Coronavirus

[Sweep]

Just now, birch-chorley said:

If we haven’t got 5m people vaccinated by end of January then it’s way off what we’re they saying a few weeks back 

Get 5m vulnerable vaccinated, get us all into Tier 1 or 2 whilst the other 10m vulnerable are being sorted 

Surely those first 5m can be done by Mid February latest? 

You'd hope so, but they were supposed to be done by the end of December, and they're nowhere near that. Fingers crossed we can get a move on in January - I suspect we've got an awful lot riding on the Oxford/AZ vaccine, and that, apparently, is a lot easier to transport, store and administer, plus it's cheaper and it's produced here in the UK, so you would hope that would ensure we can really accelerate the vaccinations for the UK public

Let's just hope that we don't fuck up the logistics side of it..........

[Escobarp]

Fuck the vulnerable. Vaccinate the nhs staff  first and high tax payers and them London types and then work down the list. Get Hmrc to produce a list on a sliding scale and work down the list. It’s that easy and best way to protect the economy from total collapse. 
 

everyone else lock down until it’s your time. 

[Rudy]

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Fuck the vulnerable. Vaccinate the nhs staff  first and high tax payers and them London types and then work down the list. Get Hmrc to produce a list on a sliding scale and work down the list. It’s that easy and best way to protect the economy from total collapse. 
 

everyone else lock down until it’s your time. 

Keeping an eye out for your local politics pamphlet through my letterbox pal  

[birch-chorley]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

You'd hope so, but they were supposed to be done by the end of December, and they're nowhere near that. Fingers crossed we can get a move on in January - I suspect we've got an awful lot riding on the Oxford/AZ vaccine, and that, apparently, is a lot easier to transport, store and administer, plus it's cheaper and it's produced here in the UK, so you would hope that would ensure we can really accelerate the vaccinations for the UK public

Let's just hope that we don't fuck up the logistics side of it..........

just had a look, found this article which makes for interesting reading...

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833
 

Interesting detail on the complexity of the low temperature requirement, the freezer boxes that the vaccines are shipped from can last at least 10 days (30 days if you top up the dry ice every 5 days), you then get 3.5 days on them once you have put them in a normal freezer. Based on that, worst case you’ve got 2 weeks without needing a specialist freezer! 

With regards numbers, we should have had 10m vaccines (5m doses) in December, that was reduced to 4m (2m doses). Still feels like we are way behind with only 500k injections done after 2 weeks 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Rudy said:

Keeping an eye out for your local politics pamphlet through my letterbox pal  

It’s coming. Change is needed brother. Esco’s Monster Raving Loony party. Picture of youri supping a can of tennents super on my pamphlet. 

[Rudy]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

It’s coming. Change is needed brother. Esco’s Monster Raving Loony party. Picture of youri supping a can of tennents super on my pamphlet. 

I’ll see if Everton will lend us their open top bus so we can stick our slogan on it 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Rudy said:

I’ll see if Everton will lend us their open top bus so we can stick our slogan on it 

To be fair just get citehs as you won’t be needing it for a while and you will get discount 

[Rudy]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

To be fair just get citehs as you won’t be needing it for a while and you will get discount 

Stop it 

[Rudy]

47 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Anyway them hooker killers are getting restless in Dover 

They’ll all be bumming each other soon enough 

[Guest]

Just now, Rudy said:

They’ll all be bumming each other soon enough 

Wearing full PPE?

[Rudy]

1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Wearing full PPE?

One thing I know about lorry drivers is safety is their priority 

[Guest]

Just now, Rudy said:

One thing I know about lorry drivers is safety is their priority 

So few years back we had a driver called dawn who was previously Dave I knew of him/her but never met

she comes to office and tbf probably better looking than a few on here says “ I need to download my card” in a voice mixed with frank butcher & Sean dyche

truckers met some characters😀

[Sweep]

28 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

just had a look, found this article which makes for interesting reading...

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833
 

 

I'm amazed that there are 3.4M codgers over 80 years of age in the UK  - and if combine with 70+ then that's 9M people. 

The Government reckon around 25M in "priority" groups - that's almost a third of our population

[Guest]

If there’s going to be a lockdown any olds without health issues should be at the back

foot soldiers after front line & vulnerable groups 

[birch-chorley]

20 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'm amazed that there are 3.4M codgers over 80 years of age in the UK  - and if combine with 70+ then that's 9M people. 

The Government reckon around 25M in "priority" groups - that's almost a third of our population

Aye, but the over 80’s account for half of all the risk to the NHS, get those 3.4m done and half the risk to the NHS disappears, with it the chances of the NHS collapsing 

Once those 3.4m have had their second dose we should be able to operate with the country in Tier 1 or 2. Then we have another 12m people to get through in order to reduce the risk to the NHS by 99%. At which point it should be business as usual whilst the rest of the country gets sorted 

Edited December 23, 2020 by birch-chorley

[Rudy]

33 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

So few years back we had a driver called dawn who was previously Dave I knew of him/her but never met

she comes to office and tbf probably better looking than a few on here says “ I need to download my card” in a voice mixed with frank butcher & Sean dyche

truckers met some characters😀

Haha they’re a different breed when we used to get coaches at work to travel, overnight coach drivers were from an agency, they had some tales and were always selling something on the side

[Escobarp]

8 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

If there’s going to be a lockdown any olds without health issues should be at the back

foot soldiers after front line & vulnerable groups 

But the vulnerable aren’t really vulnerable if they stay in the house are they. That’s the problem 

[birch-chorley]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

But the vulnerable aren’t really vulnerable if they stay in the house are they. That’s the problem 

Correct 

Seems crazy to me that a vulnerable person in one part of the country is ‘allowed’ to mix with more people on Xmas day than a non vulnerable person in another part of the country 

The ask from the government should be for all vulnerable people to stay at home for Xmas no matter what part of the country they come from. Rather than this nonsense of ‘don’t hug your granny on Xmas day’ 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

But the vulnerable aren’t really vulnerable if they stay in the house are they. That’s the problem 

Well to the back then

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, birch-chorley said:

Correct 

Seems crazy to me that a vulnerable person in one part of the country is ‘allowed’ to mix with more people on Xmas day than a non vulnerable person in another part of the country 

The ask from the government should be for all vulnerable people to stay at home for Xmas no matter what part of the country they come from. Rather than this nonsense of ‘don’t hug your granny on Xmas day’ 

Yep. It should’ve been that way all along. Seriously if we had of locked them down then I suspect , might be wrong of course as I’m no expert, then we would hopefully have been in a much stronger position now both economically and health risk wise

[birch-chorley]

8 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yep. It should’ve been that way all along. Seriously if we had of locked them down then I suspect , might be wrong of course as I’m no expert, then we would hopefully have been in a much stronger position now both economically and health risk wise

I think locking people down might be going a bit far 

Asking people to observe restrictions is fair enough 

If you can ask non vulnerable people to stay at home for Xmas based on their postcode then you can ask vulnerable people in other areas to stay at home based on risk 

[Ani]

21 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yep. It should’ve been that way all along. Seriously if we had of locked them down then I suspect , might be wrong of course as I’m no expert, then we would hopefully have been in a much stronger position now both economically and health risk wise

The problem was that we were sending infected people back into care homes. 

[Escobarp]

7 minutes ago, Ani said:

The problem was that we were sending infected people back into care homes. 

Yep that was effectively murdering folk 

[emus wig]

How many clinically obese people do you think there are ? This part of the population is classed as vulnerable . I think the groups classed as vulnerable is larger than most people think .

[Zico]

15 minutes ago, emus wig said:

How many clinically obese people do you think there are ? This part of the population is classed as vulnerable . I think the groups classed as vulnerable is larger than most people think .

And most over 75 are vulnerable by default because their bodies can't cope if they catch it 

And many of them rely on a non vulnerable person to get by  

It's ok asking a couple of old dears to sit tight presuming one can get the shopping in then cook etc 

But plenty can't