Guest Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, kent_white said: It's 1.1 million tests every 2 weeks. It could be done - but the logistics and the money it would cost would be eye watering. And then you'd have to have to have the lab capacity to cope. I just don't think the need is there currently. Might have been worthwhile a few months ago - or if numbers start to ramp up again. But right now we need to be focussing on the patients who've had no treatment for the past 3 months. This would get in the way. Anyway - just my three penneth! I trust your judgement in these matters Focussing, or focusing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Booked in at Retreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I trust your judgement in these matters Focussing, or focusing? Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted June 26, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: Booked in at Retreat CNR? They didn't ask you to bring your own decking, did they? Mon got caught nicking it all the other week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Steejay said: CNR? They didn't ask you to bring your own decking, did they? Mon got caught nicking it all the other week. Aye, CNR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorWoland Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 hours ago, gonzo said: the idea of lockdown was to protect the NHS and stop it getting overloaded. We could fly back up to 500 deaths a day and it still wouldn’t get overloaded. I'm not so sure about that. The NHS held up at the peak and I suppose you could argue the Nightingale hospitals showed there was still capacity, of some sort, available. That however was only by an enormous reshuffling of entire hospitals, using non ICU staff, postponing vital non Covid medical procedures and diagnostics etc. We also asked some of the staff to work long hours in very challenging conditions. Work which over time takes its toll on people and which may make them prone to sickness themselves, not neccesarily covid though obviously that's a consideration. If there's 500 dying each day, there's a much larger number hospitalised and a lot of survivors (hopefully) that will be needing ongoing care. I appreciate we need to get back on the horse, but I'd be cautious about just how much load we can put on the finite resources of the NHS indefinitely and expect it to bear up. Especially as we move into flu season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, ProfessorWoland said: I'm not so sure about that. The NHS held up at the peak and I suppose you could argue the Nightingale hospitals showed there was still capacity, of some sort, available. That however was only by an enormous reshuffling of entire hospitals, using non ICU staff, postponing vital non Covid medical procedures and diagnostics etc. We also asked some of the staff to work long hours in very challenging conditions. Work which over time takes its toll on people and which may make them prone to sickness themselves, not neccesarily covid though obviously that's a consideration. If there's 500 dying each day, there's a much larger number hospitalised and a lot of survivors (hopefully) that will be needing ongoing care. I appreciate we need to get back on the horse, but I'd be cautious about just how much load we can put on the finite resources of the NHS indefinitely and expect it to bear up. Especially as we move into flu season. The bit about the staff is bang on. I imagine we'll see a lot of burnout and maybe PTSD in critical care staff. They've been flogged for the past couple of months. We'd respond a lot better to the next wave though. The infrastructure is in place. Everyone knows what to do and there would be far less confusion about what PPE staff need etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Just got the tube, loads of groups of yoofs, not one wearing masks, same on the train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 26, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Labour don't have access to the data that the government do, so if they're trying to put a policy in to law, it would have to follow the science and situation. Perhaps without the necessary information, the policy would have been ineffective, cumbersome and costly. As detailed by Kent. Nowt there to explain why hunt thought it good to write an article saying it was a good idea and then voted against it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: Just got the tube, loads of groups of yoofs, not one wearing masks, same on the train. How do you enforce it anyone who challenges will get blasted with abuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: How do you enforce it anyone who challenges will get blasted with abuse Send in the footy lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorWoland Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: How do you enforce it anyone who challenges will get blasted with abuse Convey the merits of your argument via the power and majesty of modern dance. Note you should practise this in advance, not many can improvise in the heat of the moment and still get the message across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: Send in the footy lads If you have a problem - if no one else can help - and if you can find them- maybe you can hire the footy lads😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said: If you have a problem - if no one else can help - and if you can find them- maybe you can hire the footy lads😀 Chelsea's last attempt at crowd management on tube didn't end well. Edited June 26, 2020 by green genie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 26, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Casino said: Nowt there to explain why hunt thought it good to write an article saying it was a good idea and then voted against it Perhaps reading the motion might enlighten you. It was described as too vague or something similar. Moreover Hunt is like a dog with a bone on health matters, asking plenty of pointed questions, so if he doesn't agree with with the motion then that's fine. I refer to Kent's post earlier; having the capacity doesn't mean it has to be used, if it's not deemed necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Scotland - 0 Northern Ireland - 1 Wales - 2 England - 183 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted June 26, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2020 Just now, Tombwfc said: Scotland - 0 Northern Ireland - 1 Wales - 2 England - 183 Number doesn't appear to be going down at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 26, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: Scotland - 0 Northern Ireland - 1 Wales - 2 England - 183 It's getting boring now This is why we scrapped the home internationals Can we arrange a south American friendly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Number doesn't appear to be going down at all Only 67 in hospital, so almost 2 3rds in care homes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Only 67 in hospital, so almost 2 3rds in care homes None in the community? whats the day by day v last week, our Peely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Went to the park for a walk with the kids earlier. Wandered over to the field to kick a ball around and across the other side of the field 4 or 5 women had set up three tables full of party bags. It was a football themed party and they’d also bought some large inflatable footballs and laid out some cones for the kids to play in. I overheard one say to a child who was with them “yes, there will be lots of children here soon to celebrate with the birthday boys. Then we can get the sweets out and the sports can begin”. I counted about 20 party bags. Add the parents and any siblings and there’d have been over 50 people there having birthday celebrations. Back to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 183 deaths, but the excess deaths are now on a weekly basis virtually now 0. It is rather confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 26, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 26, 2020 Not since the beginning of the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 26, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2020 How the fuck are care homes still getting Covid deaths? They should all be well clear by now surely? They’ve been on shielding lockdown for monthsz Something doesn’t add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Casino said: It's getting boring now This is why we scrapped the home internationals Can we arrange a south American friendly? I always remember the friendly v Chile......Ray Wilkins to the ball boy, caught live on the tv....."give us that faaaacking ball" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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