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Brand Evatt

We had a decent thread a while back discussing Evatt’s philosophies and approach to the game (think it got tainted and pulled)

So not a bad time to start it up again at the beginning of the season.

In the main he’s done a fantastic job. A minority lost patience round about Xmas/New Year in both seasons. 

But surely now he has the large backing of the majority of fans and the brand he talked about implementing here is now well and truly established.

Good article above highlighting how he’s using Sport Science to get the squad performing to it’s optimum level.

A young, meticulous, intelligent and passionate individual, who we are very lucky to have leading our club.

I hope he gets what he deserves with promotion to the Championship. 

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1 hour ago, tomski said:

I’ve given up on him going. Genuinely didn’t give it a 2nd thought. I have a theory (no itk or proof) that we will have to wait till it’s mathematically over till he goes which will be some time off. 

I agree, we'll get in the playoffs and lose. 

2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not wishing to tempt fate - but have we lost at home to Blackpool in the last few decades?

They don't strike me as a bogey side and beating them 1-0 with a (rare for us) 2nd half winner was one of the highlights of the season.  They've scored 1 goal in their last 4 games here in last 8 or 9 years.

Blackpool away is a different matter entirely 😀

Less than four days earlier Stockport lost 6-0 at home don’t expect Blackpools poor run to continue against us

13 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

In his pre-match press conference yesterday he described Saturday's result as a "complete shock"

It echoes his "unrecognisable" claim after the play-off final 

It's incredible to me how he can still be at a point where a result like Saturday is a surprise after previous capitulations under pressure

So wedded to his philosophy, that he can't see that it won't/can't work all the time.

Yes, it will win us many a game, but without the pragmatism to see what we all see, and adjust accordingly, then a nearly but not quite story looks to continue. 

52 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

In his pre-match press conference yesterday he described Saturday's result as a "complete shock"

It's because the players tell him they've been working hard in training all week and followed his instructions to the letter

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

In his pre-match press conference yesterday he described Saturday's result as a "complete shock"

It echoes his "unrecognisable" claim after the play-off final 

It's incredible to me how he can still be at a point where a result like Saturday is a surprise after previous capitulations under pressure

If it was a complete shock and Wembley was to him unrecognisable then you have to ask the question how can he turn things round if he does not see the reoccurring problems ? 
 

I have asked the question on here and other fans forums to those backing IE , what is that you think he is going to do to tackle these problems. Well if he does not see them he clearly won't do anything. 

Sharon needs to stop fucking about and sack the cunt. Simples 🤪

He’s not going, is he?

I reckon there’d be some rumours kicking around if something was going on.

If he survives this then he’s a very lucky guy as probably 90% of managers would have been potted between the play off loss and the Stockport embarrassment.

You can write the story when we all look back at another failed campaign and point to Oxford, Huddersfield and the most recent shambles of Stockport as key points in the season where we should've cut ties. 

I'd say it's just a matter of when now and not if. 

He's lost the fans, you simply don't get that back. 

It'd be the best outcome for all including Ian to be able to take some time away and reflect on his own failings. 

2 minutes ago, Eddie said:

He’s not going, is he?

I reckon there’d be some rumours kicking around if something was going on.

If he survives this then he’s a very lucky guy as probably 90% of managers would have been potted between the play off loss and the Stockport embarrassment.

I agree.

The one thing that could speed up his departure is attendances dropping and the crowd getting on his back during games.

You never know, we might get another pasting tonight. God forbid that happens, fuck knows what his excuse is gonna be then!

I think the club are very much letting him decide. Which is nonsense within itself 

SB came out a while ago and said she is absolutely comfortable in taking tough decisions which benefit the football club. 
 

the only tough decision she has made to date was deciding to keep Evatt when we were languishing near the bottom of L2. Made miles easier in my book by the fact we weren’t in the stadium at the time. He / she / they (no that’s not a trans pronouns) were protected from the noise.

since then, at every point where it’s made sense for him to go the easy decision, which has been to keep him, has been made. 

Despite everything 

I fully expect us to finish top six right now 

And I assume SB does too 

Dunno about her but I'll reassess on Jan 2nd

Top 6 yes but I can’t see higher than the play offs and I have zero confidence we can achieve anything in the playoffs 

1 minute ago, Zico said:

Despite everything 

I fully expect us to finish top six right now 

And I assume SB does too 

Dunno about her but I'll reassess on Jan 2nd

I would tend to agree but at the same time you just know now that there's gonna be a number of other embarrassing results along the way and that obviously we'll fall at the final hurdle. 

I'd happily take an outside shot at the play offs with a different manager in charge if we could re-invent ourselves with a bit of steel and a pragmatic approach to certain games.

5 minutes ago, Zico said:

Despite everything 

I fully expect us to finish top six right now 

And I assume SB does too 

Dunno about her but I'll reassess on Jan 2nd

I agree on top 6 (and so we should!), I just don’t think we’d get promoted from there though. Strong likelihood that the other 3 would be any combination of Huddersfield, Rotherham, Wrexham, Barnsley, Posh - there’s not a hope that we come out on top unless something changes before then.

If SB is working on the expectation that we’ll make the play offs so there’s no need for a change, then I think she’s hugely misguided. I’d back most managers to get this squad into the L1 play offs, so that’s not a major risk if you were to change, the bigger risk is sticking with Evatt and expecting what happens in the play offs to be any different.

15 minutes ago, Zico said:

Despite everything 

I fully expect us to finish top six right now 

And I assume SB does too 

Dunno about her but I'll reassess on Jan 2nd

I don’t with Evatt in charge. There are clearly six better teams than us at the moment mainly because our manager is an idiot. Wycombe, Brum, Wrexham, Barnsley, Lincoln and Stockport all have pragmatic managers capable of getting results. 

17 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I don’t with Evatt in charge. There are clearly six better teams than us at the moment mainly because our manager is an idiot. Wycombe, Brum, Wrexham, Barnsley, Lincoln and Stockport all have pragmatic managers capable of getting results. 

I’d not be surprised if 5 if not all 6 of them didn’t finish above us even with Evatt as our manager. It’s very possible we finish in the top 2 with or without Evatt. 

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52 minutes ago, bwfc4ife said:

It'd be the best outcome for all including Ian to be able to take some time away and reflect on his own failings. 

The weakness in that is the "time away and reflect on his own failings" bit. He doesn't believe he has any.

9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d not be surprised if 5 if not all 6 of them didn’t finish above us even with Evatt as our manager. It’s very possible we finish in the top 2 with or without Evatt. 

Without we could for sure

But with I doubt it 

Because of the nature of his team more than anything 

This run to the the of the year is huge in that respect

I must be in the minority as I can’t see him getting us into the play offs .

He's still here then 

I'd take a 5-0 loss tonight in the micky mouse cup if it means he gets fucked off. Sorry not sorry 

22 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d not be surprised if 5 if not all 6 of them didn’t finish above us even with Evatt as our manager. It’s very possible we finish in the top 2 with or without Evatt. 

More likely without than with.

His fatal flaw in his one-eyed obsession with Pep-ball and no other options. He can tweak away but that is going to remain what he does.

8 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

He's still here then 

I'd take a 5-0 loss tonight in the micky mouse cup if it means he gets fucked off. Sorry not sorry 

I just hope he doesn’t go full strength  just to get a win  because he is under pressure especially having rested players for the FA cup I

i would rather he fields the B team and if they can get a win good if they get beat even better because the further we go in it the more the comp will get in the way . 

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

agree on top 6 (and so we should!), I just don’t think we’d get promoted from there though. Strong likelihood that the other 3 would be any combination of Huddersfield, Rotherham, Wrexham, Barnsley, Posh - there’s not a hope that we come out on top unless something changes before then.

We don’t get through the play offs Wembley would be to much pressure for this shower no matter who is in charge a new manger would need the Jan window we’re we could possibly move one or two out but the summer window to make bigger changes .
 

unless we can get into top 2 which was the aim we aren’t going up 

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