Brand Evatt

[meanderson93]

24 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Back to inventing players abilities again.

There's nothing wrong with the collection of midfielders we've got. 

Helps if you play a system with an actual working midfield mind.

There's plenty wrong with them, each have their faults and currently only one of them you would say could hold their own at a higher level.

Sheehan, best footballer at the club but lightweight and easily overran and bullied out of games especially in that deeper anchor role. 

Thomason, an engine but non-league ability level. 

Matete, another with decent work rate but terrible decision making and awareness, doesn't really have a role would benefit from a 3rd midfielder sat behind him as well. 

Lolos, looks half decent on the ball, more of a second striker than a midfielder for me and a luxury we currently can't carry in tougher games.

Dempsey, sick note, good player for this level but can't rely on him. 

Arfield, never should have been signed, legs look like they went 3 years ago.

Sharples-Ahmed. who knows, too soon to say for the lad but hope he gets a chance to develop properly. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Non league ability. 

Jesus. 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Stressing the block eh?

No 8s, 6s, 10s etc. More akin to hook sizes.

Surely he prefers 69s?

Joyless verbage; like some some self-serving progressive in a none job, telling everyone they must attend DEI courses.

Do one. 

 

[desperado]

37 minutes ago, thebells said:

that's pressure and nothing else

Normal pressure or scoreline pressure? 😁

[thebells]

2 minutes ago, desperado said:

Normal pressure or scoreline pressure? 😁

Scoreboard pressure of course 😉

I do know he's a cricket fan, and it's a well known cricket analogy (which actually carries merit). I'm not sure it quite works in football. 

The fella is just clinging on to anything he can

[tomski]

2 minutes ago, thebells said:

Scoreboard pressure of course 😉

I do know he's a cricket fan, and it's a well known cricket analogy (which actually carries merit). I'm not sure it quite works in football. 

The fella is just clinging on to anything he can

The liking cricket explains a few things.

[Farnywhite]

I do think most of the squad is overrated by the supporters a new manager isn’t going to be able to change them from being bottlers the only ones I would be disappointed to loose in Jan would be . Baxter , toal , Sheehan , Collins , tomo , Charles that’s out of a squad of 24 players 

[thebells]

3 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

I do think most of the squad is overrated by the supporters a new manager isn’t going to be able to change them from being bottlers the only ones I would be disappointed to loose in Jan would be . Baxter , toal , Sheehan , Collins , tomo , Charles that’s out of a squad of 24 players 

Harsh - they finished 3rd last season and now you're ditching 18 of them.

The squad needs a bit of a refresh, but more than anything they need a new voice

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, thebells said:

Harsh - they finished 3rd last season and now you're ditching 18 of them.

The squad needs a bit of a refresh, but more than anything they need a new voice

But that finish was based on form in the first half of the season that I think for many of our players was above their averages. Cogley was excellent till Christmas. Charles on fire. Vic very very good. And we had a settled and solid back three with wing backs who were defensively very strong.

I think in many cases people were probably playing at their peak - you can’t necessarily sustain that and I think the problem is that at their average there is too much of a drop off in this group. 

[thebells]

2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

But that finish was based on form in the first half of the season that I think for many of our players was above their averages. Cogley was excellent till Christmas. Charles on fire. Vic very very good. And we had a settled and solid back three with wing backs who were defensively very strong.

I think in many cases people were probably playing at their peak - you can’t necessarily sustain that and I think the problem is that at their average there is too much of a drop off in this group. 

Hard to disagree. I think some of the reactions are OTT so I probably lean towards the other end of the spectrum. The idea we can lose 18 of the squad without blinking is a but much. 

I would say that the following can be moved on

Dempsey (regretfully - a genuine talent but never fit)

Jones and Dion (again, just lost their spark since last season)

Nlundulu (let him go and live his best life)

One of CMG / McAtee. Would be a huge swallowing of pride to let McAtee go, and I doubt we'd find many takers on his wage, but he's been such a disappointment. 

 

I think the rest, even Vic, have something to offer under the right structure and new management. Review at end of season by all means but for now, they'd be the only ones I'd be ok with us losing. We do need a goalscorer and we do need a dynamic ball carrying midfielder (Paris, Paris, wherefore art thou Paris)

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

It was a mistake to not replace Iredale with another left-footed centre back

[Whitesince63]

11 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It was a mistake to not replace Iredale with another left-footed centre back

It was a mistake to let Iredale go period. He was the only true left footed defender we had but Evatt puts more store in attacking than having a solid defender in the team.

[Zico]

1 hour ago, thebells said:

Hard to disagree. I think some of the reactions are OTT so I probably lean towards the other end of the spectrum. The idea we can lose 18 of the squad without blinking is a but much. 

I would say that the following can be moved on

Dempsey (regretfully - a genuine talent but never fit)

Jones and Dion (again, just lost their spark since last season)

Nlundulu (let him go and live his best life)

One of CMG / McAtee. Would be a huge swallowing of pride to let McAtee go, and I doubt we'd find many takers on his wage, but he's been such a disappointment. 

 

I think the rest, even Vic, have something to offer under the right structure and new management. Review at end of season by all means but for now, they'd be the only ones I'd be ok with us losing. We do need a goalscorer and we do need a dynamic ball carrying midfielder (Paris, Paris, wherefore art thou Paris)

 

I'd quite happily keep Dion, McAtee and CMG for the next manager 

Vic can go though

[gonzo]

Fuckin ell its Iredale today 🤦‍♂️

[wakey]

I liked Iredale but pretty sure he used to get pelters on here.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, thebells said:

Hard to disagree. I think some of the reactions are OTT so I probably lean towards the other end of the spectrum. The idea we can lose 18 of the squad without blinking is a but much. 

I would say that the following can be moved on

Dempsey (regretfully - a genuine talent but never fit)

Jones and Dion (again, just lost their spark since last season)

Nlundulu (let him go and live his best life)

One of CMG / McAtee. Would be a huge swallowing of pride to let McAtee go, and I doubt we'd find many takers on his wage, but he's been such a disappointment. 

 

I think the rest, even Vic, have something to offer under the right structure and new management. Review at end of season by all means but for now, they'd be the only ones I'd be ok with us losing. We do need a goalscorer and we do need a dynamic ball carrying midfielder (Paris, Paris, wherefore art thou Paris)

 

I think what I’m saying is Evatt has built a squad primarily of 9’s or 5’s. Their best is 9/10. Which is brilliant. But their worst is a 5. And their average is fairly close to their worst.

I suspect in this league you need to get lucky with such a squad where you are able to sustain top performance across the time period of a season. And most go up with a squad of 6-8’s. Maybe not ever being brilliant but their average week in week out is a 7.

If you look at most of our historically successful sides they could hit heights but they didn’t have to in order to win majority of the games they played. And their lows were not too low. 

[RoadRunnerFan]

8 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Fuckin ell its Iredale today 🤦‍♂️

Brandon Comely's doing really well at Walsall. 

[meanderson93]

1 minute ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Brandon Comely's doing really well at Walsall. 

And Liam Gordon who I saw mentioned earlier. Scored against us didn't he? 

[thebells]

Threads like this make me think of some of the players we signed late Hill / early Evatt. That period around Ken Anderson / Bassini leading to Sharon / Evatt would make a great book / podcast / documentary, especially if some of the characters involved were ever to give up everything they knew.

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

32 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

It was a mistake to let Iredale go period. He was the only true left footed defender we had but Evatt puts more store in attacking than having a solid defender in the team.

It wasn't a mistake to let him go, it was a mistake to not replace him with another left-footed centre back when we knew our only other was returning from a long-term injury

[Eddie]

Iredale was shit 

[tomski]

All just skirting round the issue here. 

[Traf]

2 hours ago, meanderson93 said:

From what I've seen, Khumbeni is the exact opposite of that description. 

A more traditional and physical defensive midfielder type, only concern is whether he'd got the ability to not have to be carried in a team that wants to dominate possession. 

Really? What have you seen of Khumbeni and where and for how long?

24 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Fuckin ell its Iredale today 🤦‍♂️

Move over Max Conway, we have a new Maldini

[Jol_BWFC]

48 minutes ago, tomski said:

All just skirting round the issue here. 

Butter on hotdogs?

[Leyther_Matt]

Tbf I did post the other day that Iredale has had a new lease of life at Hibs. And he was the last defender we had who could present an occasional goal threat. Doesn’t necessarily mean we’re missing as such, mind, but I did think he’d have come in handy yesterday on the single occasion that Williams got to the byline and sent it to the back post (which probably says more about our strikers’ lack of instinct more than anything else)