Meanwhile in Israel

[gonzo]

12 hours ago, Nowack said:

The fighting has been going on for over 75 years, I cannot see it concluding anytime soon. 

They said that about Northern Ireland.

The Yanks sorted that out too

[Dimron]

12 hours ago, royal white said:

Sounds like a plan 

The Israelis using US weapons has made Gaza uninhabitable. The population have to go somewhere and neighbouring countries are the obvious choice, I heard the mention of "temporarily" in one newscast which I feel should be the case.

Private enterprise will relieve the cost burden on the guilty parties, in my mind the US and Israel should foot the bill 100% for such a disproportionate act of destruction.

However on the positive side, there will be construction jobs for the Palestinians and future employment in whatever towns and cities which might be created.

Creating an affluent society is the best way to get rid of Hamas.

[boltonboris]

I'm struggling a bit with this "we're taking over the Gaza strip and making it a property development" thing...

 

Firstly, it's illegal - Not that laws mwan much to him. He's a sex offender, fraudster and has also been on record saying "I could shoot someone dead on 5th avenue and they wouldn't care" (They; being his 'fans' - A politician having fans. It's crackers)

 

Secondly, I'd imagine those people being displaced, cleansed, removed, whatever you wish to call it, would not be too happy about it and you'd be spreading discontent and terrorism to Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Gaza-Lago and it would be a powder keg - The Israeli's want that. They want the war to continue and will have it anywhere (game fvckers!)

 

Thirdly, how can a country in 2025 claim right to it. How can he just say "we're having that"? Who gave it him?  - I know his fanboys will think he's dead cool and can do what he wants, nobody's gonna stop him.. Is that a good thing? Is it a good thing to have such a moronic, egomaniacal, narcissistic, predator having such unchecked power? What is he going to do if people just say "fuck off you nonce, you can't do that"? What then?

 

The Trumpalumpas and the Muskaqueers (yep, I'm going with it) have gone from "Give him the Nobel Peace Prize" to "Lol and what are you gonna do about it" in what? A week?

 

What a fuckin world

[boltonboris]

This man could go and bum someones son in front of them and they'd go "Jeez Donald, you look like a great shag"

[royal white]

26 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

I'm struggling a bit with this "we're taking over the Gaza strip and making it a property development" thing...

 

Firstly, it's illegal - Not that laws mwan much to him. He's a sex offender, fraudster and has also been on record saying "I could shoot someone dead on 5th avenue and they wouldn't care" (They; being his 'fans' - A politician having fans. It's crackers)

 

Secondly, I'd imagine those people being displaced, cleansed, removed, whatever you wish to call it, would not be too happy about it and you'd be spreading discontent and terrorism to Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Gaza-Lago and it would be a powder keg - The Israeli's want that. They want the war to continue and will have it anywhere (game fvckers!)

 

Thirdly, how can a country in 2025 claim right to it. How can he just say "we're having that"? Who gave it him?  - I know his fanboys will think he's dead cool and can do what he wants, nobody's gonna stop him.. Is that a good thing? Is it a good thing to have such a moronic, egomaniacal, narcissistic, predator having such unchecked power? What is he going to do if people just say "fuck off you nonce, you can't do that"? What then?

 

The Trumpalumpas and the Muskaqueers (yep, I'm going with it) have gone from "Give him the Nobel Peace Prize" to "Lol and what are you gonna do about it" in what? A week?

 

What a fuckin world

Do you think they would rather live in a dust bowl or relocate? What’s makes you think they are different from the many millions of refugees around the world who flee their homeland in search of a better home? 

[Bertie]

12 minutes ago, royal white said:

Do you think they would rather live in a dust bowl or relocate? What’s makes you think they are different from the many millions of refugees around the world who flee their homeland in search of a better home? 

Well, they had a home but Israel has just bombed the shit out of it.

I think they’d rather rebuild their homes on their land. I know I would.

And no, I’m not a Hamas apologist.  Evil ideology.

Two state solution - the only solution.

[gonzo]

9 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Well, they had a home but Israel has just bombed the shit out of it.

I think they’d rather rebuild their homes on their land. I know I would.

And no, I’m not a Hamas apologist.  Evil ideology.

Two state solution - the only solution.

Who better to rebuild it than the yanks?

 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Bertie said:

Well, they had a home but Israel has just bombed the shit out of it.

I think they’d rather rebuild their homes on their land. I know I would.

And no, I’m not a Hamas apologist.  Evil ideology.

Two state solution - the only solution.

Build with what? Do you think the local are capable of fully rebuilding Gaza? 

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

Build with what? Do you think the local are capable of fully rebuilding Gaza? 

Who do you think built it in the first place?

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Who do you think built it in the first place?

Egyptians. 

[Dimron]

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

Build with what? Do you think the local are capable of fully rebuilding Gaza? 

Yes, with guidance from experienced engineers brought in from the outside with funding from somewhere... building is all about utilising local resources wherever you can.

Give employment which leads to self esteem and makes them think about positive stuff rather than killing

[Cheese]

15 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Who better to rebuild it than the yanks?

Palestinians?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

The Israelis using US weapons has made Gaza uninhabitable. The population have to go somewhere and neighbouring countries are the obvious choice, I heard the mention of "temporarily" in one newscast which I feel should be the case.

Private enterprise will relieve the cost burden on the guilty parties, in my mind the US and Israel should foot the bill 100% for such a disproportionate act of destruction.

However on the positive side, there will be construction jobs for the Palestinians and future employment in whatever towns and cities which might be created.

Creating an affluent society is the best way to get rid of Hamas.

Doesn't matter who makes the weapons. 

Just like Hamas making their own, through destruction of new infrastructure from aid relief previously. 

If they hadn't constantly launched them into Israel for years and years, then Gaza wouldn't have been hit.

No doubt more aid will be piled into the place from the western world, and some will be siphoned off again. 

Hamas could chose to be peaceful, and use the aid to build and create an affluent society- but they won't. Their cause isn’t the primarily the wellbeing of ordinary Gazans, but the destruction of Israel.

Repeat, rinse, repeat.. ad nauseum.

[gonzo]

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Palestinians?

Good luck with that

[royal white]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Good luck with that

The mon lives in cuckoo land 

[boltonboris]

54 minutes ago, royal white said:

Do you think they would rather live in a dust bowl or relocate? What’s makes you think they are different from the many millions of refugees around the world who flee their homeland in search of a better home? 

The fact that hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of Palestinians are literally walking home suggests they would rather make a fist of it themselves

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Good luck with that

Why not?

[royal white]

1 minute ago, boltonboris said:

The fact that hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of Palestinians are literally walking home suggests they would rather make a fist of it themselves

There’s literally thousands at borders pleading to be let in neighbouring countries. Many of those numbers are elderly and kids. It’s a nice fairy tale but sometimes reality needs to take over.

[royal white]

18 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Yes, with guidance from experienced engineers brought in from the outside with funding from somewhere... building is all about utilising local resources wherever you can.

Give employment which leads to self esteem and makes them think about positive stuff rather than killing

Trump mentioned working with development teams from around the world. Do you think other countries will invest billions over a few decades with no return at the end of it?

[boltonboris]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

There’s literally thousands at borders pleading to be let in neighbouring countries. Many of those numbers are elderly and kids. It’s a nice fairy tale but sometimes reality needs to take over.

I'm not surprised there's some wanting to get into neighbouring countries. They've had all of shit bombed to smitherines. Give them an opportunity to go and rebuild their own lives on their own and I reckon a hell of a lot more would take it, than wouldn't.

Perhaps it was the plan all along. Perhaps the USA and Israel were in cahoots and saw a retail opportunity in the region. All it took was a spark and they could reduce the place to rubble and take it for themselves. Build Dubai MKII. Pretty evil really, but again, it comes down to whatever Donald J Trump does will have the backing of people. He could his owns people's houses to rubble and they'd seemingly thank and applaud him

[boltonboris]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

Trump mentioned working with development teams from around the world. Do you think other countries will invest billions over a few decades with no return at the end of it?

Well no, but if you deliberately drove your car through the front of your next door neighbours house, you should pay for it, rather than expect the whole street to chip in

[little whitt]

32 minutes ago, royal white said:

Egyptians. 

Eye get them in 

did ok with Them  

Pyramid Things 

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

I'm not surprised there's some wanting to get into neighbouring countries. They've had all of shit bombed to smitherines. Give them an opportunity to go and rebuild their own lives on their own and I reckon a hell of a lot more would take it, than wouldn't.

Perhaps it was the plan all along. Perhaps the USA and Israel were in cahoots and saw a retail opportunity in the region. All it took was a spark and they could reduce the place to rubble and take it for themselves. Build Dubai MKII. Pretty evil really, but again, it comes down to whatever Donald J Trump does will have the backing of people. He could his owns people's houses to rubble and they'd seemingly thank and applaud him

Do you Honeslty think Palestinians are capable of rebuilding Gaza alone. If you do I think you’re away with the fairies. 

 

10 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

Well no, but if you deliberately drove your car through the front of your next door neighbours house, you should pay for it, rather than expect the whole street to chip in

Is that your way of saying Israel should pay for it? 

[boltonboris]

Just now, royal white said:

Do you Honeslty think Palestinians are capable of rebuilding Gaza alone. If you do I think you’re away with the fairies. 

 

Is that your way of saying Israel should pay for it? 

Israel, America, UK even. Anybody who contributed to the obliteration of the country should pay for it to be rebuilt. 

 

USA have said they're paying for it anyway, so what's the issue? All they have to is give it back to the people they displaced

[royal white]

1 minute ago, boltonboris said:

Israel, America, UK even. Anybody who contributed to the obliteration of the country should pay for it to be rebuilt. 

 

USA have said they're paying for it anyway, so what's the issue? All they have to is give it back to the people they displaced

We have done that in the past but there was a return on investment. What’s the ROI here?