MancWanderer Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 14 and 15 and charged with murder Fucking Hell. Defies belief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 We need to get prison staff and ex cons going into schools. And dare I suggest, school trips to prisons. Whilst it’s incredibly sad that this young lad has died. 2 more lads have just about written off their lives as well. 3 sets of parents have just lost their sons in one act of stupidity. It’s crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 7, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Traf said: Nope, if they're both there at the time of the murder, they both get charged. This joint enterprise law is controversial. Remember seeing one woman's fight to challenge its use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 7, 2021 Moderators Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: This joint enterprise law is controversial. Remember seeing one woman's fight to challenge its use. Remember it being used in the case of some Scouse kid being killed If one person does the stabbing but five others are all in and up for seeing it happen then they should all be treated the same imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 8, 2021 Members Share Posted May 8, 2021 10 hours ago, Smiley said: We need to get prison staff and ex cons going into schools. And dare I suggest, school trips to prisons. Whilst it’s incredibly sad that this young lad has died. 2 more lads have just about written off their lives as well. 3 sets of parents have just lost their sons in one act of stupidity. It’s crazy. My Owd fella and a few lads were taken to strangeways at school. He said it scared the life out of him and put him on the straight and narrow before acting the goat turned into anything serious. 7 hours ago, Zico said: Remember it being used in the case of some Scouse kid being killed If one person does the stabbing but five others are all in and up for seeing it happen then they should all be treated the same imo Agreed, should discourage groups gathering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Zico said: Remember it being used in the case of some Scouse kid being killed If one person does the stabbing but five others are all in and up for seeing it happen then they should all be treated the same imo It was the guy in Warrington who was kicked to death by them 5 scallies. Anthony Newland? I'm sure the mum of one of them said her son was more a bystander, chronically short sighted etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Smiley said: We need to get prison staff and ex cons going into schools. And dare I suggest, school trips to prisons. Whilst it’s incredibly sad that this young lad has died. 2 more lads have just about written off their lives as well. 3 sets of parents have just lost their sons in one act of stupidity. It’s crazy. We used to do it years ago but it was stopped by psychologists who said that anybody who had attended our talks and got into trouble were more likely to commit suicide because of the fear of going to prison and experiencing what we had told them. We had a group of youths brought in from Glodwick who were bordering on criminality and gave them our talk (we had 2 cons helping us reliving their lives and crimes) on the way back to Glodwick a lad handed the youth worker a load of stolen credit cards, so it did work for some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 8, 2021 Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: It was the guy in Warrington who was kicked to death by them 5 scallies. Anthony Newland? I'm sure the mum of one of them said her son was more a bystander, chronically short sighted etc It was this one Guy was stabbed in a launderette though they didn't know who actually did the stabbing https://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2014-07-02/five-teenagers-jailed-for-liverpool-murder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Zico said: It was this one Guy was stabbed in a launderette though they didn't know who actually did the stabbing https://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2014-07-02/five-teenagers-jailed-for-liverpool-murder/ They knew. And if they ain't for giving up the one who did it, then they all deserve locking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 8, 2021 Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, mickbrown said: They knew. And if they ain't for giving up the one who did it, then they all deserve locking up. They all deserve it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Zico said: They all deserve it anyway Ultimate example of culpable homicide: Alabama Woman Who Was Shot While Pregnant Is Charged in Fetus’s Death - The New York Times (nytimes.com) Marshae Jones was five months pregnant when she was shot in the stomach. Her fetus did not survive the shooting, which the authorities say happened during a dispute with another woman. But on Wednesday, it was Ms. Jones who was charged in the death. Ms. Jones, 28, was charged with manslaughter and released from jail on Thursday after posting $50,000 bond, according to the authorities and the website of Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office in Alabama. The police have said she was culpable because she started the fight that led to the shooting and failed to remove herself from harm’s way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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