Stockport FAC

[Mounts Kipper]

I keep repeating this but if you play 2 fullbacks who are better in the opposition half you need 3 centre backs… it ain’t rocket science. 

[bwfc2003]

On a seperare note - how many coppers were on duty outside the ground?? - seemed like all of GMP had rocked up for the overtime

[Cheese]

28 minutes ago, woolli said:

i mean you!, who seemed quite happy to loose at Cambridge  Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday, Rotherham, Wigan, Plymouth, Portsmouth, and now this shit! Time to take your rose tinted glasses off, and accept this lot are not good enough, and, all Evatts signings! There is a common denominator in all those games! We didnt score a goal! Now then, im sure at some point you said we didnt need a striker?, Like Evatt! Really? I accept that Rome wasnt made in a day, and we have also had some good results, 4-1, at Charlton, 5-2 at Ipswich, but they were games we were playing these teams at just the right time. 

Cant really find any positives from last night, starting from the back, Isgrove is not a full back. If Evatt thinks that he his a better option than Baptiste and Brockbank at right back, against a non league team, then they both need fucking off in Jan . Declan John as not been the same player since he signed is contract! Midfield, not alot to say really, as they were non existent. Lee tried his hardest, but cant do it all on his own. Thomasson was woeful! Forward line. WTF did Evatt see in Kachunga?, and Baka for that matter. Although Doyle as not been scoring, his work ethic is far better than these two. Infact, Non league Stockport had better forwards in Quigley and Madden, than our two.

So, in a nutshell, Evatt as alot of work to do, if given the chance. Things have worsened since the Sarc saga, i still think there is more to it than meets the eye. The most embarrassing defeat in the clubs history.

Whats your opinion Cheese? You still happy with how things are progressing?

Think you must be confusing me with someone else. I've never in my life been "happy" when Bolton have lost, and nor have I ever said "we don't need a striker". 🤷‍♂️

[Mounts Kipper]

We have had only 1 old skool defender at the club in Baptiste he should of been the first name on the team sheet last night and he didn’t get a sniff of getting on the pitch. 

[radcliffe white]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We have had only 1 old skool defender at the club in Baptiste he should of been the first name on the team sheet last night and he didn’t get a sniff of getting on the pitch. 

He’s shocking would’ve got ripped to pieces 

[DaisyHWanderer]

9 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said:

On a seperare note - how many coppers were on duty outside the ground?? - seemed like all of GMP had rocked up for the overtime

Said the same, not sure what they were expecting

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rudy]

12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I keep repeating this but if you play 2 fullbacks who are better in the opposition half you need 3 centre backs… it ain’t rocket science. 

Spot on mounts 

Espcially if you don’t have an out an out DM.

Midfield got overran, defence was left exposed, Baka couldn’t hold it up

How many times did they have 4 players running at 2/3 of ours 

 

Clean sheets win leagues. Oldest cliche in the book. 

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

He’s shocking would’ve got ripped to pieces 

Unlike Johnston & Aimson then…. National is Baptiste level he’d of managed the big barrow lad just fine using his experience, that’s in my opinion. 

[gonzo]

Why wasn't all the time the game was stopped for added on at the end?

[Cheese]

 

[MickyD]

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Why wasn't all the time the game was stopped for added on at the end?

Why?  Did you want Stockport to grab another?  Because we weren't going to score any once they'd got past the rabbit-in-the-headlights shock of the first 5-10 minutes. 

[Marc505]

32 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said:

On a seperare note - how many coppers were on duty outside the ground?? - seemed like all of GMP had rocked up for the overtime

Bolton fans are now the pariahs of English football. They'll be doing documentaries about us next.

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Why?  Did you want Stockport to grab another?  Because we weren't going to score any once they'd got past the rabbit-in-the-headlights shock of the first 5-10 minutes. 

Just want to know why? Was at least 5 minutes.

More than enough time to score two. 

[Traf]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Just want to know why? Was at least 5 minutes.

More than enough time to score two. 

to lose 7-3?

[Marc505]

1 hour ago, desperado said:

But after being critical of the embarrassing result last night, thank goodness there is a voice of reason. Great post Traf. Some people need to re-read Trafs post to get some perspective.

Great to see some of you before the game. @Elvis @Mr Grey @radcliffe white @Steejay @Marc505 (hope that train journey back to Nottingham was ok) And @MickyD cheers for the recommendation of The Wellington and the singing tips 😉

See you at Wycombe!

Good to meet you too mate it was decent in that pub, I got absolutely mobbed as well almost at autographs stage 🤣 Got bed about 1.30 am but was just thankful I didn't see the word "cancelled" when I got to station!

I'm not actively angry like I was the day after say Accrington 7-1 or either of the recent Wigan poundings, but what we can do in transfer window is crucial now as we look so threadbare.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

41 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I keep repeating this but if you play 2 fullbacks who are better in the opposition half you need 3 centre backs… it ain’t rocket science. 

That's what we got last night, and it went worse.

[Eddie]

21 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Spot on mounts 

Espcially if you don’t have an out an out DM.

Midfield got overran, defence was left exposed, Baka couldn’t hold it up

How many times did they have 4 players running at 2/3 of ours 

 

Clean sheets win leagues. Oldest cliche in the book. 

I know it’s in the other thread but in answer to what we need in the window - a big bastard, experienced (but not as old as Baps), hard as nails centre back.

I’ve said it before but considering Santos is 6 ft 5 or whatever he is, unless he is playing against a midget then he doesn’t like a battle. That’s not a massive problem because he’s clearly very good in other areas but he needs someone next to him that will take that responsibility and be the hard man at the back that wrestles forwards, leaves a foot in but more importantly is a loud presence that controls the back line - it’s no coincidence that Santos looked 10x the player when he had Gilks behind him and Baps alongside, unfortunately neither are good enough for this league. Aimson did it pretty well against Crewe but I don’t know whether he’s the answer longer term. I do know that Johnston and Santos is definitely not the answer - they’re soft as shit and Quigley showed that they can be dominated with a bit of force.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 hours ago, Mantra said:

Definitely need another DM in January. Lee and Sheehan are pretty players but don't offer much bite. Thomason is too young to step in and Tutte is injury prone as fuck.

Add that to the growing list - still need better competition at goalkeeper, striker, attacking midfield and full back. Possibly even central defence, Baptiste getting on and Johnston not playing well.

Was this a ploy then by Evatt to get fv to loosen the purse strings?

It's his job to organise the team to compensate. Ending up with 2 midfielders on the pitch is doing the exact opposite. 

3 centre halves but not enough bodies to win second balls. 3 up top not offering a great deal as an attacking force, insufficient movement and strength, and not enough defensive quality or work ethic to win the ball back early.

[Mounts Kipper]

5 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I know it’s in the other thread but in answer to what we need in the window - a big bastard, experienced (but not as old as Baps), hard as nails centre back.

I’ve said it before but considering Santos is 6 ft 5 or whatever he is, unless he is playing against a midget then he doesn’t like a battle. That’s not a massive problem because he’s clearly very good in other areas but he needs someone next to him that will take that responsibility and be the hard man at the back that wrestles forwards, leaves a foot in but more importantly is a loud presence that controls the back line - it’s no coincidence that Santos looked 10x the player when he had Gilks behind him and Baps alongside, unfortunately neither are good enough for this league. Aimson did it pretty well against Crewe but I don’t know whether he’s the answer longer term. I do know that Johnston and Santos is definitely not the answer - they’re soft as shit and Quigley showed that they can be dominated with a bit of force.

Spot on, get into Santos and rough him up he doesn’t like it, a younger but wily experienced centre half would be fantastic, a Gerry Taggart type would be the type to go for. 

[Mounts Kipper]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's what we got last night, and it went worse.

We didn’t have decent CDM though, perhaps try it when MJ is back. 

[captainmed]

Anyone can tolerate being the victim of a cup upset.

However I cannot accept being outfought and outworked.

Effort should be the minimum requirement for a professional footballer.

What has happened to that team who were exciting us earlier in the season?

Even in defeat, say @ Sunderland we looked a bloody good side.

I really cannot understand it……

Edited November 18, 2021 by captainmed

[Rudy]

6 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I know it’s in the other thread but in answer to what we need in the window - a big bastard, experienced (but not as old as Baps), hard as nails centre back.

I’ve said it before but considering Santos is 6 ft 5 or whatever he is, unless he is playing against a midget then he doesn’t like a battle. That’s not a massive problem because he’s clearly very good in other areas but he needs someone next to him that will take that responsibility and be the hard man at the back that wrestles forwards, leaves a foot in but more importantly is a loud presence that controls the back line - it’s no coincidence that Santos looked 10x the player when he had Gilks behind him and Baps alongside, unfortunately neither are good enough for this league. Aimson did it pretty well against Crewe but I don’t know whether he’s the answer longer term. I do know that Johnston and Santos is definitely not the answer - they’re soft as shit and Quigley showed that they can be dominated with a bit of force.

Need a big horrible bastard who would head a brick if it was in the air, the sort of lad who would stick the striker in row z in the first minute. Faye or Meite types not technically amazing but a nightmare to play against. All well and good having ball playing CBs but this isn’t the champions league you will be up against some horrible forwards. 
 

Santos positioning for the goal from the corner is unforgivable. No way he should be underneath the ball

[Paul Morgan]

I don’t think you can blame Santos when he has Johnson playing alongside him. In the second half we were playing with three centre backs and still let in three goals.

[radcliffe white]

1 minute ago, captainmed said:

Anyone can tolerate being the victim of a cup upset.

However I cannot accept being outfought and outworked.

Effort should be the minimum requirement for a professional footballer.

What has happened to that team who were exciting us earlier in the season?

Even in defeat, say @ Sunderland we looked a bloody good side.

I’m really cannot understand it……

Aye Cambridge/Sunderland & weds all lost but played well and created good chances

Also now dapo is a marked man earlier on teams gave him time on the ball

It’s so easy for opposition teams doing their homework on us, keep tight on dapo & press our defence as we make mistakes

job done so predictable 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We didn’t have decent CDM though, perhaps try it when MJ is back. 

They spotted the weakness and played balls in behind the wingbacks. Then one of the central three was sent wider to compensate, which wekened the middle then.

Might work with MJ back, but the fundamental issue for me was only having two midfielders in there. MJ has his qualities, but agility and mobility aren't high amongst them. 

Can't see him as one of those two last night making a great deal of difference. 

As part of a three, maybe.

Smacks of Evatt trying to make a point.