royal white Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Those bastard Jews starving the Palestinians 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 35 minutes ago, royal white said: Those bastard Jews starving the Palestinians 🙄 A bit of balance... https://news.sky.com/story/uk-aid-for-gaza-stuck-at-border-for-weeks-as-david-cameron-blames-israel-for-delays-13099418 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Winchester White said: A bit of balance... https://news.sky.com/story/uk-aid-for-gaza-stuck-at-border-for-weeks-as-david-cameron-blames-israel-for-delays-13099418 Im struggling to see the balance. It may as well be stuck on the moon if it’s only falling into Hamas hands when it goes into Palestine. As for the UN. Edited March 22 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 22 Moderators Share Posted March 22 169000 pounds (weight) of food how many folk does that feed do you reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, Casino said: 169000 pounds (weight) of food how many folk does that feed do you reckon Depends on if it's dried or not. That's in addition to the 189 trucks, which will be carrying many tonnes each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 39 minutes ago, royal white said: Im struggling to see the balance. It may as well be stuck on the moon if it’s only falling into Hamas hands when it goes into Palestine. As for the UN. The fact is, folk are starving and the fault lies with Hamas and Israel. Both are not acting in the interest of innocents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Casino said: 169000 pounds (weight) of food how many folk does that feed do you reckon Bad timing. Ramadan and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Winchester White said: The fact is, folk are starving and the fault lies with Hamas and Israel. Both are not acting in the interest of innocents. Maybe if Hamas stopped nicking it, Israel would let more through? Why would they continue to allow their terrorist enemy fuel itself at a cost to themselves? Hamas doesn’t bother looking after innocent folk whoever they are. Fuck em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Under international law, Israel has a legal obligation as the occupying state to ensure aid reaches the people who need it. We all know Hamas bear responsibility as well. But anyone thinking the blame doesn’t also lie with Israel is completely delusional. This has been going on for close to 6 months. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-defying-icj-ruling-to-prevent-genocide-by-failing-to-allow-adequate-humanitarian-aid-to-reach-gaza/#:~:text=“As the occupying power%2C under,of Gaza's population are met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 22 Moderators Share Posted March 22 3 hours ago, Winchester White said: the fault lies with Hamas and Israel. Both are not acting in the interest of innocents. sums up the entire war really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 45 minutes ago, Zico said: sums up the entire war really Aye And folk still lay all the blame on Hamas. Mind boggling really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 You know when Hamas steal these aid convoys. I'd imagine that's so that they can be seen to distribute the food to the Palestinians - rather than them being sat on a big pile of nosh and all stuffing their faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Meanwhile Israel have just stolen another massive piece of land in the West Bank. Using religion to justify their actions. They really are no different to Hamas. Israel has declared an area of the occupied Bank as state land - the biggest in decades, according to activists - which could now be used for settlement activity. The timing of the announcement, by far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, was significant, coinciding with the arrival in Israel of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken for talks on the Gaza war. Blinken recently declared settlements in the West Bank to be "inconsistent with international law" - a reversal of the US's position under the Trump administration. Smotrich - an arch-proponent of Jewish settlement activity in the West Bank - said 800 hectares (1,977 acres) of land in the northern Jordan Valley were now state-owned, meaning they can be developed. "While there are those in Israel and the world who seek to undermine our right over the Judea and Samaria [Biblical terms for the West Bank] area and the country in general, we are promoting settlement through hard work and in a strategic manner all over the country," he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, kent_white said: You know when Hamas steal these aid convoys. I'd imagine that's so that they can be seen to distribute the food to the Palestinians - rather than them being sat on a big pile of nosh and all stuffing their faces. It's the fuel and raw materials they steal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, kent_white said: You know when Hamas steal these aid convoys. I'd imagine that's so that they can be seen to distribute the food to the Palestinians - rather than them being sat on a big pile of nosh and all stuffing their faces. If they're giving it out, they're not stealing it. As I posted recently, estimates revealed in parliament are that they're taking up to 60% of aid. That for the minority. Given their track record for such things over the years I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. They could have used the various types of aid they've received over the years for the development of their society, food production etc, not digging up pipes for example and re-purposing them for missiles. They're scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 9 hours ago, royal white said: Those bastard Jews starving the Palestinians 🙄 Christ this guys Twitter is something else - how do you find these people mate? You had a scroll down? There's some proper mental anti-vax conspiracy stuff on there. Anway - a more balanced view on it all. Turns out it's not actually Hamas on top of these convoys. Who'd have thought Dr. Eli. David would be telling porkies ey . Palestinian clans and factions step in to protect Gaza aid, sources say | Reuters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, kent_white said: You know when Hamas steal these aid convoys. I'd imagine that's so that they can be seen to distribute the food to the Palestinians - rather than them being sat on a big pile of nosh and all stuffing their faces. They are taking a significant amount of materials.. And with everything that's happened, I'm sure there are plenty of angry grief strickin Palestinians that support them. It's why it's such a mess. But it's on the occupying state to ensure that aid reaches the civilians. Israel just aren't offering the protection these convoys needed. In the past week they've killed the officers tasked with aid delivery in a home strike. Obviously their whole family has been massacred as well. The fact that Israel aren't doing enough to secure safe passage is echoed by all the aid agencies out there. The UN as well. And the US. There is really no denying it. Let's hope the American port does it's job. But as you say, serious medical support is needed for these people now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 18 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Christ this guys Twitter is something else - how do you find these people mate? You had a scroll down? There's some proper mental anti-vax conspiracy stuff on there. Anway - a more balanced view on it all. Turns out it's not actually Hamas on top of these convoys. Who'd have thought Dr. Eli. David would be telling porkies ey . Palestinian clans and factions step in to protect Gaza aid, sources say | Reuters You do know that all of that report relies on Hamas ‘sources’ Are you happy to accept Hamas sources as balance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: You do know that all of that report relies on Hamas ‘sources’ Are you happy to accept Hamas sources as balance? Clearly. ABI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 10 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: You do know that all of that report relies on Hamas ‘sources’ Are you happy to accept Hamas sources as balance? Not at all 👍 You've got that one a bit wrong though - as it relies on evidence from other Palestinian officials as well as Hamas. A Twitter video (with a highly biased post) of people with guns on top of an aid convoy is not reliable evidence that Hamas are occupying that truck. As shown. My views on this are pretty clear. Hamas and Israel bear equal responsibility. That viewpoint doesn't come from Hamas. There are many on the groud aid agencies, international organisations and allies of Israel that are critical of Israel's approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, London Wanderer said: Not at all 👍 You've got that one a bit wrong though - as it relies on evidence from other Palestinian officials as well as Hamas. A Twitter video (with a highly biased post) of people with guns on top of an aid convoy is not reliable evidence that Hamas are occupying that truck. As shown. My views on this are pretty clear. Hamas and Israel bear equal responsibility. That viewpoint doesn't come from Hamas. There are many on the groud aid agencies, international organisations and allies of Israel that are critical of Israel's approach. Palestinian Officials are Hamas. They control the country. The Twitter guy is obviously pro Israel. People will make their own minds up regarding his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Palestinian Officials are Hamas. They control the country. The Twitter guy is obviously pro Israel. People will make their own minds up regarding his post. So Fatah (Hamas' secular political rival) are now Hamas.... Okay then.... getting a bit confusing all this. Armed Palestinians look to be supporting these aid convoys. Why else would Hamas be warning against it? Palestinians who work with Israel on Gaza aid are collaborators, says Hamas (telegraph.co.uk) People will make their own minds up 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: So Fatah (Hamas' secular political rival) are now Hamas.... Okay then.... getting a bit confusing all this. Armed Palestinians look to be supporting these aid convoys. Why else would Hamas be warning against it? Palestinians who work with Israel on Gaza aid are collaborators, says Hamas (telegraph.co.uk) People will make their own minds up 😉 From your link. ‘Fatah - have stepped in to help provide security for the aid convoys, according to the Palestinian officials and Hamas sources.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: From your link. ‘Fatah - have stepped in to help provide security for the aid convoys, according to the Palestinian officials and Hamas sources.’ Also from numerous other sources “Hamas governed Palestinian police” Doesnt really matter who’s escorting it the point is it’s being nicked or sold on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 25 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: From your link. ‘Fatah - have stepped in to help provide security for the aid convoys, according to the Palestinian officials and Hamas sources.’ If Hamas are releasing statements warning against people supporting Israeli aid convoys, then clearly some have been doing so. Which shows, in my antisemitic/terrorist sympathiser opinion, that the video is not reliable evidence of Hamas being on those trucks. Not pretending for a second that Hamas are giving the aid to all that need it. But let's not also pretend that Israel have been fulfilling their role to provide to those who need it. It's obvious they could do much more but are choosing not to. A Palestinian offical source is just as dubious as an Israeli government/military source. Surely the latest land grab in West Bank is evidence of that? Could civil war break out in Gaza? Major clan inside strip 'declares Hamas members are legitimate targets' after its leader 'was assassinated by the terror group' for allegedly stealing humanitarian aid | Daily Mail Online Edited March 22 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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