Wrecsam (I Ffwrdd)

[boltonboris]

4 minutes ago, Pablo said:

 

Some clubs will put loads of time, effort and resources intto it. Like Wigan, Burnley too always been quality and Bury used to, some just dont. Huddersfield once just got rid of the entire acad, all the way to the U21 age, just cancelled every team.

Always bugged me how little Bolton actually do in the town, no prescence at all for years now. Should have this area locked down, making big clubs come knocking on BWFC's door.

 

Our scouts don't really do grassroots. They just stand outside Lyttelton Road and Brockhall asking if anyone's been released

[boltonboris]

Whilst it's not strictly true and we do have scouting in place, a lot of those scouts are actually grassroots coaches who also coach for free at the "academy" or are we just operating an ETC? It was School of Excellence when I were a lad and that was on the sand pit at Harper Green

[onefinfrandsen]

3 hours ago, Dr Faustus said:

same with my lad- offers from Burnley, Wigan and Man City... all his grass roots games played at the Arena, sponsored by BWFC; not a scout in sight most weeks

 

Wigan have a fair few scousers too, think its smidge easier. Bigger clubs have 'select' and 'satellite' squads too; so their academy will 3/4 times the size of Bolton/Burnley/Wigan- majority of kids/parents would rather be in elite than select- Burnley U15s beat Man City select 8-2 last week for example, so numbers are there... but not the necessarily the best

Aasgaard came from Liverpools academy to, my lad spent sometime at wigans academy 20 years ago and the majority were scousers , so it’s been like that for a fair few years.

[Whitesince63]

I don’t think you’ll ever get consistency on this because everybody develops at a different pace. Some of the kids who look brilliant when young don’t develop further whilst others improve as they mature. I think the B Team idea was a good one but sadly it hasn’t delivered so far. I think non league is a better pool to pick from but we don’t seem to go there.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

There was no possibility the B Team could start from scratch and begin producing first-team players in just four years, it's incredibly hard to build a reputation in youth football without huge investment

Despite this though, it is moving in the right direction and we might begin to see some tangible benefit in the next few years

A promotion to the Championship would help

[Ratwhite]

5 hours ago, Pablo said:

 

Wigan have an excellent academy, one of the best around in this area, they have great reach and a very good reputation. They have been all over Bolton for years.

Id like to like this, but he's a Man U fan and I've already said "even if he plays for Wigan first team" id go watch him (for fuck sake)

[Dr Faustus]

4 hours ago, boltonboris said:

Our scouts don't really do grassroots. They just stand outside Lyttelton Road and Brockhall asking if anyone's been released

one former Walkden High pupil- Man U released at 12, Burnley released at 16, Bolton signed scholar within the week!

 

1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

I don’t think you’ll ever get consistency on this because everybody develops at a different pace. Some of the kids who look brilliant when young don’t develop further whilst others improve as they mature. I think the B Team idea was a good one but sadly it hasn’t delivered so far. I think non league is a better pool to pick from but we don’t seem to go there.

interesting this- should probably put it in kids thread. Think it was Belgium ran a project to pick up younger players within in each age group. So the likes of Hazard was thriving as he was older player in the group, they had separate teams for those born later in the year... summat like that

 

Mainland Europe run age groups on calendar years, not school years btw... or maybe its the reason why.

 

Cant remember: but Europe different, Hazard good, January birth

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Isn't that something to do with the born in August thing?

[Dr Faustus]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Isn't that something to do with the born in August thing?

over here yeah, we now run off school year- at one point those born in August qualified for the year below; so Aug 24 would play in the same age as those born July 25, despite starting school a year earlier or summat (its been a long week). i'll dig out the article

 

https://www.fifatrainingcentre.com/en/practice/grassroots/global-grassroots-insights/green-bananas.php#

not quite what i was thinking, but look after those late developers; will ripen at different times

Edited February 27, 2025 by Dr Faustus

[Dr. Feelgood]

9 hours ago, Pablo said:

 

Wigan have an excellent academy, one of the best around in this area, they have great reach and a very good reputation. They have been all over Bolton for years.

Made all the more fckg shameful by it being run for years by Gregor Rioch.

I appreciate his dad ran both clubs, but that adds to the hurt.

[bwfc2003]

Dont we have a separate post for academy kids? Or if not can we have one and leave this post just for the Wrexham game??

[jeep]

4 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said:

Dont we have a separate post for academy kids? Or if not can we have one and leave this post just for the Wrexham game??

👜

[Only In Welsh]

20 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Fair comments.  Did Parky pick a similar strength team to the previous round against us?  Faal scored which tells me he didn't pick his main strikers?

Yeah similar strength team, no first team strikers in the squad and a few other first teamers not involved either. The priority is clearly tomorrow's game 

[Only In Welsh]

20 hours ago, Whitesince63 said:

I’m not sure it’s Parkys way to come flying out of the box Welsh, I don’t think he’ll change the way he plays whatever happened last night. To be fair to Posh they were better than you and really shouldn’t have been behind anyway so in the end the result reflected the game. Obviously it will be a totally different team on Saturday but still one that slipped up to Orient so maybe you’ve hit your peak and you’ve been found out a bit?

Oh it is, we've done it a few times in big games over the past few years. I wasn't suggesting he'll change the way he plays, I agree that will never happen. 

Every team has a drop off in form, ours is always after Christmas and into the new year. I'm not sure we've been found out, its not like the way we play is a secret, its just that this league is highly competitive, as we've both seen this season. A high, well organised press is something we struggle with. Teams who can do that for a whole game tend to do well against us. Problem is not many can maintain that level of intensity.

[Cheese]

 

[Zico]

0-5

200/1

[Zico]

given we never score first or in the first half, my new bet going forward is half time/full time

Wrexham / Bolton - 33/1

[Whitestar]

Played away at Derby in my dream last night, Dempsey was in the team but for some reason was replaced before kick off, a foreign name for us scored after 31 seconds then our keeper makes a series of worldie saves which are replayed in slow motion with American voice overs.

Just saying like.

 

[Cheese]

Really taken to this lad. Cracking attitude, and he's absolutely loving it here.

 

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24969597.bolton-wanderers-schon-schumacher-impact-new-role/

 

Edited February 28, 2025 by Cheese

[L/H White]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Really taken to this lad. Cracking attitude, and he's absolutely loving it here.

 

I'm a fan to, no one gives more than him, 110% every game 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, L/H White said:

I'm a fan to, no one gives more than him, 110% every game 

On Saturday my lad pointed out that Schon's shirt was filthy after 10 minutes, while everyone elses was still spotless.  😁

[Spider]

We’ll batter these daffodil noncing, simpering gormless Welsh cunts 1-0 tomorrow and that actor will sell them to the local council for £20 by July.

you whites

[thebells]

Really tough game this. I don't see us winning both this and Tuesday night, so if had to pick only one it would be this for obvious reasons.

Despite the stick Vic gets, i think we'll miss him if he's out for a period of time. McAtee and Collins are the 'talent' but to be left with only 2 forwards (Lolos might play there but he's not really a forward in the traditional sense) is tough. I expect CMG may get played there as long as he can stay fit. Vic just offers something physical, especially off the bench, to close games out (certainly played his part on Saturday)

Anyway, i think we will draw this and draw on Tuesday. 

Excited for the replies from owners of Vic voodoo dolls!

[Rival Son]

I’m not wholly sold on Lolos; certainly based on his games as an attacking midfielder. However, I have already picked up that he seems to head the ball better than Vic.

While he might not rip up trees as an attacking sub, I don’t feel he’ll offer anything less than Vic has been giving.

[thebells]

40 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

I’m not wholly sold on Lolos; certainly based on his games as an attacking midfielder. However, I have already picked up that he seems to head the ball better than Vic.

While he might not rip up trees as an attacking sub, I don’t feel he’ll offer anything less than Vic has been giving.

Just different players. I'm not here outing Vic as a world class forward. But, defending a 1-0 lead with 10 mins to go, I think i'd rather him come off the bench than Lolos with a more physical, harrassing approach. All subjective of course.

I'm still unsure on Lolos. Certainly seen glimpses, but he needs a run in order to prove this is his level.