We had a decent thread a while back discussing Evatt’s philosophies and approach to the game (think it got tainted and pulled)

So not a bad time to start it up again at the beginning of the season.

In the main he’s done a fantastic job. A minority lost patience round about Xmas/New Year in both seasons. 

But surely now he has the large backing of the majority of fans and the brand he talked about implementing here is now well and truly established.

Good article above highlighting how he’s using Sport Science to get the squad performing to it’s optimum level.

A young, meticulous, intelligent and passionate individual, who we are very lucky to have leading our club.

I hope he gets what he deserves with promotion to the Championship. 

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Neither do I, it's just a noticeable trend. Yes, obviously there is more to it. I just to think it would be daft to pot him now.

I think it daft not to. That's a football forum in a nutshell I suppose.

some Bolton fans need to realise we are a league one team. 

If we get promoted ACE, but the last time we were in the Premiership, it nearly destroyed the club as it wasn't sustainable. 

He's been backed financially, and he's admitted he has gotten it wrong with the players we have, but we don't have an alternative (no plan B), 

We have to face it, we have a weaker team than this time last year, and if we hit playoff's, we've done well.. 

Be nice to get to the championship though.

Worry about the premier league at a later date.

2 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

We have to face it, we have a weaker team than this time last year, and if we hit playoff's, we've done well.. 

What a load of shite.

3 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

some Bolton fans need to realise we are a league one team. 

If we get promoted ACE, but the last time we were in the Premiership, it nearly destroyed the club as it wasn't sustainable. 

He's been backed financially, and he's admitted he has gotten it wrong with the players we have, but we don't have an alternative (no plan B), 

We have to face it, we have a weaker team than this time last year, and if we hit playoff's, we've done well.. 

 

Just now, Zico said:

 

 

1 minute ago, DazBob said:

What a load of shite.

go on, which bit? 

 

On paper we are stronger but in reality, far from it. 

I think he goes tomorrow.

Just now, only1swanny said:

 

go on, which bit? 

 

On paper we are stronger but in reality, far from it. 

The bit being weaker and doing well to make the play offs

1 minute ago, only1swanny said:

 

go on, which bit? 

The first bit and the last bit.

The third bit is true. 

The second bit is completely irrelevant. 

1 minute ago, DazBob said:

The first bit and the last bit.

The third bit is true. 

The second bit is completely irrelevant. 

We are a League one team, we've been here for 3 seasons now? 9 years since we last played in the Championship and then we were beaten week in week out..

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be up there, but now that we're in a league with teams with more financial clout than us, and more savvy set ups, we're going to struggle. 

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

I get it. But it's League 1. Whoever our next manager is, as long as we're in this division we'll lose 4 or 5 nill occasionally.

It is absolutely not a given that, because we are in League 1, watching League 1 players, we should expect to see them get pasted three or four times a season. 

The Parky team that got out of this League only lost two games by two goals all season, none by any more than two

1 minute ago, ianofcleveleys said:

It is absolutely not a given that, because we are in League 1, watching League 1 players, we should expect to see them get pasted three or four times a season. 

The Parky team that got out of this League only lost two games by two goals all season, none by any more than two

Obviously it's not a given. But that was a long time ago. We've started from scratch since then.

8 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

We are a League one team, we've been here for 3 seasons now? 9 years since we last played in the Championship and then we were beaten week in week out..

You say some of our fans need to realise we are a League One team. 

Everyone realises we are a League  One team.

It's why so many of us are pissed off. We fucked it up last season and there's no indication this season will be any better. 

And we don't want us to be a League One team any longer.

Edited November 10, 20241 yr by DazBob

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Obviously it's not a given. But that was a long time ago. We've started from scratch since then.

Time's moving on from starting from scratch, we are an established L1 side with well documented aspirations to get out of the Division. Such sides don't regularly toss games 4 or 5 nil. 

Saw this on twitter. 

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

I get it. But it's League 1. Whoever our next manager is, as long as we're in this division we'll lose 4 or 5 nill occasionally.

I would have said as long as we're chasing promotion (any division) there would be occasional great wins against fellow promotion contenders or local rivals.  But there aren't.  Plenty the other way round though, not just defeats but games we just don't lay a glove on the opponent.

And there won't be many teams that get promoted this season that have a minus goal difference after a third of the season.  The mighty Wycombe have scored 10 more than us and conceded 8 less.

6 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Time's moving on from starting from scratch, we are an established L1 side with well documented aspirations to get out of the Division. Such sides don't regularly toss games 4 or 5 nil. 

^ This is the arrogance that other teams rightfully mock us for. As if we're entitled to go up, because we're Bolton Wanderers. Reality is obviously too tough for some.

14 minutes ago, Cheese said:

^ This is the arrogance that other teams rightfully mock us for. As if we're entitled to go up, because we're Bolton Wanderers. Reality is obviously too tough for some.

We’re not entitled to go up by any means, but we certainly have justifiable aspirations to do so, and tied in with those aspirations is very much an expectation that we don’t get thumped by four or five goals on an ever more frequent basis. 

2 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

We’re not entitled to go up by any means, but we certainly have justifiable aspirations to do so, and tied in with those aspirations is very much an expectation that we don’t get thumped by four or five goals on an ever more frequent basis. 

Every team in the division could claim they have a "justifiable expectation" to be better than they are. Get over it. The Prem years were down to money. Nothing else.

10 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Every team in the division could claim they have a "justifiable expectation" to be better than they are. Get over it. The Prem years were down to money. Nothing else.

Not many have spent c£3m on their forward line.

Considering the size of our budget relative to the rest of the league this season and last, and especially the fact we've had seven transfer windows to build a capable squad, promotion is a perfectly reasonable aspiration

18 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Every team in the division could claim they have a "justifiable expectation" to be better than they are. Get over it. The Prem years were down to money. Nothing else.

Relatively speaking, under Alladyce, they weren't

5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Considering the size of our budget relative to the rest of the league this season and last, and especially the fact we've had seven transfer windows to build a capable squad, promotion is a perfectly reasonable aspiration

You arrogant bastard 

1 hour ago, only1swanny said:

some Bolton fans need to realise we are a league one team. 

If we get promoted ACE, but the last time we were in the Premiership, it nearly destroyed the club as it wasn't sustainable. 

He's been backed financially, and he's admitted he has gotten it wrong with the players we have, but we don't have an alternative (no plan B), 

We have to face it, we have a weaker team than this time last year, and if we hit playoff's, we've done well.. 

And that’s why he should go

52 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Time's moving on from starting from scratch, we are an established L1 side with well documented aspirations to get out of the Division. Such sides don't regularly toss games 4 or 5 nil. 

 

41 minutes ago, Cheese said:

^ This is the arrogance that other teams rightfully mock us for. As if we're entitled to go up, because we're Bolton Wanderers. Reality is obviously too tough for some.

I think most of us just want to see us at least have a go in the big/local games, rather than meekly rolling over to have our tummies tickled.

No one likes losing, but the actual performances have been unacceptable.

And thats not arrogance, its the minimum any fan expects, from any club.

Other fans only mock those who find the situation acceptable.