Meanwhile In England

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

https://england.shelter.org.uk/support_us/campaigns/social_housing_deficit

And if you look at the figures between the last 2 governments you will see the Conservative Party built more. 
 

Still not answered the question 

[frank_spencer]

24 minutes ago, royal white said:

So rent private. I’m guessing they’re all coming over with a few grand in their pocket to get started then 

As immigrants they'll need a few quid to get a visa to move here. Not sure on the exact money but they'll have more than enough for down payment for a rented place.

[Ani]

10 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think we could find it difficult to legally defend granting a right to remain to people who in ordinary circumstances would have no legal right to be here ahead of people who apply via the appropriate channels

You would have a point maybe if I had said that.

Where have mentioned people having no legal right ? I talked about people who had applied for asylum and been accepted. 

[Gonk]

3 hours ago, Traf said:

Company director?

He works for his dad fitting flat pack kitchens FFS.
Any cunt can be a company director. I'm the MD at our place.

And you're not even the one in charge

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think we could find it difficult to legally defend granting a right to remain to people who in ordinary circumstances would have no legal right to be here ahead of people who apply via the appropriate channels

If you qualify for asylum you have a right to be here. Indeed there isn’t in international law anything illegal about their entry until their asylum claim is legally rejected. 

Edited August 7, 2024 by bwfcfan5

[little whitt]

23 minutes ago, Spider said:

Tonight was always going to be a non event

Its Wednesday.

Footy back at the weekend so I’d say we’ve seen the last of this years rioting now

Wait Till Bank Holiday Weekend 

[Ani]

1 minute ago, little whitt said:

Wait Till Bank Holiday Weekend 

Charlton away

[crawshawbooth]

56 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I had a really eye opening conversation t'other week with a couple of Romanians at work... although settled over here and paying their taxes they don't use (or trust) our NHS... if they or their family need anything medical they go home for it, shorter waiting lists and better hospitals and dentists... therefore they are not a drain on the NHS

Lots of people wont believe this , but i work with lots of Eastern Europeans and in my experience it is true .

Worked with half a dozen in the last 18 months that needed long term treatment and have left the job and gone back home.

Other side of the coin is our raygun community who almost live at Bolton A & E with their multiple children

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

14 minutes ago, Ani said:

You would have a point maybe if I had said that.

Where have mentioned people having no legal right ? I talked about people who had applied for asylum and been accepted. 

 

10 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

If you qualify for asylum you have a right to be here. Indeed there isn’t in international law anything illegal about their entry until their asylum claim is legally rejected. 

I thought the point being made was about people who are here but hadn't yet had an application for asylum accepted, or who might not qualify for asylum

The post I initially replied to certainly mentioned asylum seekers as opposed to refugees anyway

[Not in Crawley]

Two cancelled shows tonight in Sunderland and Newcastle whilst trying to retain some sort of holiday.

Bloody annoying to say the least.

[Ani]

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

 

I thought the point being made was about people who are here but hadn't yet had an application for asylum accepted, or who might not qualify for asylum

The post I initially replied to certainly mentioned asylum seekers as opposed to refugees anyway

I talked about asylum seekers, whilst they are waiting to be processed rather than sitting about unable to work offer them the option to train for the jobs that we need to fill. If they are succesful they have somewhere to go, rather than bringing more people in. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, Ani said:

I talked about asylum seekers, whilst they are waiting to be processed rather than sitting about unable to work offer them the option to train for the jobs that we need to fill. If they are succesful they have somewhere to go, rather than bringing more people in. 

So people awaiting a decision on their application rather than necessarily people who'd applied for asylum and been accepted then

Well, asylum seekers who've been here over twelve months do have a right to work

But if it skilled work I think companies would be reluctant to train people without some kind of guarantee the trainee has a future in the country

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

 

I thought the point being made was about people who are here but hadn't yet had an application for asylum accepted, or who might not qualify for asylum

The post I initially replied to certainly mentioned asylum seekers as opposed to refugees anyway

People who are here have a right to remain until their application is decided….they are legally here until processed and decided asylum status not valid. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, bwfcfan5 said:

People who are here have a right to remain until their application is decided….they are legally here until processed and decided asylum status not valid. 

I know mate, I know - I've never disputed that

[Ani]

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

So people awaiting a decision on their application rather than necessarily people who'd applied for asylum and been accepted then

Well, asylum seekers who've been here over twelve months do have a right to work

But if it skilled work I think companies would be reluctant to train people without some kind of guarantee the trainee has a future in the country

Why are you making this complicated ? I am not talking about training scientists , I am talking about basic skills so they can jobs such as cleaners etc . 
 

So if accepted they can work and contribute, this means we do not need to bring in more people in. If they do not have basic skills when their application is approved what will they do ? No job as no skills, and we keep bringing 685k per year in.

Clearly if you have a different idea rather than just being negative be lovely to hear it . 

[Alf Hartigan]

19 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

If you think that pussyfooting about is shocking, you must have missed the miner's strike then?

Didn't see anyone get smashed in the face with a truncheon or beaten within an inch of their lives....

I was in the police (Cheshire) 89-2000. Always told that the miners strike was an embarrassment (for the police) especially by the met and South Yorkshire forces. They got some good overtime though 

[only1swanny]

8 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

So people awaiting a decision on their application rather than necessarily people who'd applied for asylum and been accepted then

Well, asylum seekers who've been here over twelve months do have a right to work

But if it skilled work I think companies would be reluctant to train people without some kind of guarantee the trainee has a future in the country

Why? Nationality doesn't breed loyalty anyway, as long as they're productive during that period. 

[Winchester White]

31 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

Lots of people wont believe this , but i work with lots of Eastern Europeans and in my experience it is true .

Worked with half a dozen in the last 18 months that needed long term treatment and have left the job and gone back home.

Other side of the coin is our raygun community who almost live at Bolton A & E with their multiple children

Yeah course they do, they almost live at Bolton A&E. Do you realise how stupid that sounds?

Not saying there aren't issues but come on, stop with the exaggerated bollocks.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

13 minutes ago, Ani said:

Why are you making this complicated ? I am not talking about training scientists , I am talking about basic skills so they can jobs such as cleaners etc . 
 

So if accepted they can work and contribute, this means we do not need to bring in more people in. If they do not have basic skills when their application is approved what will they do ? No job as no skills, and we keep bringing 685k per year in.

Clearly if you have a different idea rather than just being negative be lovely to hear it . 

I'm not making it complicated, I just misunderstood the point you were making

From reading the original post, I assumed you meant we'd be granting a right to stay to people who hadn't had an application for asylum granted (or might ordinarily have their claim rejected) as a way to kill two birds with one stone i.e. reduce/eliminate the asylum backlogand help to fill any skills shortage

Clearly, you didn't mean that, but I was confused further because you then stated you were referring specifically to people who'd been granted asylum before then going back once again to asylum seekers generally

But asylum seekers who've been here for twelve months can apply for permission to work so I suppose what you're asking for can already happen anyway

I'll leave it there because it's become more tedious than a Cheese/Royal White point scoring contest

[Cheese]

36 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

Lots of people wont believe this , but i work with lots of Eastern Europeans and in my experience it is true .

Worked with half a dozen in the last 18 months that needed long term treatment and have left the job and gone back home.

Other side of the coin is our raygun community who almost live at Bolton A & E with their multiple children

Why do you spend so much time in A&E?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

15 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Why? Nationality doesn't breed loyalty anyway, as long as they're productive during that period. 

I've not mentioned anything about loyalty

[Cheese]

One thing we can take away from all this, is that every single person involved in/excusing these "Enough is Enough" riots is thick as fuck. I mean properly thick. On the verge of being registered mentally disabled. Every single one of them. And I'm sure the likes of "Tommy" and Farage are well aware of this.

Edited August 7, 2024 by Cheese

[frank_spencer]

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Why do you spend so much time in A&E?

Hoping to spot them defacing a poppy memorial

[Winchester White]

@gonzo were the fook is this?

Needs a bit of work that roundabout 

Edited August 7, 2024 by Winchester White

[CumbrianWhite]

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

It's always the same. "The Muslims I personally know are all fine, it's the ones I don't personally know that are dangerous." Fucking idiots.

 

While that fella may be an idiot, you’d have to have your head buried in the sand to believe Islam isn’t causing issues in the uk. 
 

A lot of people have deep concerns about the rates of immigration in this country. The lefts only answer seems to be to call them all fascists which is just stoking an ever growing fire.