We had a decent thread a while back discussing Evatt’s philosophies and approach to the game (think it got tainted and pulled)

So not a bad time to start it up again at the beginning of the season.

In the main he’s done a fantastic job. A minority lost patience round about Xmas/New Year in both seasons. 

But surely now he has the large backing of the majority of fans and the brand he talked about implementing here is now well and truly established.

Good article above highlighting how he’s using Sport Science to get the squad performing to it’s optimum level.

A young, meticulous, intelligent and passionate individual, who we are very lucky to have leading our club.

I hope he gets what he deserves with promotion to the Championship. 

1 minute ago, Stig said:

Abuse he got from the chairman?

Haha

Abuse

Fucking hell

Fwiw, she shouldnt have said what she did, imo, but abuse....come on

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Fwiw, she shouldnt have said what she did, imo, but abuse....come on

I thought she was spot on! 😂

No coincidence that some poor results came about when our first choice keeper was injured.

And she wasn’t abusive or disrespectful.

Unlike some of the muppets who did abuse him last year.

As @radcliffe white and @CSW witnessed, it takes a lot to rile me up, but one muppet got both barrels at Stevenage away last year.

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Not that i know of

Id always assumed it was the shit he and his family were getting

@Dr Faustus

Santos also

We really have some braindead mongos

I can’t elaborate, other than we really do have some brain dead mongos

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Haha

Abuse

Fucking hell

Fwiw, she shouldnt have said what she did, imo, but abuse....come on

Just a joke mate.

Not sure he had much of a future here after her comments though

2 hours ago, Rival Son said:

The police don’t prosecute and, frankly, any prosecution would be as much an overreaction as the idiotic, but clearly not serious, original Twitter post.

The police can charge someone who can then be prosecuted without the CPS being consulted. Although in this case they would likely seek CPS advice. 

2 hours ago, burnden said:

Aye 

 

Not condoning brainless social media posts in saying this ... but "reprehensible" is a word that could equally be applied to three straight home defeats against Wigan and a 5-0 defeat at Stockport County. About time they looked at their own "reprehensible" behaviour towards the fanbase.

Nah, not for me.

Entirely different.

Vast majority are unhappy about this season and all surrounding it.

That is not comparable with asking for someone to be murdered, even if there was a (small) element of jest in the comment.

1 hour ago, desperado said:

I thought she was spot on! 😂

No coincidence that some poor results came about when our first choice keeper was injured.

And she wasn’t abusive or disrespectful.

Unlike some of the muppets who did abuse him last year.

As @radcliffe white and @CSW witnessed, it takes a lot to rile me up, but one muppet got both barrels at Stevenage away last year.

I'd disagree, I'd say it was a coincidence, largely.  The fixtures got harder - aways at Blackpool, Wigan, Derby etc, admittedly had a dodgy game at Blackpool along with everyone else but we weren't winning those games with Baxter in goal. 

Unsure which other games we missed Baxter in (and he makes errors too - Carlisle, Bristol at home, yesterday's goal).  All 3 home defeats last year were with Baxter, none with Coleman. 

Sharon gets a lot right but I thought her comments were well out of order, not to mention inaccurate.  You'd think we'd replaced Jussi with a full back.

Folk have a habit of exaggerating for effect on social media. Happens on here and we probably all do it to a greater or lesser extent.

This is a case of a dickhead doing exactly that thinking he was being funny in the process.

What he said is clearly unacceptable and he should face the consequences.

Silly fucker should get a lengthy stadium ban and some form of slap on the wrists from the old bill sufficient to make other dickheads who think they're being funny think twice.

Nowt'll change until / unless platforms like x are made responsible for content or there's some miraculous social shift and we all become nice people. I'd go for the first option. 

4 minutes ago, wakey said:

Folk have a habit of exaggerating for effect on social media. Happens on here and we probably all do it to a greater or lesser extent.

This is a case of a dickhead doing exactly that thinking he was being funny in the process.

What he said is clearly unacceptable and he should face the consequences.

Silly fucker should get a lengthy stadium ban and some form of slap on the wrists from the old bill sufficient to make other dickheads who think they're being funny think twice.

Nowt'll change until / unless platforms like x are made responsible for content or there's some miraculous social shift and we all become nice people. I'd go for the first option. 

There are people in prison atm having posted online calling people to commit murder.. 

The excuse of "it was a joke" doesn't wash, 

3 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I'd disagree, I'd say it was a coincidence, largely.  The fixtures got harder - aways at Blackpool, Wigan, Derby etc, admittedly had a dodgy game at Blackpool along with everyone else but we weren't winning those games with Baxter in goal. 

Unsure which other games we missed Baxter in (and he makes errors too - Carlisle, Bristol at home, yesterday's goal).  All 3 home defeats last year were with Baxter, none with Coleman. 

Sharon gets a lot right but I thought her comments were well out of order, not to mention inaccurate.  You'd think we'd replaced Jussi with a full back.

I agree. This was a pre-planned internal piece that she had thought out beforehand, not being caught on the hop by the media.

In defending Evatt, she threw Coleman under the bus (presumably not realising the irony).

She could have said the injuries throughout the spine of the team. She didn't. In effect, she used the fact that Coleman got shit from a section of the fans as the bit that folk would most identify with.

I think it was very poor. I'd also like to think she has since realised this and regrets saying it, but I've no  basis for that since there's never been owt said to try to set things straight.

 

1 minute ago, only1swanny said:

There are people in prison atm having posted online calling people to commit murder.. 

The excuse of "it was a joke" doesn't wash, 

I agree.

The only area with any real scope for disagreement is how severe the punishment.

But I suspect there is some defence that there is more scope for it to be seen as 'flippancy' in this case than in others. Or, to put it another way, in other cases you could interpret it as a serious call to action. Don't think you could in this case.

But he should obviously be punished, and the punishment should be harsh enough to deter anyone even considering similar comments.

33 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I'd disagree, I'd say it was a coincidence, largely.  The fixtures got harder - aways at Blackpool, Wigan, Derby etc, admittedly had a dodgy game at Blackpool along with everyone else but we weren't winning those games with Baxter in goal. 

Unsure which other games we missed Baxter in (and he makes errors too - Carlisle, Bristol at home, yesterday's goal).  All 3 home defeats last year were with Baxter, none with Coleman. 

Sharon gets a lot right but I thought her comments were well out of order, not to mention inaccurate.  You'd think we'd replaced Jussi with a full back.

Well it’s opinions and I respect that. But IMO it’s more subjective than what you have said. In my eyes Coleman was never as steady as the 2 we have now, not as good a goalkeeper and together with a defence that didn’t have much confidence in him were responsible for some poor goals/results at a critical time.

That said, we’re not talking Billy Crellin here. He was ok. And certainty nowhere near as bad as some of the numpties were trying to make out

3 hours ago, Casino said:

Joel Coleman is currently unavailable for selection and id not be in the least bit surprised if that wasnt linked to stick on twitter

I've heard similar. He's effectively on gardening leave.
Personally I feel he'd be better off going playing football somewhere else on loan.

8 minutes ago, Traf said:

I've heard similar. He's effectively on gardening leave.
Personally I feel he'd be better off going playing football somewhere else on loan.

Presumably that's the well touted HR issue that's been going on?

13 minutes ago, desperado said:

Well it’s opinions and I respect that. But IMO it’s more subjective than what you have said. In my eyes Coleman was never as steady as the 2 we have now, not as good a goalkeeper and together with a defence that didn’t have much confidence in him were responsible for some poor goals/results at a critical time.

That said, we’re not talking Billy Crellin here. He was ok. And certainty nowhere near as bad as some of the numpties were trying to make out

My view too. I've NO idea of these 'much vaunted HR issues' though.

I DO know that Baxter it high quality, but too much involved in the tippy-tappy. Maybe he's good at following instructions, however bad that instructions.

I also know that whenever Southwood plays I have no qualms & think he moves things along moe quickly than Baxter (&, maybe, doesn't follow orders as well ... & bless him for that tbh).

53 minutes ago, desperado said:

Well it’s opinions and I respect that. But IMO it’s more subjective than what you have said. In my eyes Coleman was never as steady as the 2 we have now, not as good a goalkeeper and together with a defence that didn’t have much confidence in him were responsible for some poor goals/results at a critical time.

That said, we’re not talking Billy Crellin here. He was ok. And certainty nowhere near as bad as some of the numpties were trying to make out

I'll agree all day long that Baxter is steadier than Coleman, but he also saved us a few times and no guarantee Baxter makes the same saves on the day.  I just can't think of any game where I came away thinking we'd dropped points because of Coleman.  Possibly Exeter's 1st goal when he came off his line, but I think Baxter would have too (2 great finishes by them).  Maybe Charlton's 2nd in the 3-3. 

We didn't drop many points with Coleman playing, aside from the games we always lose, and had some good results. Its a myth in my book that we'd have had more points with Baxter. but always happy to hear your opinion (but the chairman absolutely should not be commenting negatively on an individual player).

Edited January 5, 20251 yr by Johnnyrotten

47 minutes ago, Traf said:

I've heard similar. He's effectively on gardening leave.
Personally I feel he'd be better off going playing football somewhere else on loan.

Looking at his appearance record, I’d suggest game time isn’t a deal breaker for him

1 hour ago, only1swanny said:

There are people in prison atm having posted online calling people to commit murder.. 

The excuse of "it was a joke" doesn't wash, 

A standard has been set legally over recent months since the wave of prosecutions after the riots in Summer. Anyone being as brainless as that lad is likely to be dealt with to that standard, rightly.

5 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I'll agree all day long that Baxter is steadier than Coleman, but he also saved us a few times and no guarantee Baxter makes the same saves on the day.  I just can't think of any game where I came away thinking we'd dropped points because of Coleman.  Possibly Exeter's 1st goal when he came off his line, but I think Baxter would have too (2 great finishes by them).  Maybe Charlton's 2nd in the 3-3. 

We didn't drop many points with Baxter playing, aside from the games we always lose, and had some good results. Its a myth in my book that we'd have had more points with Baxter. but always happy to hear your opinion (but the chairman absolutely should not be commenting negatively on an individual player).

Maybe I'm in a minority but once he got up to speed I actually thought Coleman was alright. Certainly not worthy of the chairman scapegoating him.

I can think of multiple other reasons we didn't go up ahead of Coleman being a downgrade on Baxter.

19 minutes ago, tomski said:

Looking at his appearance record, I’d suggest game time isn’t a deal breaker for him

No, of course, but sitting knowing he's got fuck all to do can't be good for his head.

20 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I'll agree all day long that Baxter is steadier than Coleman, but he also saved us a few times and no guarantee Baxter makes the same saves on the day.  I just can't think of any game where I came away thinking we'd dropped points because of Coleman.  Possibly Exeter's 1st goal when he came off his line, but I think Baxter would have too (2 great finishes by them).  Maybe Charlton's 2nd in the 3-3. 

We didn't drop many points with Coleman playing, aside from the games we always lose, and had some good results. Its a myth in my book that we'd have had more points with Baxter. but always happy to hear your opinion (but the chairman absolutely should not be commenting negatively on an individual player).

Baxter was culpable of poor mistakes on at least a couple of occasions upon his return.

1 hour ago, Traf said:

I've heard similar. He's effectively on gardening leave.
Personally I feel he'd be better off going playing football somewhere else on loan.

Is he not free to leave to do that Traf?  Why is he on garden leave in the first place?  

1 minute ago, burnden said:

Is he not free to leave to do that Traf?  Why is he on garden leave in the first place?  

He's not actually on gardening leave, but might as well be.

He copped a load of stick last season on social media and with being a local lad with local family, they were getting stick in public too. This obviously has an effect on people and I think it was decided that he would be better if he didn't feature in the first team squad for an indefinite period.

I'm sure he could go on loan if the chance came up.

15 minutes ago, Traf said:

Baxter was culpable of poor mistakes on at least a couple of occasions upon his return.

I dont think baxter has been as good since his return, but that might just be cos he got better while he was out

I think the unsettled back 3 in front doesnt help but until the injuries dry up, we are where we are