BWFC1985 Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 I went to Anfield on Sat. 6 lads on the lash since 9, and really up for a good laugh. few drinks, good atomopshere and a bit of banter with the Liverpool fans. How wrong! We were sat down all match surrounded by a load off middle aged toffs with their kids playing on their Nintendo DS. Is it that the normal working class have been priced out (?37) or Bolton do actually have a set of Boring Bastard Fans???
Sweep Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Is it that the normal working class have been priced out I suppose the question could be..........is there really such thing as "working class" these days? - I have a mate who works in London, and earns knocking on for 150K per year, he still reckons he's working class because of his upbringing..........is he chuffers like, I tell him, but he's having none of it at all
no balls Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 I suppose the question could be..........is there really such thing as "working class" these days? - I have a mate who works in London, and earns knocking on for 150K per year, he still reckons he's working class because of his upbringing..........is he chuffers like, I tell him, but he's having none of it at all Indeed. What is working class these days? I think the boundaries have changed with the creation of this new British subculture of Chavs. I'd consider myself a 'professional', who had a nice enough upbringing, without fear of being in the dinner ticket queue or having a handmidown uniform, but didn't have more than one holiday a year or everything I wanted .I really couldn't say what class I'm in. I think working, or lower middle but maybe I'm wrong.
Happy Wanderer Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 I went to Anfield on Sat. 6 lads on the lash since 9, and really up for a good laugh. few drinks, good atomopshere and a bit of banter with the Liverpool fans. How wrong! We were sat down all match surrounded by a load off middle aged toffs with their kids playing on their Nintendo DS. Is it that the normal working class have been priced out (??37) or Bolton do actually have a set of Boring Bastard Fans??? Welcome aboard There are a few points here. You can still enjoy yourself no matter where you sit, the beer takes over. As for folk sitting there, well the game was a bit shite wasn't it? Kids playing with games consoles, you find many adults playing with their mobile phones so no difference really. It's a sign of the times when today's kids have to occupy their hands all the time. Middle class/working class there is very little between them when at a match and 'amongst the lads'. A few years back some to the middle class I knew where handy lads.
no balls Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Is it now middle class to have a DS? I'm not sure what class it is but it's bad parenting tbh. Make them watch the game FFS, you've paid enough!
superjohnmcginlay Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 There were some lass reading a book t'other week in the ESL in the Sheff United game!
Casino Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 I went to Anfield on Sat. 6 lads on the lash since 9, and really up for a good laugh. few drinks, good atomopshere and a bit of banter with the Liverpool fans. How wrong! We were sat down all match surrounded by a load off middle aged toffs with their kids playing on their Nintendo DS. Is it that the normal working class have been priced out (??37) or Bolton do actually have a set of Boring Bastard Fans??? maybe plenty got fcuked off with getting covered in ale tossed about by scrotes
clown Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 I went to Anfield on Sat. 6 lads on the lash since 9, and really up for a good laugh. few drinks, good atomopshere and a bit of banter with the Liverpool fans. How wrong! We were sat down all match surrounded by a load off middle aged toffs with their kids playing on their Nintendo DS. Is it that the normal working class have been priced out (??37) or Bolton do actually have a set of Boring Bastard Fans??? It's a bit harsh to suggest that they are in the wrong having a family day out and watching the football and that you're in the right turning up half cut after 6 hours morning boozing wanting to barrack Liverpool fans. Anyway, I'm getting back to my Super Mario level 326
clown Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 I'm not sure what class it is but it's bad parenting tbh. Make them watch the game FFS, you've paid enough! I think for the first couple of seasons watching the Wanderers I watched very little on the pitch, instead kicked a can around the terraces and looked forward to half time and a bag of crisps. Wish I'd had a fking DS!!
GudniForever Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 There were some lass reading a book t'other week in the ESL in the Sheff United game! Haha, I remember that, i will try to take the credit for spotting it first!!!
Bigtoe Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Is it now middle class to have a DS? Sure is, us upper class oiks have DSI's
White on Tyne Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 When I took my lad to his first match a few years back away at Middlesbro, a dull 1-1, I thought I'd better get him a comic to stop him whingeing if he got bored. So in my local newsagents I picked up the Beano and the gadgie behind the counter asked if I wasn't a bit too old to be reading the Beano? I explained I was taking my lad to his first match and he might get bored "What, the Toon vs Everton?" he said "No Bolton vs Middlesbro" I replied "Way are ya sure one comic'll be enough like?" he said. He was right.
Guest bwfcdan Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 When I took my lad to his first match a few years back away at Middlesbro, a dull 1-1, I thought I'd better get him a comic to stop him whingeing if he got bored. So in my local newsagents I picked up the Beano and the gadgie behind the counter asked if I wasn't a bit too old to be reading the Beano? I explained I was taking my lad to his first match and he might get bored "What, the Toon vs Everton?" he said "No Bolton vs Middlesbro" I replied "Way are ya sure one comic'll be enough like?" he said. He was right. Remember that i think, was a good following if i remember rightly.. Bo Hansen bagging the equalizer...
DirtySanchez Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Remember that i think, was a good following if i remember rightly.. Bo Hansen bagging the equalizer... My mate got arrested for running on the pitch at that game after Hansen scored. In the one time I've been in the west stand, a woman in front of me spent the game knitting!
BWFC1985 Posted February 1, 2010 Author Posted February 1, 2010 I think for the first couple of seasons watching the Wanderers I watched very little on the pitch, instead kicked a can around the terraces and looked forward to half time and a bag of crisps. Wish I'd had a fking DS!! HAHA, I scored some cracking goals at the front of the Lever End when i was a kid.
tyldesley_white Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) I'm not sure what class it is but it's bad parenting tbh. Make them watch the game FFS, you've paid enough! Years ago they used to kick an empty can around at the bottom of the Manny road paddock, same thing just different times Edited February 1, 2010 by tyldesley_white
frank_spencer Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Years ago they used to kick an empty can around at the bottom of the Manny road paddock, same thing just different times they gave out Nationwide mini footballs once, some kid brought his to every game after that and a mini match would ensue at the bottom of the Lever End.
no balls Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Years ago they used to kick an empty can around at the bottom of the Manny road paddock, same thing just different times I disagree. They were socialising, making eye contact & burning up energy doing that.
DeaneWhite Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Back to the subject, I think ordinary lower paid workers were priced out of the game a long time ago. The idea was that it was the working-class, low-paid, giro-cashing scrotes who caused all the bother at games, so they priced them out. Hooligans came from all walks of life (and still do). It is not uncommon for teachers, lawyers, doctors and other professionals to be in organised hooligan "firms". The only reason there doesn't tend to be as much trouble in the grounds as there once was is banning orders. Without banning orders, there would still be pitch invasions and rioting in the stands. Funny how there is as much trouble as there ever was outside games. It is impossibloe for a family man on the minimum wage to afford football these days. And the clubs want this. They get to say to their sponsors that the majority of attending supporters are affluent. No sh1t, Sherlock. You priced the not-so-affluent out of going a long time ago! See the corporate brochure on the BWFC website for evidence of this.
Casino Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 if theyre trying to price out the lowere earners why sell tickets for kids at 49 quid the affluent fans don't give a shite if its 200, 300 or 400 quid for kids
M G WHITES Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) I went to Anfield on Sat. 6 lads on the lash since 9, and really up for a good laugh. few drinks, good atomopshere and a bit of banter with the Liverpool fans. How wrong! We were sat down all match surrounded by a load off middle aged toffs with their kids playing on their Nintendo DS. Is it that the normal working class have been priced out (??37) or Bolton do actually have a set of Boring Bastard Fans??? I disagree, Bolton fans are mad as fook and love a fight and a drink Edited February 1, 2010 by M G WHITES
DeaneWhite Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 if theyre trying to price out the lowere earners why sell tickets for kids at 49 quid the affluent fans don't give a shite if its 200, 300 or 400 quid for kids The whole idea of cut-price kids' season tickets is to get kids into the season ticket habit. Now tell me how someone earning 200 quid a week (before tax) can afford tickets at up to 35 quid a go. It's a once or twice a season thing for them. This town has more than its fair share of minimum wage workers- most of whom have to work hours incompatible with football. Sunday and midweek games come as a blessing. Even though season tickets are relatively affordable, a lot of people are unable to get one as they wouldn't get value for money out of it. If you read the corporate brochure, it stades that "75% of attending supporters are abc1", i.e. middle class. The wage for such workers starts at 20k (500 a week) all the way up to the CEOs of major corporations earning millions. This may be inflated by call centre workers, who are not manual workers, so are put into C1 along with junior management. Even so, the population of Bolton is more like 45% ABC1 with the remainder at C2 (skilled manual worker) and below. At least 15% fall into category E (lowest level of subsistence- benefits, casual and part time unskilled workers), with the vast majority in category d, thus earning the national minimum wage or just above; i.e 200-300 a week. It is the deliberate policy of every club to engineer the highest income support base possible, as this attracts higher sponsorship revenue.
Carlos Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 It is the deliberate policy of every club to engineer the highest income support base possible, as this attracts higher sponsorship revenue. I don't think you can make such a sweeping generalisation. Man City for example probably don't really care when you have a sheikh pumping hundreds of millions in. You can also create an case that shows how the "man on the street" has been priced out of football, but I fucking well bet you they've got a fuck off massive LCD TV and every Sky channel under the sun. You've been able to watch the last 2 FA Cup games for ??10 for an adult and no fucker turned up, BWFC can't be accused of pricing people out of those games.
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