Cheese Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It's all so bloody depressing Maybe if we were languishing in 10th or below it would be. We're still 3rd ffs, and just lost for the first time in 14 games. No wonder other fans call us entitled pricks. Quote
Eavesy Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Going up with this group and losing the loan players would be a disaster and we’d be battered every week in the championship and back to square one. Assuming we can afford it, we need to be getting promoted on the back of winning the league blowing everyone out of the water, with a core group of our own players who are good enough to compete in the championship.  I genuinely thought we had a good enough team early on in the season, but the last few months have proven they aren’t up to it and not getting promoted will be a blessing in disguise. (As much as we all want to get out of league one) Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted March 21 Posted March 21 5 hours ago, Winchester White said: I would be embarrassed if I was Vales groundsman. The training pitch behind the away end is like a bowling green, he's probably won awards for that, pristine. Quote
Popular Post victor meldrew Posted March 21 Popular Post Posted March 21 17 minutes ago, Cheese said: Maybe if we were languishing in 10th or below it would be. We're still 3rd ffs, and just lost for the first time in 14 games. No wonder other fans call us entitled pricks. Your a prick Quote
desperado Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Eavesy said: Going up with this group and losing the loan players would be a disaster and we’d be battered every week in the championship and back to square one. Assuming we can afford it, we need to be getting promoted on the back of winning the league blowing everyone out of the water, with a core group of our own players who are good enough to compete in the championship.  I genuinely thought we had a good enough team early on in the season, but the last few months have proven they aren’t up to it and not getting promoted will be a blessing in disguise. (As much as we all want to get out of league one) I wonder if that was Allardyce’s thinking in 2001? Quote
Duck Egg Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Eavesy said: Going up with this group and losing the loan players would be a disaster and we’d be battered every week in the championship and back to square one. Assuming we can afford it, we need to be getting promoted on the back of winning the league blowing everyone out of the water, with a core group of our own players who are good enough to compete in the championship.  I genuinely thought we had a good enough team early on in the season, but the last few months have proven they aren’t up to it and not getting promoted will be a blessing in disguise. (As much as we all want to get out of league one) Nah. Just get up. Anyway you can. Worry about next year in the summer. Lots of sides promoted at a canter come down the following year while plenty squeak up via the play offs and strengthen well to do better the year after. Quote
Cheese Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, victor meldrew said: Your a prick My a prick what? Quote
Farnywhite Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) This one defeat in 14 is cherry  picking we got beat the game  before  so sounds better than 2 in 15 spin by mangers you could also say prior to that we had 1 win in 6 Edited March 21 by Farnywhite Quote
desperado Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: This one defeat in 14 is cherry  picking we got beat the game  before  so sounds better than 2 in 15 spin by mangers you could also say prior to that we had 1 win in 6 Yeh but you are suggesting there is some kind of anarchy and surrendering problem going on. Bit of balance needed. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 21 Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Nah. Just get up. Anyway you can. Worry about next year in the summer. Lots of sides promoted at a canter come down the following year while plenty squeak up via the play offs and strengthen well to do better the year after. Yeah, I agree It can be done and worrying about signing a squad capable of staying up is a problem I'd like us to have Quote
Farnywhite Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, desperado said: Yeh but you are suggesting there is some kind of anarchy and surrendering problem going on. Bit of balance needed. No but SS was getting a bit defensive in is interviews last couple of games and spinning we are unbeaten and so on . But the level of opposition we’re playing we should be winning if not comfortably grinding out the 3 points . Rotherham got a spanking after they played us and vale conceded 3 midweek . Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted March 21 Posted March 21 5 hours ago, Krimzon said: Yes it was . However winning the battles isnt as easy as all that Dempsey shoved over at least 4 times right in front of the ref with nothing given . if ever there was a game where the pitch is a leveller its this . Got to shoot on site and play for corners free kicks . What winds me up is that we dont leave a man uptop when defending and other teams do and have grabbed 3 goals in the last 3 matches. Its such a basic tactic that can prove effective. SS can't blame the pitch for bringing 11 back at corners and failing to defend properly when the opposition don't do the same. Quote
masi 51 Posted March 21 Posted March 21 51 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: What if the long ball is from our corner? I haven't watched it back but hard to believe we were so open from our own corner that their striker only had to outpace one defender. I have brought this up time and time this season.....We concede as many goals from our corners as we score.....Write today off SS gets a pass for me because of that pitch.....I am not overly concerned about today, we are just not very good at the moment Quote
desperado Posted March 21 Posted March 21 22 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: No but SS was getting a bit defensive in is interviews last couple of games and spinning we are unbeaten and so on . But the level of opposition we’re playing we should be winning if not comfortably grinding out the 3 points . Rotherham got a spanking after they played us and vale conceded 3 midweek . But you are now debating a different point. This point I agree with you on. I don’t agree there’s anarchy and we are surrendering. God it’s hard work on here after a defeat.  Quote
medwaywhite Posted March 21 Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Its such a basic tactic that can prove effective. SS can't blame the pitch for bringing 11 back at corners and failing to defend properly when the opposition don't do the same. How many times have we been caught out with the ball over the top when we’ve been attacking leaving their leading goal scorer one on one Quote
Farnywhite Posted March 21 Posted March 21 1 minute ago, desperado said: don’t agree there’s anarchy and we are surrendering. Vale looked like they wanted it more showed more fight and character for a team thats relegated we didn’t win the battle on a shitty pitch . There isn’t much more I can say about it Quote
desperado Posted March 21 Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: Vale looked like they wanted it more showed more fight and character for a team thats relegated we didn’t win the battle on a shitty pitch . There isn’t much more I can say about it Today we just didn’t have any answers, and I’m not saying that’s not a concern. But the way you and some others are talking it’s as if we’re on a really shit run and the form we’re on  is alarmingly bad with serious concerns about mentality. That’s an overreaction. Quote
Lostock Whites Posted March 21 Posted March 21 I've said it before, I know they are technically defenders, but none of our current centre backs have any technique or composure about them, they cannot pass a ball. This is particularly important when pretty much all of your attacks start from the back. Anyway, that was shambolic. Schuey referenced the unbeaten run and said we have been playing well, but what the hell is he smoking? Our last 4 matches have been abject at best. Our miracle against Wycombe disguised a horrendous performance. Dropped points and awful performances against 3 of the worst teams back to back to back, Rotherham, Doncaster & Port Vale. Then I'm hearing our Captain state that bottom of the league with 3,000 of our own fans behind the goal is a "tough place to go". Get the fuck outta here with that rubbish. You're representing Bolton Wanderers Football Club. Not remotely good enough Quote
Awful lineup Posted March 21 Posted March 21 It’s the lack of ball winning I find depressing . However , I’m going to be charitable , some of those challenges were borderline to say the least . We did sing about the ref today and I think he did need to clamp down and he didn’t . No excuses for defeat however  Quote
Farnywhite Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) 9 minutes ago, desperado said: Today we just didn’t have any answers,     We didn’t have any answers today , Tuesday or at Rotherham . It is a concern I don’t think we have played well apart from Exeter were the finishing was the difference and now the  results are matching the performances were previously on this run we were getting away with it Wycombe for example Edited March 21 by Farnywhite Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted March 21 Posted March 21 4 hours ago, wakey said: Clutching at straws #1 there's only Lincoln and Plymouth in the top half in any sort of form #2 we've been shite against the cannon fodder all season. Maybe our tough run in suits us better We've won 5 out of 20 away from home, only 1 against a team in the top 14. I'm not holding my breath. Quote
Zog1 Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 hours ago, desperado said: He was one player off your side to start. Then started the 2nd half with your side. Clearly what they needed was your 2nd half team talk, then all would have been ok No he wasn't, playing Johnston at left back in a 433 or whatever it was, was not my side. Don't talk shite. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted March 21 Posted March 21 4 hours ago, Arrested development said: Apter on the left first half was a bad advert for the wingers on the"right" side crew. No right foot. Defender shows him down the line, piece of piss to defend. If you can't beat a man, have no pace, are one footed and lack strength, it doesn't matter what position you play in. Quote
desperado Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:     We didn’t have any answers today , Tuesday or at Rotherham . It is a concern I don’t think we have played well apart from Exeter were the finishing was the difference and now the  results are matching the performances were previously on this run we were getting away with it Wycombe for example Well we did at Rotherham. And arguably Tuesday if you look at the stats. I repeat for the fucking last time because I really think people talk and don’t listen in here. There’s  no anarchy and we are not surrendering Edited March 21 by desperado Quote
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