Trotters

[bolty58]

Anyone ever heard this before? It's not April 1st is it?

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/5882954.just-where-did-the-name-the-trotters-come-from/#:~:text=After one particular episode (when,the years has also been

[Leyther_Matt]

Not heard it as specific a tale as that, but a few years over the years I’ve read theories that the nickname related to practical jokes, so there could be something in it 

[jayjayoghani]

The shite at the bottom of my brain 

https://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/8768-trotters/#comment-69576

[Tonge moor green jacket]

44 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Not heard it as specific a tale as that, but a few years over the years I’ve read theories that the nickname related to practical jokes, so there could be something in it 

This. 

 

[Krimzon]

The only other thing I heard , being from East Lancs is that people from Bolton were famous for eating Pigs trotters as a "delicacy" with black peas. 

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, Krimzon said:

The only other thing I heard , being from East Lancs is that people from Bolton were famous for eating Pigs trotters as a "delicacy" with black peas. 

My grandad brought me up. He was watching "th'Wanderers" well before we won our first FA Cup. When I asked him about our nickname when I became a committed fan at eight years old, he advised me that the nickname came from visiting fans commenting on the excellent pigs trotters for sale all around Burnden. "Away at Bolton Wanderers" was supplanted by "Going to the trotters" when fans of other teams were asked who they were playing next weekend.

My grandad wouldn't lie to me even though he did used to tell me that during the war he had to kill a Nazi and bring his helmet to the NAAFI to get breakfast. No nazi helmet, no breakfast. He was an artillery gunner protecting Carlisle rail yards. "He never even saw a bloody German. He'd have run a bloody mile" was my grandmothers response 

[Krimzon]

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

My grandad brought me up. He was watching "th'Wanderers" well before we won our first FA Cup. When I asked him about our nickname when I became a committed fan at eight years old, he advised me that the nickname came from visiting fans commenting on the excellent pigs trotters for sale all around Burnden. "Away at Bolton Wanderers" was supplanted by "Going to the trotters" when fans of other teams were asked who they were playing next weekend.

My grandad wouldn't lie to me even though he did used to tell me that during the war he had to kill a Nazi and bring his helmet to the NAAFI to get breakfast. No nazi helmet, no breakfast. He was an artillery gunner protecting Carlisle rail yards. "He never even saw a bloody German. He'd have run a bloody mile" was my grandmothers response 

Tho Ive heard the "practical jokers" bit I can believe this .

I remember going to me Granmas and she was still making cow heel stew  (which I hated) , Padiham side of Burnley . Maybe compared to that , Roast pigs trotters with Black peas would have seemed like a proper feed . 

[tomski]

Heard both claims over the years and have come to the conclusion it’s a bit of both or in my head anyway.

[bolty58]

17 hours ago, Krimzon said:

Tho Ive heard the "practical jokers" bit I can believe this .

I remember going to me Granmas and she was still making cow heel stew  (which I hated) , Padiham side of Burnley . Maybe compared to that , Roast pigs trotters with Black peas would have seemed like a proper feed . 

Cow heel pie was me grandads favourite. I can still see him sucking the juices out of all of the bones which looked like me mams pumice stone to me. Happy as a sandboy.

It wasn't the sucking and slurping that put me off even trying it. It was the look of it when taken out of the butchers wrapper. Horrendous looking splodge of fat and gristle which I would probably now describe as a dried out placenta!

He reckoned the flavour was beyond compare. I can think of one thing that tastes better without even trying.

Edited December 13, 2024 by bolty58

[Dimron]

In local dialect "trotting" was playing practical jokes.

Whist Pie anyone? Do you know what a Whist Drive actually was?

[gonzo]

Best joke they ever pulled was us not beating that shower of fuck pigs from down the road in 10 years.

[Krimzon]

10 hours ago, Dimron said:

In local dialect "trotting" was playing practical jokes.

Whist Pie anyone? Do you know what a Whist Drive actually was?

The only time I heard of Whist was as a card game. So as a kid I always imagined a whist drive was a lot of WI types sat round playing Bridge or Canasta . 

[Casino]

Would having a whist pie on christmas dinner be worse than mushy peas?

[Tony]

This is terrible, they are all over us.

We can't string 2 passes together.

[Dimron]

5 hours ago, Krimzon said:

The only time I heard of Whist was as a card game. So as a kid I always imagined a whist drive was a lot of WI types sat round playing Bridge or Canasta . 

I read in a local history book many moons ago that a "Whist Drive" was when they drove the pack ponies across the Lancashire plain carrying cotton from Liverpool to be spun in the foothills of the Pennines before the canais  and railways were built and the "Whist Pie" was the pack up that the drovers carried. I can't recall whether it explained where the word Whist came from.

Incidentally the Lancashire Heeler AKA the Ormskirk Terrier was a product of these drives... the drovers had black and tan Manchester Terriers with them which interbred with the local Shepherds' Corgis

[Krimzon]

48 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I read in a local history book many moons ago that a "Whist Drive" was when they drove the pack ponies across the Lancashire plain carrying cotton from Liverpool to be spun in the foothills of the Pennines before the canais  and railways were built and the "Whist Pie" was the pack up that the drovers carried. I can't recall whether it explained where the word Whist came from.

Incidentally the Lancashire Heeler AKA the Ormskirk Terrier was a product of these drives... the drovers had black and tan Manchester Terriers with them which interbred with the local Shepherds' Corgis

I was pretty confident that it had nothing to do with card games , but Ive taught knockout Whist to lots of friends and family , its a really good game and can be used to gamble small stakes with the use of lives so players dont get booted out too soon . Me Grandma taught it to me and we played for match sticks . Later on we played for wine gums. 

I cant begin to guess what goes in a "whist pie" back in those days , pigeon & rat , if I had too . 

[Krimzon]

6 hours ago, Casino said:

Would having a whist pie on christmas dinner be worse than mushy peas?

One and only time that happened to be was when i was seeing a girl from Blackpool and went to her family for the meal  . Mushy Peas on a Christmas Dinner ....I blamed Gonzo. 

[Wullie]

Funny how we all have different stories. My Grandad said it was because they used to train by running through the town whilst on a training run, and people who saw them said they were "trotting, like ponies". He said it was nowt to do with pigs trotters. But who knows, somethings are lost to time and memory

[Sweep]

On 12/12/2024 at 07:25, Leyther_Matt said:

Not heard it as specific a tale as that, but a few years over the years I’ve read theories that the nickname related to practical jokes, so there could be something in it 

Same, I'd always heard it was about playing practical jokes

Edited December 14, 2024 by Sweep