birch-chorley Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Had my flu jab last week at the doctors as usual. Local pharmacy also have them available. AXA pulled ours this year Work have said source them locally (home based) and expense I’m struggling to find any available locally Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: We played Astley Buckshaw at Fylde Academy a week ago. His team played at parklands in chorley I think, against a Buckshaw team this weekend, not sure who last week - so maybe a tenuous link - if your app is saying 23rd - it thinks your contact was last Thursday, Friday or Saturday morning at the latest I bet - anyone who developed symptoms yesterday probably hasn't had their test result back yet Edited October 12, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote
Sweep Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Marc505 said: I don't think you'll be able to just go to your local doctors for this one, the storage of it and specific staffing requirements for it will probably mean theres only a few sites per region designated to administer it. It wont be a short process, and its going to cause a lot of bother while people wait months for their turn. It'll take ages, some bod on the radio the other week reckoned that if we have a guaranteed vaccine ready to go on 1st January, it could take well over a year before everybody in the UK would - it was very crude maths, but I'm sure they were saying there are 32 million seconds in a year, so even a jab every second would take two years. The main issue, was pretty much the storage and distribution and getting folk to the places that would be doing the jabs - even if every town/village/city had the perfect facilities, it would still take an absolute age. It was also suggested, no way on earth could the public be trusted to administer it themselves - it would have to be done by a professional, and logged properly, and put on your medical records......again, that slows the whole process down Quote
Sweep Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Have you checked with your bit on the side? I think he's probably perfectly healthy 😀 Quote
Ani Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: This NHS Covid app is saying I should self isolate until 23rd October, no reason, no explanation, wife works in school and lads gone to school yet they’ve been with me all weekend. it’s utter bollocks, you can’t just stop the world every time you have been in the vicinity of someone who’s tested positive. Is it actually on the App or just a notification ? There have issues with false notifications being sent. Although if yours has a date on sounds ‘proper’. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: His team played at parklands in chorley I think, against a Buckshaw team this weekend, not sure who last week - so maybe a tenuous link - if your app is saying 23rd - it thinks your contact was last Thursday, Friday or Saturday morning at the latest I bet - anyone who developed symptoms yesterday probably hasn't had their test result back yet What’s the crack with wife and son will they be ok to stay in school. Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: What’s the crack with wife and son will they be ok to stay in school. yeah mate, unless you get symptoms or a positive test, they just crack on Quote
Traf Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Van Tam BBC news now. That North West heat map looked grim. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted October 12, 2020 Moderators Posted October 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sweep said: It'll take ages, some bod on the radio the other week reckoned that if we have a guaranteed vaccine ready to go on 1st January, it could take well over a year before everybody in the UK would - it was very crude maths, but I'm sure they were saying there are 32 million seconds in a year, so even a jab every second would take two years. The main issue, was pretty much the storage and distribution and getting folk to the places that would be doing the jabs - even if every town/village/city had the perfect facilities, it would still take an absolute age. It was also suggested, no way on earth could the public be trusted to administer it themselves - it would have to be done by a professional, and logged properly, and put on your medical records......again, that slows the whole process down https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/18786675.coronavirus-bolton-new-approach-flu-vaccines-working/ Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, Traf said: That North West heat map looked grim. Yes - only positive I can draw is that we've already had restrictions round here, that look like they kicked in, if you look at Bolton's figures over the last few weeks - I'm hoping that the same will happen in other areas of the NW, and we'll get over the worst of our outbreak before the really bad weather - I'd rather have it now than in December/January. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sweep said: I think he's probably perfectly healthy 😀 There’s always one. 😂 Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: yeah mate, unless you get symptoms or a positive test, they just crack on This is where it’s bollocks, I could have it could of passed it on to them and they are now in school. Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: This is where it’s bollocks, I could have it could of passed it on to them and they are now in school. doubtful -if you caught it on Friday, you probably won't be infectious just yet and they wouldn't if they'd caught it from you. Quote
Sweep Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, peelyfeet said: doubtful -if you caught it on Friday, you probably won't be infectious just yet and they wouldn't if they'd caught it from you. no, but he could become infectious at some point in the next few days, and he'll not be isolating from his wife and son (I'm assuming) so he could infect them, and they will still be going to school (I presume) Quote
Sweep Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Yes - only positive I can draw is that we've already had restrictions round here, that look like they kicked in, if you look at Bolton's figures over the last few weeks - I'm hoping that the same will happen in other areas of the NW, and we'll get over the worst of our outbreak before the really bad weather - I'd rather have it now than in December/January. I said this in the pub on Friday night - the North is currently getting slammed, and where we live there are very few cases, although last week our reported cases jumped from 19/100,000 to 35/100,000 so we might well get hit with it in the next few weeks, when the weather is a lot worse, and other seasonal lurgies are around. Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweep said: no, but he could become infectious at some point in the next few days, and he'll not be isolating from his wife and son (I'm assuming) so he could infect them, and they will still be going to school (I presume) exactly, which is why the govmt tell you to distance from household members as well as possible, and why the app has been introduced, because he's found out that he may be a risk, he might not have done if he'd not had it turned on - might be asymptomatic and might have gone to the pub, oblivious this week. Quote
Escobarp Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Thing is restrictions aren’t getting relaxed anywhere just made tougher across the board so other areas will Simply be playing catch up. This is us til the new year now. Get used to it chaps Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: I said this in the pub on Friday night - the North is currently getting slammed, and where we live there are very few cases, although last week our reported cases jumped from 19/100,000 to 35/100,000 so we might well get hit with it in the next few weeks, when the weather is a lot worse, and other seasonal lurgies are around. yep if we look at London last time - they were the worst hit intially, the first place to benefit from the restrictions, and they got the numbers down earlier than most other places - I'm hoping this is going to be the same for the NW this time around. Quote
Boby Brno Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Casino said: https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/18786675.coronavirus-bolton-new-approach-flu-vaccines-working/ Got a call from the surgery last Thursday. Booked for last Saturday at 8.20am. Done and out for 8.30. Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Van Tam just said - in response to whats the evidence for shutting pubs and bars Virus thrives on Human contact and the conditions that favour the spread of the virus are the 3 C's Closed spaces (poor ventilation) Crowded spaces Close Contact Plus D - the Duration you are likely to be in a venue with the above circumstances and V - the volume of noise in the venue - shouting and singing enables the virus to spread more easily. If you also consider that the age groups likley to frequent pubs and bars are those with the highest concentration of infected. I don't understand why folk cant see why the experts think that Pubs and bars indoors, tick all the boxes, unfortunate though it is. Edited October 12, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote
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Escobarp Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Van Tam just said - in response to whats the evidence for shutting pubs and bars Virus thrives on Human contact and the conditions that favour the spread of the virus are the 3 C's Closed spaces (poor ventilation) Crowded spaces Close Contact Plus D - the Duration you are likely to be in a venue with the above circumstances and V - the volume of noise in the venue - shouting and singing enables the virus to spread more easily. If you also consider that the age groups likley to frequent pubs and bars are those with the highest concentration of infceted. I don't understand why folk cant see why the experts think that Pubs and bars indoors, tick all the boxes, unfortuate though it is. Because it doesn’t suit their personal preferences. That’s it. Quote
Sweep Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: I don't understand why folk cant see why the experts think that Pubs and bars indoors, tick all the boxes, unfortuate though it is. ......because somebody once posted a graph on Twitter that showed only 4% of infections were from pubs, so they assumed this must and will always be the case, that only 4% of infections will ever be from pubs. Generally, because they're thick as pig shit. Quote
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