I realise some of you may have zero interest in this which is fair enough but from time to time I like to have a snoop on OppositionWays out of curiosity. Thought it was worth compiling some together which I'll do in this thread whenever I get chance. 

Seems like Lincoln have some pretty level headed fans but then one or two absolutely bitter fuckers. 

Pick of the bunch includes:

THE BITTER

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How about 10 points deducted for every £million of debt a club has?
Wonder just how low these perennial cheats would drop?

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Red Wimp said:

Bolton stayed in Lincoln last night. Not leaving much to chance.

No that was so they could rack up extra debt.

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Surely we can't lose to these cheats?
Why are they not on multiple minus points?

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I'd rather be us than them. How long do they have to pay their debt?

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The simple truth is, as much as the away fans won't want to admit it, we lost to one of those vile clubs tonight. One of those that has spent beyond their means, and clearly continues to do so.

 

THE PRAISE

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Good game. Shit result.
By the standards of last season Bolton should be pushing for promotion. But then that was last season.

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Beaten by the better team. Good to see a big away following.

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FT. Good game. Credit to Bolton - they did enough to control the game throughout, although we had some bright moments, especially in the first half. They also scored at exactly the right time and managed the game out. 

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Bolton also look like a really good side who should be in the top half of the table.

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I have backed Bolton to win the league as I think they are a decent team. They looked like a very settled team that are used to winning.

Taken from https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/match-thread-lincoln-city-v-bolton-wanderers.117675/page-25 

14 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

I am you don’t accidentally pull someone’s hair it’s not coming together it’s a pen 

So is pulling a shirt or pulling an arm but they never give them unless its virtual assault, hair is just the fashionable one currently so the refs/VAR have to be seen to be keeping up with the times, it will die out like penalising shirt pulls has.

33 minutes ago, freds dad said:

When the game stopped for penalty check I thought it was for them and I’d missed something when their cross went into our box like everyone around me did. 
 

Still think that a red card is ridiculous though.

I’d actually spotted it as it happened because we were on that side of the stadium and I saw his head whip back (whip is a bit exaggerated). It’s only because I saw what happened when Calvert-Lewis had his hair pulled v United that I knew it was going to get pulled back. I was saying to the lads as they were breaking away that it doesn’t matter because it’s coming back for a penalty - as much as it was great in the end for us, it’s a ridiculous way to watch football.

24 minutes ago, Ani said:

Yes he did miss it, if he ‘thought’ he saw it he would have flagged after the ball went in, this means he thought there was a foul, which VAR would have to review. It changes the emphasis on clean and obvious.

The penalty call is a nonsense rule, but that is not a fault of VAR. 

 

I might be completely wrong on this, but I don’t think the linesman is meant to flag retrospectively for a foul, only for offsides once the phase of play is over. In which case, I don’t think we can say that either of them ‘missed it’ as such.

6 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

For me (and I respect your opinion, its just mine) is I don't care whether it corrected mistakes or not, my viewpoint is for the game as a whole.  If that sounds holier than thou its not meant to - but I'm not talking about our games, its all games.

The spectacle, the entertainment, the feeling we get watching BWFC or the Prem or the world cup.

VAR spoils it and I'll take the ref missing some stuff (better than VAR disallowing so many goals for nothing), for and against us. I still say he blows for that foul without the safety blanket of VAR.  And the pen that was never a pen - VAR can take a running jump if its giving pens for that, especially bearing in mind Stockport could well have scored at the other end before they even announced they were checking for a pen, for which team nobody knew!  Its just a farce for me.

Fair points on your view, I hate how VAR has been implemented compared to what it was meant to be. ‘A good idea badly implemented. 
 

I say you are wrong on the free kick - linesman are rated on decisions they get right or wrong , by not flagging after ball goes in he has missed it - That will get him downgraded 

The penalty is a stonewall penalty. The rule is 100% stupid and wrong but that is not VARs fault. It has gone from an off the ball assault to a gentle reach out. IMO Cogley does the same challenge if it was Gale over there and as he released immediately unlikely to be a foul, red card and penalties based on hair style is nonsense. 

I celebrated wildly when each of our goals went in.  It was only the day after that I realised I'd not considered VAR might have intervened after any of them.

7 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I might be completely wrong on this, but I don’t think the linesman is meant to flag retrospectively for a foul, only for offsides once the phase of play is over. In which case, I don’t think we can say that either of them ‘missed it’ as such.

I was not 100% but have ploughed ahead using this as basis for my point so do not tell @Johnnyrotten 😂😂

This tickled me, from a Stockport fan re VAR: "genuinely hope we don't ever get promoted to the Premier League "

Sleep easy brother...

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Fair points on your view, I hate how VAR has been implemented compared to what it was meant to be. ‘A good idea badly implemented. 
 

I say you are wrong on the free kick - linesman are rated on decisions they get right or wrong , by not flagging after ball goes in he has missed it - That will get him downgraded 

The penalty is a stonewall penalty. The rule is 100% stupid and wrong but that is not VARs fault. It has gone from an off the ball assault to a gentle reach out. IMO Cogley does the same challenge if it was Gale over there and as he released immediately unlikely to be a foul, red card and penalties based on hair style is nonsense. 

They also have buttons on their flagsticks, and microphones & earpieces. They dop not have to visibly wave the flag to tell the ref he thought there was something in it. I bet I can count on one hand the numbver of times a lino has waved for a foul this season, with or without VAR.

Also worth noting that as soon as the ball goes in, the ref is telling the Bolton players to calm down, as he knows it will be looked at.

100% with no VAR, the whistle goes as soon as Johnston hits the ground.

Next seasons League 1, no way Stockport even make the playoffs. The competition will be too strong. 

The core of their team this season was a mix of older professionals losing their legs, loans and players who'll get sold in about 2 months.

Take them away and there isn't much. 

14 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

Next seasons League 1, no way Stockport even make the playoffs. The competition will be too strong. 

The core of their team this season was a mix of older professionals losing their legs, loans and players who'll get sold in about 2 months.

Take them away and there isn't much. 

I think this viewpoint was aired on here last season too.  They'd lost Olaofe, Barry, Horsfall to Blackpool, Will Collar.

IMO folk underestimated how good their manager is, and how many decent L1 players they have.

Not our concern now, but they aren't built on sand and have stability unlike the likes of Huddersfield and few others.

23 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

Next seasons League 1, no way Stockport even make the playoffs. The competition will be too strong. 

The core of their team this season was a mix of older professionals losing their legs, loans and players who'll get sold in about 2 months.

Take them away and there isn't much. 

Sidibeh & Barrie won't be there.. Wooton is 29, so think his importance to Stockport would outweigh whatever fee they could get for him, so unless someone like Huddersfield flash some cash, which could happen, I would expect him to stay.

I'd take Sidibeh.. One that got away

Oh, I also don't think Challinor will be there. He'll get a good offer

20 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

I’d take Sidibeh.. One that got away

With the way he stomped off down the tunnel after being taken off? Not for me. 

34 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I think this viewpoint was aired on here last season too.  They'd lost Olaofe, Barry, Horsfall to Blackpool, Will Collar.

IMO folk underestimated how good their manager is, and how many decent L1 players they have.

Not our concern now, but they aren't built on sand and have stability unlike the likes of Huddersfield and few others.

Their biggest loss would be the manager , if the likes of Huddersfield or low end Championships are not looking at him it would be strange. 

anyone for a wigan view

39 minutes ago, L/H White said:

anyone for a wigan view

Yeah do it

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Come on Stockport !!!!

 

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Looks like a poor attendance

 

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And Bolton take the lead 

 

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Get in Stockport

 

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Damned VAR

 

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Bloody poor decision. Stockport not allowed to win

 

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Fuck me. Yet another shit var decision ruining a game of football. This concept is a disgrace to the sport and ruining it. I’m done. Off out to the garden.

agreed

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How can a competition that has 552 games throughout the season plus 4 playoff games without the benefit/curse of VAR suddenly have it available for the final game of the season ????

 

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It was the correct decision but you make a very valid point.

 

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Based on the first 45mins , these two teams have a lot more quality that us showing a lot more skill and much slicker.

 

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That's down to the poor following for Stockport. Bolton end is full.

 

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At least we don't have to play the six fingered inbreds next season

 

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I think Bowton have had many lucky wins with bounces and decision all season.
Hopefully next season their luck will have run out and it will be more. L s than W s. next season

 

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48 thousand on there today.

 

Beautiful 😁

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Horwich must be the luckiest club in the land. The EFL constantly turned a blind eye on deadlines etc. Gave them no punishment for not turning up for games. They get taken over by a moneybags consortium who have constantly financed their promotion push. This season they finish fifth and creep into the play offs by one point. They have had numerous decisions go for them all season with so many late goals. Even today they scored from an own goal plus an injury time penalty and had the luxury of playing against ten men.
So sixth place promoted yesterday and fifth place promoted today. What a farce.

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Was saying similar to my lad earlier on.
They got so much help and leniency compared to us, and I can tell you for a fact that they were in FAR worse a mess than us. To the extent that bailiffs removed stock from their club shop because they owed Macron 250k. TV screens were removed from the stadium and hotel bar areas, by the TV rental companies. They literally just ignored bills and invoices that needed paying. Blatantly and ignorantly so.

But they were helped so much more because they are one of the football league 'Founder Clubs'. A founder club couldnt be allowed to fold...oh no. But little old Wigan Athletic, they didnt give a damn about us.

From what Ive heard, getting promoted this season has put them around 30 mil in debt. Theyve thrown money and gambled on getting promoted, and have done it...just. Makes you wonder whats the best way to do it...like they've done it, or by being tight and frugal like we are as a club? Because Bolton have made a total mockery of it all by getting promoted today. They'll obviously get money for going up and will then get bigger attendances next season.

It might be nice to have a break from them for a season or so anyway. The sheer hatred for all things Wigan which we witnessed as we walked amongst them after the game there last season...none of us had colours on and there were women in their 50s and older calling Wigan and Wiganers every foul and offensive name under the sun. Truly, they hate us. So to give everyone a break from that, I'm glad we wont be playing them next season. Horrible club, horrible bunch.

 

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Bolton one of the best teams simple as that we are miles away from that level

 

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And yet, the form table following Caldwell's appointment (excepting the last couple of games) would show differently.

 

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Thi needs thee eyes checking....those six fingered were bang average all season & with a bit of luck will be back down into league 1 the following season.

 

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Stay off the dring jock. They were miles better than us. No chance they will come back down.

 

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For the third time, since mid Feb, the form table shows us we were a better side - or at least picked up more points in that period - than them.

 

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If & it's a big if....if we'd played them when GC took over we'd have given them a far better game, we wouldn't have sat back shitting ourselves like Lowe had us at the Shitbock, or at home at the DW where we were promised by the man himself, Mr Lowe that the team would repay the fans but unfortunately he bottled it again....GC wouldn't have bottled it & would have had the team up for it on both occasions...so yes we'd have been the better side as Bolton were a BANG AVERAGE side.....

 

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They were only better than us (like cardiff) due to our manager at the time playing  scared tactics.

 

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Bolton would beat us no problem it doesn't matter who the manager would be Lowey, Cladwell etc it's down to the players and their "couldn't care less" attitude, half of last seasons squad weren't good enough anyway to compete with the likes of Bolton.

We all wanted Bolton to fail in the play offs but don't kid yourselves that they are shit and we would have beaten them due to Cladwell being in charge.

Get real, Cladwell kept us up but we also struggled in a good few games I have no doubts that Lowey would have done the same but still kept us up.

Blame the players.

 

The 2 longer posts in bold are simply beautiful 

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The 2 longer posts in bold are simply beautiful 

aye, already dissected them after they were posted the other day 

stupid cunts

22 hours ago, boltonboris said:

Aye the argument of “we normally get away with grabbing, pulling and clipping heels” argument can fuck off. 
 

As a general product, I vehemently dislike VAR and I think the red card was harsh, but Cogley’s mind went wandering and he lost his composure for a split second. Not sure he’s deliberately going for his hair. 
 

The disallowed goal was 100% the correct decision. It’s a foul all day of the week. The fact the referee missed it was a farce. Since when does a foul have to be deliberate?! If that’s the case, 99% of penalties and freekicka should not be awarded. Deliberate or not, a foul is a foul and that WAS a fuckin foul. Without it, he wouldn’t have scored 

 

I think the difference between that and most other penalties/free-kicks when it comes to being deliberate, is that there is usually some attempt to engage with the opposing player or the ball. Sidibeh was just running and happened to cross paths with GJ. 

I'm fine with it being a foul and I'm fine with it not being depending on what the referee sees on the field. For me it doesn't fall into the bracket of Thierry Henry vs Ireland style cheating that's usually pointed to when people are arguing for VAR.

I don't think it impacted the end result, but I can see why they'd feel unlucky that for two totally unwitting actions they've had a goal chalked off, a red card and a free goal given to us.

What a bunch of deluded pricks they are !

I am on holiday atm but once home I will go out of my way to remind some of them that we are in the championship and the revenue they will lose from playing us will hurt them more than it hurts us as we will be playing proper local Derby games ! 

I can remember when we elevated ourselves above Wigan when Bruce won his first promotion in 1993. It was another 12 years before we had to play them after peg-leg got them to the Prem. It was those Prem years that gave them all these high-brow notions. 

I just wish Evatt had not been such an insufferably numb cunt. Had he shown an ounce of SS's tactical flexibility and nous we may never have suffered that hapless run of results against them.

Anyway - its water under the bridge and we went a good way to setting the record straight before wishing them toodle-pip. The legacy of the 2019-2026 era is that as a club and fanbase we will never again under-estimate the depth of their petty obsession with us. If we have the misfortune to draw them in a cup game or in the (hopefully distant) future end up in the same league, we should establish our superiority over them from the word go.

Let them fester like a dog turd in the sun. 

The Blackpool scrapping around after our cast-offs. The natural order is returning

Bolton's Cast Offs? | AVFTT

George Johnston | AVFTT

They're genuinely such a nothing club, like the pie eaters but at least they actually have some substance, won an fa cup and been in the Premier League.

These lot with the usual tinpot national league chants. A group of them were proper arrogant walking up Wembley Way, saying they always do us, will do it again and even little kids singing Bolton get battered.

For nothing clubs like Wigan & Stockport, we are the only relevant thing for them. Genuinely their cup finals.

Delighted we battered both of them and dragged them back down to earth. Reality check for their tinpot fans.

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On 26/05/2026 at 16:19, Leyther_Matt said:

With the way he stomped off down the tunnel after being taken off? Not for me. 

Same for me. Like what he does on the pitch not sure about his attitude.

That said he was the biggest Stockport threat all game so can see why he'd be pissed off.