Churchill Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) i fear i may of played a part of this.......... stewards would not talk to me, but picked on the yoof..... the last word i heard off the steward was " i will have you , next home game" By "Having you", so to speak, you sure he dont just mean wear some elasticated waist trousers as he's bringing along a tub of Vaseline and is gonna bum you into next week!! Edited February 15, 2008 by tonygreen1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_west Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Name and shame the fcukers, addresses too. Fcuk em. I assume most of these pricks are local so surely someone must know 'em - root 'em out and put a squeze on 'em. All as it takes is dropping in their real name or their local area and they'd soon sh!t it, and then the attitude might change a bit. I reckon most of 'em get a lazy lob just thinking about if they can get away with chucking some one out of the ground....w@nkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwaywhite Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I assume most of these pricks are local so surely someone must know 'em - root 'em out and put a squeze on 'em. All as it takes is dropping in their real name or their local area and they'd soon sh!t it, and then the attitude might change a bit. I reckon most of 'em get a lazy lob just thinking about if they can get away with chucking some one out of the ground....w@nkers. i thinkthe same lot do stewarding at wigan warriors as well, seen a few when at the match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOSE36 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 i thinkthe same lot do stewarding at wigan warriors as well, seen a few when at the match Pricks the lot of them, hopefully some will travel to madrid then at night on the way home they can get a fcking good kicking off both the wanderers fans out there then the madrid ultras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian de Greatest Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Obvious points but need to be made... The Stewards are not coppers. They have no actual right to 'legitimate' use of force. What they did last night to those 2 lads was assault. If they were actually any good at their job they'd be doing private security somewhere decent, not freezing their balls off in Horwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 15, 2008 Site Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2008 Pricks the lot of them, hopefully some will travel to madrid then at night on the way home they can get a fcking good kicking off both the wanderers fans out there then the madrid ultras I'd have thought there'd be more than two wanderers fans going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph gubbins Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 did you see the fat tawat with the little pony tail what the fuuk is that all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph gubbins Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 kill them all the kid threatening cowards they are scum ,boring uninportent twaats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest squidgy66 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Obvious points but need to be made... The Stewards are not coppers. They have no actual right to 'legitimate' use of force. What they did last night to those 2 lads was assault. If they were actually any good at their job they'd be doing private security somewhere decent, not freezing their balls off in Horwich. As an 'independent witness', they used reasonable force last night as the lads conerned started lashing out. They are employees of the club and have legitmate rights to chuck people out. Dunno why I know that Squidgy Devil's advocate It was funny as f?ck though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 16, 2008 Site Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2008 You are right Sqidgy. Think it'll say somewhere either on your ticket or on that un-read poster at the entrance: The management of Bolton Wanderers FC reserve the right to refuse entry, to persons unfit through drink or any other reason, entry into the stadium. This, as likely as not, also refers to those who gained entry and then acted in a manner so as to offend or upset others within the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Lets get them photographed and name and shame them on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 If you are caught taking photographs inside a football stadium you are liable to be thrown out, that is number 14? on that un read list at the turnstile entrance (I know because it happened to me at Burnden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 The management of Bolton Wanderers FC reserve the right to refuse entry, to persons unfit through drink or any other reason, entry into the stadium. Shame they haven't applied that to some of our players over the years, mentioning no names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 16, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 16, 2008 COCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 16, 2008 Site Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2008 Neil Redfern fan then Stanley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Three years ago I was talking to a group of security guards at the Slough Bonfire Event (yes Slough really as it all!), and I asked them in passing if they had travelled far to get to the event. I was absolutely amazed when they told me that they lived in Ipswich (which is probably about a three-hour drive away) - the company that employed them having won the stewarding contract for the event. Apparently the money they were being paid was not a great deal (not much above minimum wage if I recall correctly), but they were paid a travel allowance - and this allowance plus their pay on the night made it (in their opinion) well worth their while. The reason why I mention this is that they also told me in conversation that they also did the stewarding for the Reading home matches (which is the next town along from Slough). It might be therefore that the stewards at Bolton might not live locally at all. Anyway as for naming and publishing their addresses if anyone actually did know any of them - this is absolutely wrong. If anyone really does feel that any steward is 'assaulting' anyone - then they should report it to the club directly or even the police - for appropriate action to take place. (There are plenty surveillance cameras watching the crowd - so any illegal force used by the stewards will have been captured on CCTV footage). Taking things into your own hands and talking about vigilante action is not only illegal but also ironic - as the people calling for the stewards to be named post themselves under assumed names and aliases! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted February 16, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 16, 2008 Posting names and addresses certainly isn't illegal, but it's unethical for this website. I don't have a problem with people posting pictures of them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Posting names and addresses certainly isn't illegal, but it's unethical for this website. I don't have a problem with people posting pictures of them though. I'm no expert but my understanding of the Data Protection Act is that - in my words - it is illegal to post someone's personal data on to any computer site unless that person as given permission to do so first. People have a legal right to privacy - the making public of a person's name and address on a web site like this - will break that right, and thus is an illegal act. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/ukpga_19980029_en_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted February 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 17, 2008 I'm no expert but my understanding of the Data Protection Act is that - in my words - it is illegal to post someone's personal data on to any computer site unless that person as given permission to do so first. People have a legal right to privacy - the making public of a person's name and address on a web site like this - will break that right, and thus is an illegal act. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/ukpga_19980029_en_1 As we aren't publishing addresses, as previously stated, then pseudo-legal advice is superfluous, thanks all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbwfcd Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) I'm no expert but my understanding of the Data Protection Act is that - in my words - it is illegal to post someone's personal data on to any computer site unless that person as given permission to do so first. The data protect act was brought in to give people rights over their personal data that companies store in databases. So if I owned a website which had members and email addresses then each member has a right to see what data i am storing, request that the data be removed and they are not allowed to pass it on without say so of each member. The organisation also has a responsibility to ensure the data does not get into the wrong hands. If it was illegal to post someone's personal data on a website then wouldn't most news websites break this. In fact we wouldn't be able to refer to any players by name as they haven't given us permission. I'm not sure on the ins and outs of it really but I think the Data Protection Act doesn't apply in cases such as this. Someone may have broke the act though, depending on where the information comes from (e.g a list of addresses from members of this site, a list of names and addresses from some other database that is used for some other purpose). Edited February 17, 2008 by cbwfcd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 The data protect act was brought in to give people rights over their personal data that companies store in databases. So if I owned a website which had members and email addresses then each member has a right to see what data i am storing, request that the data be removed and they are not allowed to pass it on without say so of each member. The organisation also has a responsibility to ensure the data does not get into the wrong hands. If it was illegal to post someone's personal data on a website then wouldn't most news websites break this. In fact we wouldn't be able to refer to any players by name as they haven't given us permission. I'm not sure on the ins and outs of it really but I think the Data Protection Act doesn't apply in cases such as this. Someone may have broke the act though, depending on where the information comes from (e.g a list of addresses from members of this site, a list of names and addresses from some other database that is used for some other purpose). eh? what's this got to do with Rod being a nobber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted February 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 17, 2008 That was pretty much my understanding of it, based on studying it at uni (over 12 years ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted February 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 17, 2008 eh? what's this got to do with Rod being a nobber? Indeed. This is our Rod: http://archive.thisislancashire.co.uk/1999/9/14/757861.html But is this also our Rod? http://archive.burytimes.co.uk/1999/7/22/764264.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted February 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 17, 2008 The stewards do not go into the crowd until they get the go ahead that the cctv camera is watching them. Under the data protection act you can ask to be supplied with a copy of the tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 That was pretty much my understanding of it, based on studying it at uni (over 12 years ago). The original Data Protection Act that you studied as been repealed and replaced with the Data Protection Act 1998 (which in simple terms was required due to European Legislation - part of which being the Human Rights Act - right to privacy) The data protect act was brought in to give people rights over their personal data that companies store in databases. So if I owned a website which had members and email addresses then each member has a right to see what data i am storing, request that the data be removed and they are not allowed to pass it on without say so of each member. The organisation also has a responsibility to ensure the data does not get into the wrong hands. If it was illegal to post someone's personal data on a website then wouldn't most news websites break this. In fact we wouldn't be able to refer to any players by name as they haven't given us permission. I'm not sure on the ins and outs of it really but I think the Data Protection Act doesn't apply in cases such as this. Someone may have broke the act though, depending on where the information comes from (e.g a list of addresses from members of this site, a list of names and addresses from some other database that is used for some other purpose). The Act covers all personal data held by electronic means (and so any personal information published on this or other public forums would be included under the Act). The are exceptions to the Data Protection / Human Rights Acts - one of which is reporting information in the public interest / public domain (but even then the personal data can only contain that that is relevant) - For example a football player can be named if say he is playing in a match - but his address cannot be given. However if the same player was convicted for some wrong doing both his name and address can be given (subject to the courts ruling). I guess what I am trying to say is that I would advice anyone publishing anyone else's personal data to get their consent first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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