Juan.Kerr Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 First time I've seen him in long pants. Was he going for an inteview ? Quote
gazza Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 He's ginger, he didnt engage with the fans as he wrongly thought we were all retarded due to bedsheets being unfurled prior to his first game. Oh and he's ginger. go on.you know you had a bit of a crush on him Quote
no balls Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 go on.you know you had a bit of a crush on him He had potential to turn silver, Gaz Quote
gazza Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 He had potential to turn silver, Gaz exactly what i thought of you ,you hussy Quote
Youri Djorkaeff Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 An open letter to all the current squad players.... FUK OFF not everything is down to the management, we have a bunch of overpaid and careless pricks currently wearing the shirt. Coyle is a battling and honest man and i wouldn't want anyone else out there at the moment. He is also a the best shot we have to get back up if we go down having previous experience. We have around ?100 million debt and premier league clubs failing to break even by 2014 will be facing penalities. Nobody seems to realise that a good manager won't come to a club with finances like ours. We have no chance of getting anyone better than coyle so i suggest you start getting behind him and criticising the players who should have their fecking wages stopped until we win!!!! Quote
no balls Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Coyle is a battling and honest man and i wouldn't want anyone else out there at the moment. Quote
tarian1979 Posted December 17, 2011 Author Posted December 17, 2011 An open letter to all the current squad players.... FUK OFF not everything is down to the management, we have a bunch of overpaid and careless pricks currently wearing the shirt. Coyle is a battling and honest man and i wouldn't want anyone else out there at the moment. He is also a the best shot we have to get back up if we go down having previous experience. We have around ?100 million debt and premier league clubs failing to break even by 2014 will be facing penalities. Nobody seems to realise that a good manager won't come to a club with finances like ours. We have no chance of getting anyone better than coyle so i suggest you start getting behind him and criticising the players who should have their fecking wages stopped until we win!!!! no one better than 3 wins in 22 league games, give over Quote
superjohnmcginlay Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 An open letter to all the current squad players.... FUK OFF not everything is down to the management, we have a bunch of overpaid and careless pricks currently wearing the shirt. Coyle is a battling and honest man and i wouldn't want anyone else out there at the moment. He is also a the best shot we have to get back up if we go down having previous experience. We have around ?100 million debt and premier league clubs failing to break even by 2014 will be facing penalities. Nobody seems to realise that a good manager won't come to a club with finances like ours. We have no chance of getting anyone better than coyle so i suggest you start getting behind him and criticising the players who should have their fecking wages stopped until we win!!!! Of course Owen Quote
birch-chorley Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 we have gone down, get over it. there are nurses in Nottingham with our names on em. Quote
Bobcat Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) An open letter to all the current squad players.... FUK OFF not everything is down to the management, we have a bunch of overpaid and careless pricks currently wearing the shirt. Coyle is a battling and honest man and i wouldn't want anyone else out there at the moment. He is also a the best shot we have to get back up if we go down having previous experience. We have around ?100 million debt and premier league clubs failing to break even by 2014 will be facing penalities. Nobody seems to realise that a good manager won't come to a club with finances like ours. We have no chance of getting anyone better than coyle so i suggest you start getting behind him and criticising the players who should have their fecking wages stopped until we win!!!! ha ha ha i admire your blind stupidity Edited December 18, 2011 by Bobcat Quote
Sluffy Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 An open letter to all the current squad players.... FUK OFF not everything is down to the management, we have a bunch of overpaid and careless pricks currently wearing the shirt. Coyle is a battling and honest man and i wouldn't want anyone else out there at the moment. He is also a the best shot we have to get back up if we go down having previous experience. We have around ?100 million debt and premier league clubs failing to break even by 2014 will be facing penalities. Nobody seems to realise that a good manager won't come to a club with finances like ours. We have no chance of getting anyone better than coyle so i suggest you start getting behind him and criticising the players who should have their fecking wages stopped until we win!!!! Coyle joined us when we were ?90 odd million in debt - based on your logic doesn't that make him a bad manager too then? To be honest we've every chance of getting someone better - Coyle as been found out at this level - he clearly can't out think the opposition, he doesn't seem even to analyse the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition and plan a strategy to limit their strengths and exploit their weaknesses! Also as clearly training is a joke - time, after time, after time, we concede from crosses and corners - yet knowing this - and presumably training to stop that - we conceded yet again from a cross. Do you want me to throw in the stubbornness of playing 4-4-2, even though we are leaking nearly THREE goals a game this season? Or the jaw dropping reliance on players badly out of form, or sadly these days - over the hill - for week after week, month after month? Or the bizarre team selections - players playing out of position, or not good enough for the squad one week and in the first team the next! Or the buying players / getting them on loan - then not playing them and sticking with players who presumably in Coyle's eyes are better than the ones he's gone to the trouble if brining in? Unless someone knows differently Coyle's contract expires in the summer. We are beyond the point of staying up now - I'll explain why in a new post below this one. So if we are down - and Coyle walks in the summer - then why bother wasting money we haven't got sacking him? Coyle's had a decent career in football as a player and a manager and thus should not be short of a bob or two. I'm sure he could afford to walk if he wanted to do the honourable thing and tear up his contract - Strachan did at Boro. Maybe it suits the club to keep him whilst they take their time and find the right man for next season - who knows? I'm sorry Coyle failed but failed badly he has - people must be in some sort of denial if they can't see that by now - would anyone have given Megson so much time - EIGHTEEN defeats in the last 21 league games!!! Time to accept the inevitable and move on - the club will be doing, with or without Coyle. Quote
Sluffy Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 We've actually lost 18 games out of our last 21 - that's a mind boggling 86% loss record or equivalent to just SIXTEEN points over a full season. Over the last 38 games out record reads - won 10, drawn 2, lost TWENTY-SIX - for 32 points - in other words relegation form since before LAST Christmas! Oh but it must be the chairman?s fault, or the players, or the run of difficult games we had, or because we have no money to buy anyone, or the players Coyle inherited were shite, or the players Coyle's bought have been shite, etc, etc, etc. About time some people faced up to the simple truth - Coyle isn't up to the job. We are going to get relegated - that is a forgone conclusion now. Are we really going to take points off United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool - so that leaves us with 16 games to get the 30 points or so need for safety. That means winning ALL our remaining home games (excluding those against the 'big six') to get 24 points - and the equivalent of drawing ALL our remaining away games (apart from the big six ones) to get the other 8 points. In other words to approximately get to the 40 point barrier and relative safety we need to get nearly as many points in just 16 games as we have done in the last THIRTY-EIGHT games! Does anyone truly believe that will happen? I don't. Quote
only1swanny Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Going back to an earlier point.. Coyle did inherit some cracking players, and even though Megson wasn't the Happy Chappy manager we needed, we can't fault his buys (although I'm sure somebody will now). People were saying they were happy with Coyles Signings over the summer, I wasn't and tbh felt then that we had a weaker squad. Something is deffo wrong with Coyles' plans. Our defence is pretty much what it was last season and the season before.. I.e. Knight, Cahill & Robinson, however they don't play as a team now, and that's the managers role above all else.. 2 England Internationals and an ex England U21 player.. It boils down to one of three things.. Either.. a) Coyle doesn't give a shit, for some unknown reason, Gartside won't stop in the give some "constructive" critisism the players just don't care, which I doubt as they all have something to loose if we go down. c) Coyle is out of his depth as a manager. He inherited a good team which he is now phasing out, and trying to replace with a Team he trusts. On the last point, try not to forget that Megson suffered from a barage of dressing room politics, There's been quite a few hints from players that its them that's causing the problems. I wonder if Coyles tried to break it up by bringing in more players as cheap as possible to break this up. Quote
HomerJay Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Coyle is just not a good manager to have when the going going gets tough.the players need a bollocking and he can't do that. Thanks for your efforts owen, I know you have the clubs interests at heart, but it's time to go and give the club you love a fighting chance. Quote
Ani Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 If anyone is defending Coyle, they need to answer a few questions.. 1. Does he know his best team, 3-4 changes most weeks all subs in first hour yesterday imply not 2. We have massive debt has he used the limited resources well? signing ngog (then not playing him) and big wages for petrov imply not 3. Does he have the gumption to changes things? 4 4 2 every game implies not 4. If you are blaming the players are you saying that he is not getting the best from them, is that not the managers job? I am desperate for Coyle to do a good job, at an emotional level i have always thought he was the man, but the results and performances are terrible. It has got to the stage where people at work have stopped taking the piss. Maybe the saddest thing for me is I am not sure I give a shit, never thought about going yesterday, not going to blackburn, will go the newcastle game. When Fulham scored 2 quick goals i was watching soccer saturday and pissing arround on t'internet, my immediate reaction was 'blimey betfair updates for goals quickly' a good minute or so before soccer saturday reported fulhams first goal. Quote
burnden Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Coyle is just not a good manager nuff said Quote
Youri Djorkaeff Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 We've actually lost 18 games out of our last 21 - that's a mind boggling 86% loss record or equivalent to just SIXTEEN points over a full season. Over the last 38 games out record reads - won 10, drawn 2, lost TWENTY-SIX - for 32 points - in other words relegation form since before LAST Christmas! Oh but it must be the chairman?s fault, or the players, or the run of difficult games we had, or because we have no money to buy anyone, or the players Coyle inherited were shite, or the players Coyle's bought have been shite, etc, etc, etc. About time some people faced up to the simple truth - Coyle isn't up to the job. We are going to get relegated - that is a forgone conclusion now. Are we really going to take points off United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool - so that leaves us with 16 games to get the 30 points or so need for safety. That means winning ALL our remaining home games (excluding those against the 'big six') to get 24 points - and the equivalent of drawing ALL our remaining away games (apart from the big six ones) to get the other 8 points. In other words to approximately get to the 40 point barrier and relative safety we need to get nearly as many points in just 16 games as we have done in the last THIRTY-EIGHT games! Does anyone truly believe that will happen? I don't. Quote
Youri Djorkaeff Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Come january we will probably be the only club in the premier league who wont have a penny to spend because of our inept running of finances over the past decade and come 2014 its going to fuk us right over. That isnt the fault of coyle and i still think he will keep us up this season desptite our passionlees group of players. Nuff said, if ive been a nobed then quote me wrong come may and il get the first person who does so a pint next season. Edited December 19, 2011 by Youri Djorkaeff Quote
Youri Djorkaeff Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) "3 years of defeats and its still crap ta..ra fergie" flown in the stretford after 3 seasons of united finishing mid table in the premier league, and now look what fergies done !!! Dont get me wrong im not saying coyles gona don what fergie did but this is proof that not everytime the fans get on the managements back does it mean its the fault of the management. Allardyce had a fair few blips just as worse as this before he took us to 6th in the top flight! As i said previouly quote me wrong in may!! Edited December 19, 2011 by Youri Djorkaeff Quote
Traf Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Allardyce openly admittedly that his team wasn't really good enough, but if he could get them all to play to their best at the same time: we'd be able to compete. Megson brought some decent players in, but didn't build a team. Coyle can't get the best out of what he's got. If you picked the following team: Jaaskelainen Riley, Wheater, Boyata, Alonso Eagles, Pratley, NRC, Petrov Ngog, Tuncay Subs: playing to their true potential, they should still be good enough to stay up. And Coyle brought 10 of that 11 in. Quote
desperado Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Allardyce openly admittedly that his team wasn't really good enough, but if he could get them all to play to their best at the same time: we'd be able to compete. Megson brought some decent players in, but didn't build a team. Coyle can't get the best out of what he's got. If you picked the following team: Jaaskelainen Riley, Wheater, Boyata, Alonso Eagles, Pratley, NRC, Petrov Ngog, Tuncay Subs: playing to their true potential, they should still be good enough to stay up. And Coyle brought 10 of that 11 in. You see this is the dilemma for me are these players, and the ones currently available, good enough to keep us up? I said it a few months back that these players weren't good enough and we would be in a relegation struggle. Whether It's Coyle or Hughes in charge I don't see the picture changing that much. And that's the depressing reality which I am trying to shake off before heading to ewood tomorrow. Quote
HomerJay Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 If these players aren't good enough, then there's fuck all chance of us ever building a team good enough I'm afraid. Quote
desperado Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 If these players aren't good enough, then there's fuck all chance of us ever building a team good enough I'm afraid. That's my worry. However I think one or two additions could possibly make a difference. Don't ask me who and I don't mean somebody unrealistic. We are missing players with some natural leadership qualities as SKD and Robbo have lost all form and confidence and cahill s mind is else where. That for me is having a massive negative impact. Quote
M G WHITES Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Should have kept Megson,all you Megson out Wankers,well done for geting us relegated Edited December 19, 2011 by M G WHITES Quote
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