Cheese Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said: While that fella may be an idiot, you’d have to have your head buried in the sand to believe Islam isn’t causing issues in the uk. A lot of people have deep concerns about the rates of immigration in this country. The lefts only answer seems to be to call them all fascists which is just stoking an ever growing fire. Do you know any Muslims, and if so have you told them they're causing you issues? Quote
Guest Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 Seems pretty calm tonight with counter protestors seemingly being welcomed by communities. Not much trouble. Thank the lord. Seems like the quick sentencing has done the trick. Quote
Winchester White Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 Just now, bwfcfan5 said: Seems pretty calm tonight with counter protestors seemingly being welcomed by communities. Not much trouble. Thank the lord. Seems like the quick sentencing has done the trick. I wish you were right but it's Wednesday to be fair. Quote
royal white Posted August 7, 2024 Author Posted August 7, 2024 I’m all for tough sentences for these rioters and counter protestors but I’m struggling to see the logic in releasing people who have been involved in murders to create space for people involved in lesser crimes. Quote
Winchester White Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, royal white said: I’m all for tough sentences for these rioters and counter protestors but I’m struggling to see the logic in releasing people who have been involved in murders to create space for people involved in lesser crimes. This isn't new though? Bad folk have been released early for years to ease overcrowding, or do you think it's only started happening recently? Quote
royal white Posted August 7, 2024 Author Posted August 7, 2024 Just now, Winchester White said: This isn't new though? Bad folk have been released early for years to ease overcrowding, or do you think it's only started happening recently? No shit, but it’s happening on a much larger scale at the moment and bad folk are being released even earlier. Quote
Winchester White Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 Just now, royal white said: No shit, but it’s happening on a much larger scale at the moment and bad folk are being released even earlier. And who's fault is that? Quote
Casino Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 Just now, Winchester White said: And who's fault is that? Even though the tories admitted the prisons were full, i think uncle RW thinks liebour are making it up Quote
royal white Posted August 7, 2024 Author Posted August 7, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Winchester White said: And who's fault is that? The coppers for catching to many bad people. Yes we know whose fault it is, and they’re gone now, so I was hoping the grown ups might have had a bit of a better plan. Obviously not. Edited August 7, 2024 by royal white Quote
Winchester White Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 Just now, Casino said: Even though the tories admitted the prisons were full, i think uncle RW thinks liebour are making it up Anyone with a brain cell knows you need spare capacity in prisons of all types as you get peaks and troughs. Running at over 95% permanently is dangerous. Quote
Winchester White Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 1 minute ago, royal white said: The coppers for catching to many bad people. Yes we know whose fault it is, and they’re gone now, so I was hoping the grown ups might have had a bit of a better plan. Obviously not. I really don't want to sound like Cheese FFS, but what's your plan? I don't offer much in the way either but I know it has been underfunded for too long. Quote
Guest Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, royal white said: The coppers for catching to many bad people. Yes we know whose fault it is, and they’re gone now, so I was hoping the grown ups might have had a bit of a better plan. Obviously not. They managed to fast track completion of 560 extra spaces. What sort of plan is possible - they need to build more prisons it’s going to take a bit longer than 4 weeks. Quote
Guest Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 Just now, Winchester White said: I really don't want to sound like Cheese FFS, but what's your plan? I don't offer much in the way either but I know it has been underfunded for too long. Money is in the budget to build prisons. The Tories wouldn’t because they were worried about upsetting voters. Quote
wakey Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 1 hour ago, royal white said: And if you look at the figures between the last 2 governments you will see the Conservative Party built more. Figures on the link show drop from 2010 onwards. Unless you mean the Tories built more than Labour have managed in the last 4 weeks, in which case you're bob on. Quote
royal white Posted August 7, 2024 Author Posted August 7, 2024 Just now, Winchester White said: I really don't want to sound like Cheese FFS, but what's your plan? I don't offer much in the way either but I know it has been underfunded for too long. That would be for the grown ups to discuss, but how about those being jailed for what would be classed as lesser crimes being placed on a tag and then jailed at a later date? Quote
royal white Posted August 7, 2024 Author Posted August 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, wakey said: Figures on the link show drop from 2010 onwards. Unless you mean the Tories built more than Labour have managed in the last 4 weeks, in which case you're bob on. Under Labour, between 1997 and 2010 there were 2,780 council homes built with a peak of 320 in 2010. Since then, there have been 10,310 homes built by councils, giving the Conservatives an even more handsome win than Ms May suggested. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 23 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said: While that fella may be an idiot, you’d have to have your head buried in the sand to believe Islam isn’t causing issues in the uk. A lot of people have deep concerns about the rates of immigration in this country. The lefts only answer seems to be to call them all fascists which is just stoking an ever growing fire. I'm 46. I went to a school in Bolton that was 50/50 British Muslim. That was from 89 -94. No issue here, no issue then. Anyone who decides to 'protest' needs to firstly, understand immigration and how it works across western countries, secondly read a bit of history (not much but an understanding should do) and then thirdly not smash stuff up because you are A) bored B poor C) see A and B Quote
wakey Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Under Labour, between 1997 and 2010 there were 2,780 council homes built with a peak of 320 in 2010. Since then, there have been 10,310 homes built by councils, giving the Conservatives an even more handsome win than Ms May suggested. No idea where that's from. I looked at the chart on the link I thought you were referencing. Quote
London Wanderer Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 Great turnout tonight and seems peaceful from the vast majority. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13720171/Britain-fights-Counter-protesters-outnumber-rioting-thugs-towns-country-UK-braces-night-100-far-right-demos-biggest-police-mobilisation-2011.html Quote
Farrelli Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cheese said: It's always the same. "The Muslims I personally know are all fine, it's the ones I don't personally know that are dangerous." Fucking idiots. Two tier sharia Edited August 7, 2024 by Farrelli Quote
Guest Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 6 minutes ago, royal white said: Under Labour, between 1997 and 2010 there were 2,780 council homes built with a peak of 320 in 2010. Since then, there have been 10,310 homes built by councils, giving the Conservatives an even more handsome win than Ms May suggested. Government built which is irrelevant, we are talking social housing most of which is housing association and that’s what matters. Wasn’t exactly stellar up to 2010 but fallen off a cliff since. Completely abandoned the white working class communities since 2010 in every way. Quote
royal white Posted August 7, 2024 Author Posted August 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Government built which is irrelevant, we are talking social housing most of which is housing association and that’s what matters. Wasn’t exactly stellar up to 2010 but fallen off a cliff since. Completely abandoned the white working class communities since 2010 in every way. It doesn’t just appear, and seeing as though many were sold off by Maggie you would have thought both governments would have tried to replace them. Both did poor at that, Labour were poorer. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 6 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Government built which is irrelevant, we are talking social housing most of which is housing association and that’s what matters. Wasn’t exactly stellar up to 2010 but fallen off a cliff since. Completely abandoned the white working class communities since 2010 in every way. Why are you bothering? You'll end up with another excuse. Quote
Farrelli Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 21 minutes ago, royal white said: The coppers for catching to many bad people. Yes we know whose fault it is, and they’re gone now, so I was hoping the grown ups might have had a bit of a better plan. Obviously not. Labour have achieved more in a month than the last three PMs put together. We need to build prisons but it didn’t happen for 14 years of inept Tory governments. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, royal white said: It doesn’t just appear, and seeing as though many were sold off by Maggie you would have thought both governments would have tried to replace them. Both did poor at that, Labour were poorer. They really weren't - but facts and history and logic aren't what you do. Prove us wrong. Quote
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