Kachunga out for season

The lad from Germany with a name I can not spell couple of weeks

 

this thread could be longer than Brexit 

11 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

What does he normally train on?  I know 1 or 2 look like they're running in treacle but he isn't one of them.

Anyway, great news, that would be a massive boost if Dempsey plays a few games this season.

If he was 100% fit I’d agree but it sounds like a bit of a risk to me and unless he’s the all action tough tackling Demps of old I’d prefer he waits until the knee is fully healed, even if that means an op and waiting longer. 

11 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

What does he normally train on?  I know 1 or 2 look like they're running in treacle but he isn't one of them.

Anyway, great news, that would be a massive boost if Dempsey plays a few games this season.

Not sure if the comment is serious or not, 

Physio --> Treadmill -> Grass -> With squad, or so i'm led to believe

4 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Not sure if the comment is serious or not, 

Physio --> Treadmill -> Grass -> With squad, or so i'm led to believe

Sorry, couldn't resist, fair response 👍

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Sorry, couldn't resist, fair response 👍

In all fairness ours seems to be 

Physio -> treadmill -> Grass -> Squad training -> physio

On 15/02/2025 at 14:49, only1swanny said:

In all fairness ours seems to be 

Physio -> treadmill -> Grass -> Squad training -> physio

You missed surgery between squad & physio

Big Isles article int' evening news about Santos & his injuries, loss of form and can he return for the run in.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24941799.bolton-wanderers-next-defender-ricardo-santos/

12 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Big Isles article int' evening news about Santos & his injuries, loss of form and can he return for the run in.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24941799.bolton-wanderers-next-defender-ricardo-santos/

It'll be a dark day when I pay to read the ramblings of the esteemed thumb-headed news nonce.

 

2 hours ago, Traf said:

It'll be a dark day when I pay to read the ramblings of the esteemed thumb-headed news nonce.

 

Do I take it from that you'd want me to copy & paste it then ?

22 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Do I take it from that you'd want me to copy & paste it then ?

Nah, mate. I'm really not that interested in anything in the BN, but thanks.

There’s an article coming out in one of the papers tomorrow (not sure which one) which suggests Liverpool have less training and warm up injuries than their prem rivals because they train less often and adjust the content of their training schedule accordingly.

With Europe etc they have a busy match schedule to keep them fit, but it’s an interesting approach that seems to be working for them - could be the future.

We had BSA doing that with us years back.

"Gaaarlic Bread".

11 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

There’s an article coming out in one of the papers tomorrow (not sure which one) which suggests Liverpool have less training and warm up injuries than their prem rivals because they train less often and adjust the content of their training schedule accordingly.

With Europe etc they have a busy match schedule to keep them fit, but it’s an interesting approach that seems to be working for them - could be the future.

Recovery is every bit as important as training.

Do elite players actually need to train much? 

What's Kevin De Bruyne going to learn by dribbling round cones on a Thursday morning? 

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Recovery is every bit as important as training.

Do elite players actually need to train much? 

What's Kevin De Bruyne going to learn by dribbling round cones on a Thursday morning? 

I've long felt that, after pre-season training is done then it should become about loosening up & then tactical training. Practicing routines, shapes, free kicks/corners both attacking & defending.

Obviously following time out with injury a player needs to regain lost fitness but the hard slog is a waste & more potential for injuries. Most players mid season on are playing with pulls & strains.

Those macho coaches , no names - no pack drill, who make it the be-all & end-all are blowing smoke up their own fundaments.

19 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Recovery is every bit as important as training.

Do elite players actually need to train much? 

What's Kevin De Bruyne going to learn by dribbling round cones on a Thursday morning? 

He'll learn he needs a bib otherwise his clothes will get a little messy 

20 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Recovery is every bit as important as training.

Do elite players actually need to train much? 

What's Kevin De Bruyne going to learn by dribbling round cones on a Thursday morning? 

There have been a couple of players whose manager didnt make them train , 

Ledley King , Darren Anderton , Think Ginola was told he could do what he wanted at Newcastle , so he just wandered around smoking. 

2 hours ago, Krimzon said:

There have been a couple of players whose manager didnt make them train , 

Ledley King , Darren Anderton , Think Ginola was told he could do what he wanted at Newcastle , so he just wandered around smoking. 

Paul McGrath

6 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Paul McGrath

think that was more to do with him 

being on the PISS 

2 hours ago, Krimzon said:

There have been a couple of players whose manager didnt make them train , 

Ledley King , Darren Anderton , Think Ginola was told he could do what he wanted at Newcastle , so he just wandered around smoking. 

You may recall Allardyce finding that Michael Ricketts was a slow recoverer, even in a game. He changed his training regime to allow for this.

I doubt Ian Greaves got over excited at Worthington's more relaxed approach to things.

Could you imagine the "They have to show it in training" brigade if they had le Tissier on their books ?

A counter argument may, of course, be laid at Rashford's door I suppose.

Edited February 19, 20251 yr by Dr. Feelgood

2 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

You may recall Allardyce finding that Michael Ricketts was a slow recoverer, even in a game. He changed his training regime to allow for this.

I doubt Ian Greaves got over excited at Worthington's more relaxed approach to things.

Could you imagine the "They have to show it in training" brigade if they had le Tissier on their books ?

A counter argument may, of course, be laid at Rashford's door I suppose.

I suppose the difference between Rashford and Le Tissier/Worthington is probably attitude/body language (reportedly).  Worthy and Le Tiss seemed to be decent characters and teammates to be around with good body language and enthusiasm for practising and "training".  Maybe without actually breaking into a sprint 😀.  And when it came to hitting dead balls, shooting drills and small sided games, they would be the best by far.  Rashford less so, and seems to walk around giving off negative vibes and maybe not contributing to good team spirit.

Edited February 19, 20251 yr by Johnnyrotten

34 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I suppose the difference between Rashford and Le Tissier/Worthington is probably attitude/body language (reportedly).  Worthy and Le Tiss seemed to be decent characters and teammates to be around with good body language and enthusiasm for practising and "training".  Maybe without actually breaking into a sprint 😀.  And when it came to hitting dead balls, shooting drills and small sided games, they would be the best by far.  Rashford less so, and seems to walk around giving off negative vibes and maybe not contributing to good team spirit.

When 

Gives me the opportunity to regale you all once again with my excellent tale of recently meeting an old mate of Frank's in a pub in Leeds. Told us all sorts of tales about Frank in 'the good old days' over a beer or two.

I then got pissed and can't remember any of them.

You're welcome.

i keep waiting to hear johnston is out for 9 months

3 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

You may recall Allardyce finding that Michael Ricketts was a slow recoverer, even in a game. He changed his training regime to allow for this.

I doubt Ian Greaves got over excited at Worthington's more relaxed approach to things.

Could you imagine the "They have to show it in training" brigade if they had le Tissier on their books ?

A counter argument may, of course, be laid at Rashford's door I suppose.

Might be wrong, but I think BSA said he had a smaller lung capacity than would be expected.

I might have dreamt this of course.

4 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Paul McGrath

Seem to recall it was more a case of couldn't than wouldn't due to his knees being totally shagged after a game 

3 hours ago, wakey said:

Gives me the opportunity to regale you all once again with my excellent tale of recently meeting an old mate of Frank's in a pub in Leeds. Told us all sorts of tales about Frank in 'the good old days' over a beer or two.

I then got pissed and can't remember any of them.

You're welcome.

Remember going to a Sportsmans dinner , one of the speakers (cant remember his name ) was involved in the English National team set up said the England Team went on a tour of South America , He said along the lines of ...

"I saw Frank getting off the plane in Rio . The next time I saw him was getting back on the plane 2 weeks later. Nobody knew where he went and couldnt contact him for the entire time .  On the plane home he was just sat there looking like he'd been drained off all his blood  , a big smile on his face and a mysterious itch he couldnt get rid of that we were sure wasnt down to the mosquitoes" 

4 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

You may recall Allardyce finding that Michael Ricketts was a slow recoverer, even in a game. He changed his training regime to allow for this.

I doubt Ian Greaves got over excited at Worthington's more relaxed approach to things.

Could you imagine the "They have to show it in training" brigade if they had le Tissier on their books ?

A counter argument may, of course, be laid at Rashford's door I suppose.

Seem to recall stories of Ian Greaves tearing his hair out at Frankies lack of "enthusiasm" on the training pitch and his "laziness" on the pitch .

But when you have total mavericks like Worthy and Le Tissier you just have to hold your hands up and say do what you like . Getting either of them to become dynamic workhorses would have been like trying to plait custard. 

Thought BSA made a large mistake trying to get Jay-Jay to do more defensive work and track back etc . Just stand back and let them do what they do  cos its 'kin glorious.