mickbrown Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, birch-chorley said: To be fair, I thought that’s what we locked down in March for... More ventilators, Extra beds (nightingales), Bring doctors and nurses back to increase headcount, learn how to treat the virus, build a track and trace system etc etc Seems to me like we are in the same boat as we were in March by all accounts. Let’s hope this vaccine comes quick and works or we could be back here 3 or 4 times yet That's the concern for me. We don't seem to have learned anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Vino. You can buy me whatever you like. I'll sup owt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, mickbrown said: He a tight twat then? Deflection! No, he sent masks to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, mickbrown said: That's the concern for me. We don't seem to have learned anything. Groundhog Day I was genuinely all right with the first lockdown, we were clearly not ready for it at all we’ve been talking about a second wave in the Autumn for 6 months yet it’s like a big surprise Colossal fuck up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Deflection! No, he sent masks to me. I owe you one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: That's the concern for me. We don't seem to have learned anything. What are we to learn? Far east does it better. Yes. Is their population generally far more compliant and respectful? Yes. Are western nations all struggling, and having sections of the population actively fighting against virtually everything, including the very existence of the virus? Yes. Is it any wonder Western nations are struggling? Fuck no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I owe you one? Dear me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Groundhog Day I was genuinely all right with the first lockdown, we were clearly not ready for it at all we’ve been talking about a second wave in the Autumn for 6 months yet it’s like a big surprise Colossal fuck up Are you surprised, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: What are we to learn? Far east does it better. Yes. Is their population generally far more compliant and respectful? Yes. Are western nations all struggling, and having sections of the population actively fighting against virtually everything, including the very existence of the virus? Yes. Is it any wonder Western nations are struggling? Fuck no. Heard someone on TV saying that in the east they take a SARS approach, whereas we've taken a flu approach. That is they test, track, trace and islolate like bastards whereas we treat and wait for a vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Dear me. Lost me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, Escobarp said: You think the same folk who’ve caused this will obey this? Not a chance. Army on the streets. Hard line approach needed Universities,schools, carehomes and hospitals are the biggest hotbeds. People not obeying rules is well down on the list as to why its spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, mickbrown said: Heard someone on TV saying that in the east they take a SARS approach, whereas we've taken a flu approach. That is they test, track, trace and islolate like bastards whereas we treat and wait for a vaccine. Indeed. Doesn't matter a great deal how good or otherwise your test and trace is though, if buggers refuse to isolate. Just think how easily one cunt could infect loads of others during that time. Also remember places like Korea were geared up for t and t following their experiences with stars and mers. Clearly now a debate as to whether we ensure we are set up similarly going forward, but that wasn't what Whitty was presented with when it kicked off here. He had to fight the fire with a watering can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Lost me I'm beginning to believe you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: I'm beginning to believe you. Still none the wiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Universities,schools, carehomes and hospitals are the biggest hotbeds. People not obeying rules is well down on the list as to why its spread. So you would be happy if he shut the schools mate yes? Kids at home no education? Genuine question that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Heard someone on TV saying that in the east they take a SARS approach, whereas we've taken a flu approach. That is they test, track, trace and islolate like bastards whereas we treat and wait for a vaccine. Think you're spot on pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Are you surprised, really? Yes I can forgive the first lockdown, we just weren’t ready like the Asian countries 6 months on, £400bn spent and we seem to be back to square 1 Shit show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Universities,schools, carehomes and hospitals are the biggest hotbeds. People not obeying rules is well down on the list as to why its spread. Kids don't get it from pubs, workplaces, carehomes or hospitals though. They get it from other kids or households generally. If the community transmission by adults was lower then the transmission by the youngsters would be lower. Went in a butty shop today. They've spent a pretty penny on all sorts of measures. Three staff. None with facial protection. 4 adults as customers, only me and another bloke with a mask. 2 children neither with a mask. I was the only one that neither wandered around the shop nor touched anything like chairs, walls, etc. I made a point of watching their behaviour. None of the surfaces were cleaned, understandably, and none of the other customers cleaned their hands upon leaving, so would potentially be touching their face soon after. Its so easy to see why this thing transmits so easily. People aren't following the very basic rules that were highlighted at the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 39 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Why? So just do what you want yes? It’s why we are where we are that Looking at the presentation Cornwall was bottom of everything, no increases in infection rate etc etc. They took the view that people living there had behaved properly and being forced to lockdown and shut everything because that wasn't the case elsewhere would leave you feeling like saying fuck off. Like I said, without looking into it more I don't know if it's fair enough or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Occasionally in our rants on here people refer to our absentee police fo- service or the laughable PCSO service and then troops on the streets will sort it out just asking for a friend , do we actually have any troops these days? back growing up everybody had a mate , brother , cousin in the army now i dont know anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, crawshawbooth said: Occasionally in our rants on here people refer to our absentee police fo- service or the laughable PCSO service and then troops on the streets will sort it out just asking for a friend , do we actually have any troops these days? back growing up everybody had a mate , brother , cousin in the army now i dont know anybody. You just won’t have seen them mate. All leave has been cancelled for about 4 years apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Yes I can forgive the first lockdown, we just weren’t ready like the Asian countries 6 months on, £400bn spent and we seem to be back to square 1 Shit show Could spend double and it wouldn't make any difference, apart from maybe a bit slower. Not surprised in the slightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I also though this virus didn’t exist? Looks pretty real to me the stats currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said: Occasionally in our rants on here people refer to our absentee police fo- service or the laughable PCSO service and then troops on the streets will sort it out just asking for a friend , do we actually have any troops these days? back growing up everybody had a mate , brother , cousin in the army now i dont know anybody. I was pleased to hear they are being mobilised with the roll out of this new testing equipment. Lad would love it if a tank pulled up with a few new machines at his school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I was pleased to hear they are being mobilised with the roll out of this new testing equipment. Lad would love it if a tank pulled up with a few new machines at his school. I'm calling Boris bullshit on that one. File alongside track and trace being ready in June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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