Injuries

[only1swanny]

Looking at the squad from that season (Wheater 9 goals, Beevers 7). we had a huge squad, no wonder we were struggling with a squad that size in League one!

[MickyD]

1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Regarding corners, & I've wondered for ages, as a player is about to take one they often make arm signals (usually both arms raised).

It's reasonable to assume the movements signify 'going deep', 'near post', 'wide, near penalty spot' or something but they don't seem to.

Does anyone know for sure ?

They probably change it in training every week. Pointless left hand being far post, right hand near post, both hands penalty spot, etc., because we all get to study previous games and second guess. 

[FrancisFogarty]

18 minutes ago, MickyD said:

They probably change it in training every week. Pointless left hand being far post, right hand near post, both hands penalty spot, etc., because we all get to study previous games and second guess. 

Our giant defenders go up for a corner and don't seem to be able to second guess.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 minutes ago, FrancisFogarty said:

Our giant defenders go up for a corner and don't seem to be able to second guess.

Isn't that his point, they're not doing?

Doesn't mean they're massively effective like.

[FrancisFogarty]

32 minutes ago, MickyD said:

They probably change it in training every week. Pointless left hand being far post, right hand near post, both hands penalty spot, etc., because we all get to study previous games and second guess. 

 

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Isn't that his point, they're not doing?

Doesn't mean they're massively effective like.

Exactly, far be it from me to contradict my learned friend Micky I was saying that we don't seem to be able to know this weeks tic-tac signals or second guess despite having the option to study previous games..

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, FrancisFogarty said:

 

Exactly, far be it from me to contradict my learned friend Micky I was saying that we don't seem to be able to know this weeks tic-tac signals or second guess despite having the option to study previous games..

Hmm, I think they do.

But there is an opponent doing their bit to prevent it working of course, and consistency of quality of delivery also plays a part.

Not easy to make them work all the time.

 

[boltonboris]

35 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

But there is an opponent doing their bit to prevent it working of course

 

 

You mean we're not the only team on the pitch?? 🙂

Think a lot of people need a reminder of this..

It's unfortunate I know, but we sometimes have to come up against another set of fully paid up professional athletes who spend a whole week working hard to stop us just doing whatever the feck we want

[Jol_BWFC]

Just look at the Derby goal against us. Put the ball where the player is and you have a chance of scoring. Having said that, we left him totally unmarked, which didn’t help.

Our corners inevitably don’t make it past their first man, so we never have a chance. 

[boltonboris]

1 minute ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Just look at the Derby goal against us. Put the ball where the player is and you have a chance of scoring. Having said that, we left him totally unmarked, which didn’t help.

Our corners inevitably don’t make it past their first man, so we never have a chance. 

To be fair, if we have that the ref gives a freekick. Loads of blocking, holding and a handball in there to boot

Generally, I think we're pretty good at set-pieces in terms of chances created from first and second contacts and also good at defending them.

Every fan thinks their team is shit at corners

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, Casino said:

we also had a spell under rioch where seagraves became the go to for the near post flick on

maybe it was brown

regardless, we score our share

maybe we could score more but we are not stand out shite

Whenever I hear Seagraves name mentioned (not often admittedly), I think of 2 huge goals - his finish from 1 inch v Liverpool at Burnden from a glorious "near post flick on" corner, and that important equaliser at Mansfield from about 2 yards in front of a massive away following.  Quality defender Seagraves for 3rd tier.

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Just look at the Derby goal against us. Put the ball where the player is and you have a chance of scoring. Having said that, we left him totally unmarked, which didn’t help.

Our corners inevitably don’t make it past their first man, so we never have a chance. 

Get with the programme, marking an opponent in the box just isn't the done thing any more, what did that ever achieve.

[deeane Koontz]

4 hours ago, L/H White said:

Jaidi got 8 in 43 games, sure he went back to back games scoring to?

assuming all 8 must have been from set pieces 

Now he did know how to attack a ball!

Rather than just letting it hit him

 

[L/H White]

5 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

Now he did know how to attack a ball!

Rather than just letting it hit him

 

yeah, absolute monster

[Mounts Kipper]

5 hours ago, Casino said:

we also had a spell under rioch where seagraves became the go to for the near post flick on

maybe it was brown

regardless, we score our share

maybe we could score more but we are not stand out shite

It was Brown, he was excellent at that.

[Whitesince63]

If the cross is delivered well you’ll score goals but it seems something of a lost art these days as headed goals seem to be lesser rated than those from tippy tappy. We’ve already mentioned the Morais success rate but without the quality of the cross neither Wheats nor Beevers would have got anywhere near the number they did. Probably the best exponent of all was Becks whose speared in crosses were sublime and all Uniteds strikers needed to do was get a head on them, which they did regularly.

[desperado]

“Should either player not feature, however, Bolton may find some solace in statistics – which point to a surprisingly positive trend.

The pair have only both been absent from a starting line-up at the same time once – a 2-1 home win against Wycombe Wanderers in February which also represented the last run-out for top-scorer Dion Charles.

Santos has played 40 games in all competitions and missed 14; on those occasions, Bolton have won eight, drawn two, and lost twice – against Championship side Middlesbrough in the League Cup and Carlisle United at home in League One.

Sheehan has played 49 times in all competitions and missed seven games entirely. Wanderers have won five of those outings, their only defeat at home to Bristol Rovers in December.”

From the BEN. So not all doom and gloom if Sheehan and/or Santos aren’t fit.

Would prefer them in, but a decent record without them.

I’d hope Toal central, Forrester (or Jones) right and Iredale Left.

Can’t make my mind up whether Morley (direct replacement) or Dempsey (Tommason as CDM) in if Sheehan unfit.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Santos has missed 14.

Won 8, drawn 2 and lost 2.

I've read that right?

Hmm.

[Cheshire Youri]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Santos has missed 14.

Won 8, drawn 2 and lost 2.

I've read that right?

Hmm.

Wasn't it something similar last season (or the season before) when Amison was covering for him.

[Traf]

20 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Santos has missed 14.

Won 8, drawn 2 and lost 2.

I've read that right?

Hmm.

And 1 defeat was a Cup game against a Championship team.

 

[Traf]

20 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Santos has missed 14.

Won 8, drawn 2 and lost 2.

I've read that right?

Hmm.

And 1 defeat was a Cup game against a Championship team.

 

[Traf]

[FrancisFogarty]

13 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

Now he did know how to attack a ball!

Rather than just letting it hit him

 

When Jaidi came up for the corners their defenders had enough on their hands watching him, never mind an incoming ball to contend with as well.

Great player.

[Traf]

Without our indispensable captain last season...

[DazBob]

There's no doubt that Santos is a huge player for us, in that he dictates how we play and how far up the pitch we defend.  Also, on his day he probably is the best defender in this league.

However, the stats above prove we can more than live without him.  Maybe his absence gives the others around him chance to have more influence on the game. 

I'd not be averse to selling him in the summer, regardless of which division we're in, if a decent offer comes in.

[radcliffe white]

Santos can be replaced

Yengi still has him in his pocket from the game at fratton

regards sheehan it’s Dempsey for me 

Edited April 10, 2024 by radcliffe white