of the story and narrative, instead of painting the whole picture.

A few weeks ago, tracing someone in a pub was much harder than in a school/uni/hospital/care home, because the record keeping enabling it to be done was reliant on folk filling in a piece of paper correctly,  in some pubs, versus proper record keeping in the schools/hospitas/care homes, so the insinuation is you'll trace less in areas where the record keeping is worse, in venues where people dont know who everyone is, in venues where multiple people come in and out, as opposed to venues where there are exact records of where people sit/ are in bed, how long for, and who's been in and out of close contact with each other.