Luton Town (H)

[Johnnyrotten]

17 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

There must have only been about 5 thousand fans on by the time our players got to do their 'lap of honour'

So about 4 times the number that stayed last season, seems like a lot.

I haven't missed one minute of a home game this season, and it never occurred to me for a second that I might stay to applaud them yet again.  How many claps do they need?  How many claps do fans need?  Its wierd.

[Leyther_Matt]

33 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

It kills the end of the game for the fans if that becomes regular practice.

It should  be against the rules to not put the board up.

Don’t disagree, but what seems like a huge overreaction by the club over the last few days re potential pitch invasions must have had some serious foundation if they’re using safety grounds for something that is potentially so pivotal. Would like to think it’ll be a one off but we’ll find out soon enough when we’re all hanging round ready to run on the pitch to celebrate at Bradford 🎉 

 

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[Johnnyrotten]

15 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

The obsession with preventing a pitch invasion for this specific game was really weird. I'd genuinely question whether anyone who thought it was ever a remote possibility - let alone when we lost - should actually be involved in running the club. How clueless and out of touch can you be.

There has never been a pitch invasion in my lifetime, unless we have won promotion, avoided relegation on the final day, or got to Wembley.  They just don't get it if they think it might happen after a routine last league game.

[onefinfrandsen]

1 hour ago, Burndens Bogs said:

For whatever reason, the  added time wasn't shown on the board or announced over the tannoy.

A possible can of worms if this practice gets replicated at grounds up & down the country.

Trust us to start a new dogshit trend.

Think it happened at Rochdale last week

[Rizlar]

SS doesn’t look happy on the inter view after the game .

[kent_white]

They'd have been worried about Luton potentially going on the pitch as well don't forget. 

[Burndens Bogs]

25 minutes ago, kent_white said:

They'd have been worried about Luton potentially going on the pitch as well don't forget. 

I was more concerned about getting their players OFF the fucking pitch.

[jmjhb]

32 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

SS doesn’t look happy on the inter view after the game .

Good. Let's have the wake-up call now and not after the first leg of the SF.

[Johnnyrotten]

31 minutes ago, kent_white said:

They'd have been worried about Luton potentially going on the pitch as well don't forget. 

That just makes them doubly out of touch.  No chance of away fans invading the pitch, especially if they haven't won anything.  It gets wierder the more anyone tries to justify the misreading of the situation.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

All the pre-match communication seemed to be directed at us

[FrancisFogarty]

1 hour ago, Burndens Bogs said:

I was more concerned about getting their players OFF the fucking pitch.

Sprinklers.

[desperado]

Not quite as strong as Gonzo but still pretty pissed off with that yesterday.

Our ability to shoot ourselves in the foot could very much end up defining our season - be it a defensive/goalkeeping fuck up, or multiple wasted opportunities at the other end.

As much as the outcome was relatively low stakes we still witnessed what has been plaguing us all season.

Not finishing 3rd or 4th puts us under far more pressure in my mind - that second leg, with Bradford behind both goals, will be an extremely hard task. 

And travelling over there on a Thursday night for an 8pm kick off is a real shitter.  

But, with my positive head on, if we have a couple of games now where we play to our full potential - cut out individual mistakes, take our chances and overwhelm our opponents then promotion is still very achievable. Still favourites with the bookies. 

We’ve come back very well from defeats this season - it needs to happen again and I think it will. 

[tomski]

In the grand scheme of things it was disappointing to lose a game we should have won 2 or 3 times over with chances in my opinion. That said it really makes no difference and It only matters these next 2/3 games.

Ref was worst I’ve seen in a long time. Both their pens a farce. Liam Walsh should of been sent off twice, yet it was still our fault we lost.

Disappointed to be at home first but it’s not a big enough concern that it should make or break our season. Personally gutted as I can’t go but will try like many for the away.

[Whitesince63]

The major objective for me yesterday was to try and prevent Luton and Plymouth making the play offs because I believe they’re head and shoulders better than any of the other three. In the end we fluffed it and those other three did the job for us so no damage done. It’s disappointing that we didn’t secure a second leg home tie to complete the job in front of our own fans but I’m still just as confident we’ll beat Bradford over two legs anyway. Bring it on now, what’s passed is passed, we’re the best team still in it despite our defensive issues so just let’s go now and prove it.

[Tombwfc]

47 minutes ago, tomski said:

In the grand scheme of things it was disappointing to lose a game we should have won 2 or 3 times over with chances in my opinion. That said it really makes no difference and It only matters these next 2/3 games.

 

I think this now completes the set of someone having said this after every game we didn't win this season (maybe not Cardiff away).

Can't see it yesterday though. They scored three, missed a penalty and hit the post/bar three times. How many more chances than that did we create to win 2 or 3 times over?

[bwfc4ife]

I’m in agreement that the result yesterday couldn’t have been anymore Bolton wanderersesque. It was a disaster.
 

The problem for me is that result yesterday really has tipped the balance in their favour. Both games this season have been tight, we were the better team last weekend for sure but still only managed the one goal and come away with a point. 
 

We need a solid win next Saturday for me, something like a 3-0 to stand any real chance because we all know our away form is shite and we will concede in a needs must game for them. Same as the Barnsley play off, form out the window and they very nearly pulled off the turnaround.

If we have to go there and win, I just don’t believe we have it in us.

On the flip side, if we can overcome Bradford over two two legs second leg at theirs. We win the final for me.

[tomski]

19 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

I think this now completes the set of someone having said this after every game we didn't win this season (maybe not Cardiff away).

Can't see it yesterday though. They scored three, missed a penalty and hit the post/bar three times. How many more chances than that did we create to win 2 or 3 times over?

Watched a different game to you. I’ve no issue with that. It’s opinion based after all. Second half we had multiple chances to put the game to bed. Glad cissokho, Burstow and Kenny all had good chances. 

[Eddie]

16 minutes ago, bwfc4ife said:

I’m in agreement that the result yesterday couldn’t have been anymore Bolton wanderersesque. It was a disaster.
 

The problem for me is that result yesterday really has tipped the balance in their favour. Both games this season have been tight, we were the better team last weekend for sure but still only managed the one goal and come away with a point. 
 

We need a solid win next Saturday for me, something like a 3-0 to stand any real chance because we all know our away form is shite and we will concede in a needs must game for them. Same as the Barnsley play off, form out the window and they very nearly pulled off the turnaround.

If we have to go there and win, I just don’t believe we have it in us.

On the flip side, if we can overcome Bradford over two two legs second leg at theirs. We win the final for me.

We’ve lost 2 of our last 11 away games, one of which was Cardiff (and the other on a farmers’ field). Our away form is not shite.

We don’t win many away but I don’t see where this need for a 3-0 advantage comes from, we’re pretty good at not losing away from home.

[Rizlar]

Watching the game yesterday Kenny needs to get hold of Gale and point out that instead of going for goal time and time again to look up and pass it to somebody who is in a better position twice yesterday he went for goal and Kenny was unmarked .

Forino needs to point out to Conway to fecking make a fecking go at getting back in defence once we lose the ball he regularly saunters back as though he’s fecking Roberto Carlos and all our opposition know this is our weak spot. 

[Eddie]

Just now, Rizlar said:

Watching the game yesterday Kenny needs to get hold of Gale and point out that instead of going for goal time and time again to look up and pass it to somebody who is in a better position twice yesterday he went for goal and Kenny was unmarked .

Forino needs to point out to Conway to fecking make a fecking go at getting back in defence once we lose the ball he regularly saunters back as though he’s fecking Roberto Carlos and all our opposition know this is our weak spot. 

He won’t play in the play off games - Johnston will be back at left back. GJ is far from the perfect left back but he’s the more solid option of the two. Given how much he’s played this season, I can’t see SS leaving him out of the biggest games of the season.

[ianofcleveleys]

38 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

I think this now completes the set of someone having said this after every game we didn't win this season (maybe not Cardiff away).

Can't see it yesterday though. They scored three, missed a penalty and hit the post/bar three times. How many more chances than that did we create to win 2 or 3 times over?

I think you're right, our issue in a lot of these games we should have won hasnt been missing sitters, pens hitting the woodwork repeatedly etc, more that we create a lot of situations but dont make the most of them, with a poor decision, badly executed cross, final ball, weak effort straight at someone. 

Our other problem is making games more difficult than they ought to be by conceding the same types of poor goal when not under any real pressure

[Rizlar]

Just now, Eddie said:

He won’t play in the play off games - Johnston will be back at left back. GJ is far from the perfect left back but he’s the more solid option of the two. Given how much he’s played this season, I can’t see SS leaving him out of the biggest games of the season.

SS needs to Johnston as his weaknesses but at least he puts a tackle in , our left side is a major problem

[Jol_BWFC]

3 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

Watching the game yesterday Kenny needs to get hold of Gale and point out that instead of going for goal time and time again to look up and pass it to somebody who is in a better position twice yesterday he went for goal and Kenny was unmarked .

It’s not only that, but he very, very rarely hits the target. He regularly cuts in off the wing, makes a yard of space with a sight on goal, then fires high and wide. 

He’d be great at Aussie Rules.

[ianofcleveleys]

4 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

SS needs to Johnston as his weaknesses but at least he puts a tackle in , our left side is a major problem

Personally, for both of these games and especially the away leg I'd play Johnston and Conway and bin the left winger off. Neither of Gale's or Cissoko's assets outweigh their deficiencies and risks. 

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

SS needs to Johnston as his weaknesses but at least he puts a tackle in , our left side is a major problem

The left side is a problem rather than GJ or Conway as individuals Look at Huddersfield game, Conway not playing and everything came down that side. Gale does not get back and cover (unlike ACD on other side). Hence Cissoko has come in who is a bit better but so weak in the tackle.  
 

It does mean we have threat going forward on that side as we saw at Bradford last week and the second goal yesterday, but teams at this level will know that weakness and as the season has gone on more and more have targeted it. 
 

Depending on the result of the first leg I would be tempted to swap Cissoko for Conway and play GJ as left back. Sacrifice some attacking threat for hopefully more solidity