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[Eddie]

Horrendous goal to concede

[Dr. Feelgood]

We have, for a very long time, failed to really bring youth through. Obviously some but nowhere near enough.

As a manager you are either someone who does, or who doesn't. That must have an impact on who youngster sign with.

[Wanderlust]

We’re fishing in an empty pond when it comes to recruiting talented youngsters.

There are at least 6 EPL clubs who are picking the cream when they are still foetuses so at best we can get a rare late developer.

[Leyther_Matt]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

We’re fishing in an empty pond when it comes to recruiting talented youngsters.

There are at least 6 EPL clubs who are picking the cream when they are still foetuses so at best we can get a rare late developer.

That was absolutely been the plan in neglecting the younger ages and having the B team. And yet, for whatever reason, we’ve not had a sniff out of that market whereas it has effectively kept Latics in business for the last few years. 

[Ratwhite]

6 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

That was absolutely been the plan in neglecting the younger ages and having the B team. And yet, for whatever reason, we’ve not had a sniff out of that market whereas it has effectively kept Latics in business for the last few years. 

My nephew is 13, been scouted by Man U, Everton and (wait for it) Wigan, whilst playing most of the games in... Bolton!

[waffer cup 07]

Any game that Wrexham lose is a good thing in my book.  Little club playing at being billy big bollocks.

[Only In Welsh]

Honestly, glad we went out. The absolute media toss fest and circus that a Brum v Wrexham final would've created would've been a huge distraction. And annoying. Its not only fans of other club who get annoyed at the media circus that follows us.

I still think Saturday will be a belter. Defeat last night will mean Parky will have read the riot act and I'll be amazed if we don't come flying out from the off and be really aggressive. 

Probably be 0-0 now I've said that. 

[woolli]

4 minutes ago, Only In Welsh said:

Honestly, glad we went out. The absolute media toss fest and circus that a Brum v Wrexham final would've created would've been a huge distraction. And annoying. Its not only fans of other club who get annoyed at the media circus that follows us.

I still think Saturday will be a belter. Defeat last night will mean Parky will have read the riot act and I'll be amazed if we don't come flying out from the off and be really aggressive. 

Probably be 0-0 now I've said that. 

I bet you werent glad you was out when you was all singing " Wemberlee" on 90 minutes? If your 2 minutes from wembley, and your glad your out, first i dont believe you, and secondly, give your head a wobble!

[Johnnyrotten]

26 minutes ago, Only In Welsh said:

Honestly, glad we went out. The absolute media toss fest and circus that a Brum v Wrexham final would've created would've been a huge distraction. And annoying. Its not only fans of other club who get annoyed at the media circus that follows us.

I still think Saturday will be a belter. Defeat last night will mean Parky will have read the riot act and I'll be amazed if we don't come flying out from the off and be really aggressive. 

Probably be 0-0 now I've said that. 

Fair comments.  Did Parky pick a similar strength team to the previous round against us?  Faal scored which tells me he didn't pick his main strikers?

[Whitesince63]

46 minutes ago, Only In Welsh said:

Honestly, glad we went out. The absolute media toss fest and circus that a Brum v Wrexham final would've created would've been a huge distraction. And annoying. Its not only fans of other club who get annoyed at the media circus that follows us.

I still think Saturday will be a belter. Defeat last night will mean Parky will have read the riot act and I'll be amazed if we don't come flying out from the off and be really aggressive. 

Probably be 0-0 now I've said that. 

I’m not sure it’s Parkys way to come flying out of the box Welsh, I don’t think he’ll change the way he plays whatever happened last night. To be fair to Posh they were better than you and really shouldn’t have been behind anyway so in the end the result reflected the game. Obviously it will be a totally different team on Saturday but still one that slipped up to Orient so maybe you’ve hit your peak and you’ve been found out a bit?

[Traf]

33 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Fair comments.  Did Parky pick a similar strength team to the previous round against us?  Faal scored which tells me he didn't pick his main strikers?

Mullen came on in the second half and then missed a pen, as did Rob Lee's lad.

[Pablo]

4 hours ago, Ratwhite said:

My nephew is 13, been scouted by Man U, Everton and (wait for it) Wigan, whilst playing most of the games in... Bolton!

 

Wigan have an excellent academy, one of the best around in this area, they have great reach and a very good reputation. They have been all over Bolton for years.

[W.cramp]

22 minutes ago, Pablo said:

 

Wigan have an excellent academy, one of the best around in this area, they have great reach and a very good reputation. They have been all over Bolton for years.

Tis true I,m afraid,   my 13 y.o nephew has been at wiggin for a few years,  he had choices including bolton but this was pre football ventures time and the facilities etc were shocking compared to wiggin.   

[Tonge moor green jacket]

25 minutes ago, Pablo said:

 

Wigan have an excellent academy, one of the best around in this area, they have great reach and a very good reputation. They have been all over Bolton for years.

Which disproves the idea that the big clubs grab everyone, and that we're fishing in an empty pond.

It's the responsibility of the club to get the set up right.

[Dr Faustus]

5 hours ago, Ratwhite said:

My nephew is 13, been scouted by Man U, Everton and (wait for it) Wigan, whilst playing most of the games in... Bolton!

same with my lad- offers from Burnley, Wigan and Man City... all his grass roots games played at the Arena, sponsored by BWFC; not a scout in sight most weeks

 

14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Which disproves the idea that the big clubs grab everyone, and that we're fishing in an empty pond.

It's the responsibility of the club to get the set up right.

Wigan have a fair few scousers too, think its smidge easier. Bigger clubs have 'select' and 'satellite' squads too; so their academy will 3/4 times the size of Bolton/Burnley/Wigan- majority of kids/parents would rather be in elite than select- Burnley U15s beat Man City select 8-2 last week for example, so numbers are there... but not the necessarily the best

[Cheese]

54 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Wigan have an excellent academy, one of the best around in this area, they have great reach and a very good reputation. They have been all over Bolton for years.

Any club can sign loads of youngsters. It's the return on investment that counts. Have Wigan seen any of that?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

52 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Any club can sign loads of youngsters. It's the return on investment that counts. Have Wigan seen any of that?

Within the last six months or so, they've sold two of their youngsters for reported fees of around £3-3.5M each

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

They also have Jamie Carragher's son at centre-back and Sam Tickle as their goalkeeper

Both came through their Academy, and Sam Tickle will likely be sold in the summer for a similar kind of fee as the other two

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Within the last six months or so, they've sold two of their youngsters for reported fees of around £3-3.5M each

Blimey. Maybe we're missing a trick then. Surely we'd be a more attractive prospect than Wigan.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Blimey. Maybe we're missing a trick then. Surely we'd be a more attractive prospect than Wigan.

We're not

They have a better reputation -understandable given the above - and spend more on their Academy set-up

Theirs is a Category 2 and ours is a Category 3, meaning they have higher qualified coaches and better facilities

But the club is run on a shoestring now and it remains to be seen how long they keep that funding

If they do roll it back, I've made the point before that we should be straight in there to try and take advantage

[Pablo]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Any club can sign loads of youngsters. It's the return on investment that counts. Have Wigan seen any of that?

They have just sold 2 first teamers that come form their set up, for a combined £7 million.

[Pablo]

4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

We're not

They have a better reputation -understandable given the above - and spend more on their Academy set-up

Theirs is a Category 2 and ours is a Category 3, meaning they have higher qualified coaches and better facilities

But the club is run on a shoestring now and it remains to be seen how long they keep that funding

If they do roll it back, I've made the point before that we should be straight in there to try and take advantage

All so very true, its s shame.

The money issues that Bolton had in the last few years almost killed the academy, stripped right down, loads of scouts gone. Not sure how much they have recovered really.

Even when my lad was young, Bury before they want pop had a better reputation for its academy.

Bolton have had some belters too, they just get flogged very early for small amounts.

 

[Pablo]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Any club can sign loads of youngsters. It's the return on investment that counts. Have Wigan seen any of that?

Its such a fine line at that level too.

One Wigan lad was with them from U9's all the way to U18, signed deals the lot, hyped by a few and almost went to America.

Now, he can barely get any mins for Charnock Richard in the NW Counties.

Edited February 27, 2025 by Pablo

[Cheese]

10 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Its such a fine line at that level too.

One Wigan lad was with them from U9's all the way to U18, signed deals the lot, hyped by a few and almost went to America.

Now, he can barely get any mins for Charnock Richard in the NW Counties.

Tricky one innit. Invest in the facilities/coaches hoping to unearth a couple of local gems that have slipped under Man City's radar, or don't bother at all. If it's working for Wigan though, I'd like to think we could at least compete with their system.

[Pablo]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Tricky one innit. Invest in the facilities/coaches hoping to unearth a couple of local gems that have slipped under Man City's radar, or don't bother at all. If it's working for Wigan though, I'd like to think we could at least compete with their system.

 

Some clubs will put loads of time, effort and resources intto it. Like Wigan, Burnley too always been quality and Bury used to, some just dont. Huddersfield once just got rid of the entire acad, all the way to the U21 age, just cancelled every team.

Always bugged me how little Bolton actually do in the town, no prescence at all for years now. Should have this area locked down, making big clubs come knocking on BWFC's door.

 

Edited February 27, 2025 by Pablo