Wanderlust Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 I had to listen to this game on the radio on a phone as I was driving the campervan back to England - and I nearly crashed the f***** - so I only actually saw "the highlights" later. Part of me was saying "it's been coming for a few weeks now" inasmuch that we have ridden our luck a bit in quite a few games and part of me was outraged a la Evatt. But now I've calmed down a bit, I'm still just about in the "we're still in it with a chance" camp - helped by other results. What I can't get away from though, is the absolute dread of f***ing it up having been in a dominant position not so long ago. Top spot is no longer "in our own hands" - unless we're banking on beating Pompey (whose hands it is in), second spot still is (it's also in Derby's if they beat us at their place) but with our fixture list and recent performances my confidence is shot. Whatever happens now, it's been an emotional roller coaster of a season and unless we can find another gear it's likely to continue that way. FWIW I thought Santos' challenge was unnecessary and stupid and I'd be surprised if the red is overturned. Quote
Casino Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Wanderlust said: FWIW I thought Santos' challenge was unnecessary and stupid and I'd be surprised if the red is overturned. While I would also be surprised I cant see how they will justify not overturning it Quote
L/H White Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 possible we could play these over 2 legs in the playoffs Quote
L/H White Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 I was in a bad way yesterday, great day out bar the result Quote
MickyD Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 9 minutes ago, L/H White said: I was in a bad way yesterday, great day out bar the result Absolutely this. A couple of hours of football to break up a decent drinking session. Tuesday night won’t get that. Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 13 minutes ago, MickyD said: Absolutely this. A couple of hours of football to break up a decent drinking session. Tuesday night won’t get that. I’m absolutely determined to have a few pints before the game to numb the pain a little bit. Quote
Wanderlust Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Casino said: While I would also be surprised I cant see how they will justify not overturning it Interpretation of whether or not he could have actually got the ball without going through the lad I suppose. I reckon he could just about have got it, but not sure they'll see it that way.Also not sure if it was an obvious scoring opportunity given the angle and Santos' presence, but we'll see. Edited February 26, 2024 by Wanderlust Quote
Ani Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 2 hours ago, L/H White said: I was in a bad way yesterday, great day out bar the result I drove, it was shit all round (and shit all over !). Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 33 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: Interpretation of whether or not he could have actually got the ball without going through the lad I suppose. I reckon he could just about have got it, but not sure they'll see it that way.Also not sure if it was an obvious scoring opportunity given the angle and Santos' presence, but we'll see. It was absolutely an attempt to play the ball. The Blackpool player wasn’t even in the picture when Santos started his slide but was smart enough to just get himself in the way and take the contact. Quote
Wanderlust Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 35 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: It was absolutely an attempt to play the ball. The Blackpool player wasn’t even in the picture when Santos started his slide but was smart enough to just get himself in the way and take the contact. I thought so too but it's not up to me to decide unfortunately. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 4 hours ago, Casino said: While I would also be surprised I cant see how they will justify not overturning it ... apart from him leaving the ground to tackle a guy from behind and taking a foot/ankle ? That's quite separate from whether he needed to tackle him at all. Quote
Casino Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Dr. Feelgood said: ... apart from him leaving the ground to tackle a guy from behind and taking a foot/ankle ? That's quite separate from whether he needed to tackle him at all. if the referee views it as a genuine attempt to get the ball, then its not a red card Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 Whenever you're stretching for the ball like he did, there is inevitably a short period of time where both feet are off the ground. It was clearly a stretch for the ball though, and not a dangerous lunge, where man or ball are equally targeted. His right leg though does follow through- as it inevitably would- it looks worse. Quote
Eddie Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 When will we find out? Is it the same rule that’s currently allowing Evatt to be on the touchline - I.e if you’ve appealed and not yet had a decision then you’re free to play? (How long does it take to confirm Evatt’s charge by the way!!? Fucking useless the lot of them) Quote
Steejay Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Eddie said: When will we find out? Is it the same rule that’s currently allowing Evatt to be on the touchline - I.e if you’ve appealed and not yet had a decision then you’re free to play? (How long does it take to confirm Evatt’s charge by the way!!? Fucking useless the lot of them) Evatt’s charge is being adjudged on Wednesday. Quote
Traf Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Steejay said: Evatt’s charge is being adjudged on Wednesday. By Paul Warne, James MacLean and Dave Whelan's lad. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 6 minutes ago, Eddie said: When will we find out? Is it the same rule that’s currently allowing Evatt to be on the touchline - I.e if you’ve appealed and not yet had a decision then you’re free to play? (How long does it take to confirm Evatt’s charge by the way!!? Fucking useless the lot of them) You'd hope that would be the case So if we appeal and lets say he can't play till the hearing, misses out on Wigan and we win the appeal then he's still been banned effectively Quote
Eddie Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 13 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: You'd hope that would be the case So if we appeal and lets say he can't play till the hearing, misses out on Wigan and we win the appeal then he's still been banned effectively Yeah good point. Doesn’t seem to be any mention of it anywhere in terms of timings so I suppose it’ll just be a case of let’s see who’s on the team sheet. If he is playing then I hope he’s looking a bit sharper than on Saturday! Quote
dave2980 Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 8 minutes ago, Eddie said: Yeah good point. Doesn’t seem to be any mention of it anywhere in terms of timings so I suppose it’ll just be a case of let’s see who’s on the team sheet. If he is playing then I hope he’s looking a bit sharper than on Saturday! The appeal was being heard/reviewed this afternoon Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 4 hours ago, Casino said: if the referee views it as a genuine attempt to get the ball, then its not a red card Unless he views it as dangerous. He jumped in, both feet were off the ground. The referee's decision was red. One must assume he didn't view it as innocent. No way is any panel going to overturn it. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Unless he views it as dangerous. He jumped in, both feet were off the ground. The referee's decision was red. One must assume he didn't view it as innocent. No way is any panel going to overturn it. That's more or less where I am Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 Only my opinion but watching that challenge in normal time, if that's deemed serious foul play or dangerous, I give up. May as well give every foul that's a genuine attempt to play the ball as a sending off. I'm staggered about the whole thing, I must be watching a different challenge. If only we'd had that ref (in our favour) for the Wigan home game, we would have been playing v 10 men for the last 85 minutes. Quote
Dr Faustus Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 @gonzo hope lads had a good day at school- i'd know i'd be bricking it. mad how divisive a game can be amongst adults let alone kids Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted February 27, 2024 Posted February 27, 2024 8 hours ago, Dr Faustus said: @gonzo hope lads had a good day at school- i'd know i'd be bricking it. mad how divisive a game can be amongst adults let alone kids I pulled a sicky the day after Black Sunday Quote
Duck Egg Posted February 27, 2024 Author Posted February 27, 2024 9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Only my opinion but watching that challenge in normal time, if that's deemed serious foul play or dangerous, I give up. May as well give every foul that's a genuine attempt to play the ball as a sending off. I'm staggered about the whole thing, I must be watching a different challenge. If only we'd had that ref (in our favour) for the Wigan home game, we would have been playing v 10 men for the last 85 minutes. Thank feck. I was thinking I'd been living in a parallel universe reading some interpretations on here. As I saw it, in real time at the game, Santos had to make the challenge. I could see it was tight whether he got there first. Based on the previous hours play, I also knew if the ref was coming down either side of a 50/50 decision, he was going their way. But a sending off too? Get to feck. Quote
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