Meanwhile in Israel

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, Zico said:

Would you do it during a ceasefire like Israel just did, when no one was firing at them? 

 

From @Boby Brno earlier post 

 

The IDF struck a Hamas military site in northern Gaza overnight where preparations were being made to fire projectiles at Israeli territory.

In addition, the Israeli Navy struck several vessels in the coastal area of Gaza. These vessels were intended to be used for terrorist activities by Hamas and the Islamic Jihad.”

Edited March 20, 2025 by royal white

[London Wanderer]

400 dead

400

 And folk are still defending them

No worse than Hamas

 

[Zico]

17 minutes ago, royal white said:

From @Boby Brno earlier post 

 

The IDF struck a Hamas military site in northern Gaza overnight where preparations were being made to fire projectiles at Israeli territory.

In addition, the Israeli Navy struck several vessels in the coastal area of Gaza. These vessels were intended to be used for terrorist activities by Hamas and the Islamic Jihad.”

Yep, thought so

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

400 dead

400

 And folk are still defending them

No worse than Hamas

 

All 400 were Hamas and clearly preparing to fire projectiles at Israeli territory 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

33 minutes ago, Zico said:

Would you do it during a ceasefire like Israel just did, when no one was firing at them? 

 

That depends upon the whole picture.

As detailed if credible evidence of an act of aggression was available, then you would act first.

Moreover, both sides have accused the other of breaching the agreement, and the IDF didn't deliver bodies not of the people they were supposed to be repatriating. 

A act clearly meant as a means of having their cake and eating it.

[BobyBrno]

28 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

400 dead

400

 And folk are still defending them

No worse than Hamas

 

When you quote these figures, can you explain that its figures provided by Hamas.

This is how the BBC reported it. It was they who underlined it and put it in bold letters. 
Don’t spread Hamas propaganda without verification.

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

When you quote these figures, can you explain that its figures provided by Hamas.

This is how the BBC reported it. It was they who underlined it and put it in bold letters. 
Don’t spread Hamas propaganda without verification.

It's an argument you've used consistently

No doubt it's difficult to get accurate data. But it's hardly a North Korea no go zone where others aren't reporting.

Interestingly the research actually points to the death toll being an underestimate. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjvl4klzweo#:~:text=Gaza war death toll could be significantly higher%2C researchers say,-Reuters&text=The Palestinian death toll from,The Lancet medical journal suggests.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext

You're going to have to do better than that if you keep trying to defend Israel. 

[BobyBrno]

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

It's an argument you've used consistently

No doubt it's difficult to get accurate data. But it's hardly a North Korea no go zone where others aren't reporting.

Interestingly the research actually points to the death toll being an underestimate. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjvl4klzweo#:~:text=Gaza war death toll could be significantly higher%2C researchers say,-Reuters&text=The Palestinian death toll from,The Lancet medical journal suggests.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext

You're going to have to do better than that if you keep trying to defend Israel. 

I’d rather defend Israel than be a propaganda source for Hamas. We can all post stuff to back up our claims. I and our government are on the side of Israel in their fight against the terrorists. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-the-west-finally-seeing-through-hamass-lies/

Edited March 20, 2025 by BobyBrno

[Not in Crawley]

3 hours ago, royal white said:

Life experiences have made me 100% sure what I would do, it’s also the reason why others in conflicts around the world (not just Isreal) are doing this on a regular basis. 
 

No problem if you don’t want to give a wider context, probably because you don’t have one and are just papping your usual shit. Maybe it’s in a book you’ve read. Care to share the title? 

And that is why you always fall on the wrong side of not only history, but of the fundamentals of common body politic.

When someone mocks someone else for reading and studying, then you know you are down the populist rabbit hole. Weirdly very communist in its narrative.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

And that is why you always fall on the wrong side of not only history, but of the fundamentals of common body politic.

When someone mocks someone else for reading and studying, then you know you are down the populist rabbit hole. Weirdly very communist in its narrative.

We are not talking about history, we are talking about attacks that took place during  the last week. Now it’s quite clear you don’t have a clue what it would be like to be in either an Israeli soldiers Shoes or a Hamas soldiers shoes. I asked what book you may have read that would maybe help give you an insight but you’ve seen that as being a mocking. 
 

Nice try to try and twist things but it’s yet another fail on your behalf. 

[Winchester White]

I am sure I read that this latest bombing and escalation was weeks in the planning according to someone from the Israeli cabinet.

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I am sure I read that this latest bombing and escalation was weeks in the planning according to someone from the Israeli cabinet.

The Don has this all under control

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

I’d rather defend Israel than be a propaganda source for Hamas. We can all post stuff to back up our claims. I and our government are on the side of Israel in their fight against the terrorists. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-the-west-finally-seeing-through-hamass-lies/

“Propaganda source for Hamas”

Get a bloody grip 😂 That the best you can do?

 I’m criticising both as being as bad as each other. The evidence shows the death toll is brutally high. 

it’s indefensible. Keep trying though

[BobyBrno]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

“Propaganda source for Hamas”

Get a bloody grip 😂 That the best you can do?

 I’m criticising both as being as bad as each other. The evidence shows the death toll is brutally high. 

it’s indefensible. Keep trying though

Ok. Going back to your post that I quoted. How many of the alleged 400 killed were terrorists? 

[London Wanderer]

9 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Ok. Going back to your post that I quoted. How many of the alleged 400 killed were terrorists? 

 How many ? 

[royal white]

16 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 How many ? 

340 

[London Wanderer]

15 minutes ago, royal white said:

340 

Where’s that number from?

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Where’s that number from?

Some guy on Twitter just posted it. 
 

If we are believing Hamas then we might as well believe random blokes on Twitter  hey. 

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, Ani said:

But do you accept that the Israeli attacks are killing thousands of people who are nothing to do with Hamas ? I have no problem with Hamas being wiped out but IMO the collateral damage we are seeing now is too scatter gun.  I had no problem when they exploded all the pagers, thought it was incredibly clever. 

I do, yes. Highly regrettable but the cowards hide behind them as you well know.

I would say it is anything but 'scatter gun'. It is targeted to wipe out Hamas leaders and I assume that you will have seen the list of the most recently dispatched which confirms this. Strut now Donatello.

If only we could get them to stop hiding behind women and children, the infirm, hospitals or in religious edifices. Any ideas?

Edited March 20, 2025 by bolty58

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, Sweep said:

Agreed, maybe we should move them elsewhere, to a safer area. Loads of room in the US and Australia, then they could live in relative safety, and not worry about their neighbours 😉

Genius. Go on then matey. Formulate a realistic and constructive plan and get it posted for us all to consider.

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, Ani said:

As long as The Don promises to make a proper resort of the place. 

Some people will swallow anything.

He's a master is The Don.

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, royal white said:

I’m not sure what you’re on about as per usual. What has that got to do with what I have been saying? 

It must have been a Thursday evening bender this week.

[bolty58]

7 hours ago, Zico said:

more of them exploding pagers

we've seen in the past when Israel, or other countries, want to target and take out specific groups and individuals, they can

they've been flattening gaza and killing 10s of 000s of innocents in process for nearly 18 months

and Hamas are apparently still here

maybe it's time to consider a different approach

but let's face it

it's not just Hamas that Israel want to destroy and that's always been the case, and is the reason whty Hamas exist in the first place

Yep. Hezbollah, the PLF and various other savage splinter groups. Well spotted.

[bolty58]

7 hours ago, royal white said:

Give me the wider context or the name of the book that you’ve read regarding firing back at an enemy who’s firing at you, regardless of the building they’re in.  👍

Maybe he meant suppositories?

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, Zico said:

Yep, thought so

Eh? You expect Israel to sit back and allow Hamas make their attack preparations? WTF?