Site Supporter HomerJay Posted April 8, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted April 8, 2012 "we" ain't saying anything You're just assuming everyone is wrong but you. And it's starting to annoy me. It's pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 So are we only saying mavies can play in one position now then? He cant play central in a 442 He cant play in one of the deeper 2 central roles in a 451 He has to play beyond a holding 2 in a 451 Is that what were saying about our potential player of the season and future england international? Im not stating this, im asking the question If only others were given so many excuses...... In a word, yes. I don't get what you're getting at, thats his position, playing off the striker, an attacking midfielder if you like. If that means that he isn't as good as people think, because he isn't the most versatile then so be it, but when played in his preferred position he is a very very good player. He's like Van Der Vaart (and no I don't think he is anywhere near as good), Van Der Vaart is pretty much a specialist in that position, he's not a striker but ask him to play as a central midfielder with defensive duties and responsibilities then he wouldn't be half the player he is. A lot of people consider Mark Davies to be a centre mid and expect him to be just as good whether he plays in a more attacking role or in a more disciplined role. In reality they couldn't be more wrong, he can just about do a job when he plays more defensively but almost every part of his natural game is taken away from him, like I say it would be like Redknapp asking Van Der Vaart to do a job sitting in centre mid. He is a quality player (I've never mentioned England btw) and he will get better, but don't expect him to be consistently good when he's played out of position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 In my view He isn't a future interntional Is, currently, a one-trick pony Isn't physical enough to be in a 2 But, is good enough to be in an exceptional 3 (Holden, Mavies, NRC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagermoot Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Paul McGrath on goals on sunday summed it up brilliantly No fight Which is worryin as all the other relegation stragglers seem to be playin out of their skins, wiggin very unlucky yesterday I think we should have a competition where the winner gets to do the team talks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 The Problem is we are Playing With 2 out and out wingers and that will always weaken you defensively and Coyle seems to want to play Pratley Further forward than Davies in my eyes an error of judgement Davies is clearly the better option in that role, unfortunately we don't have another genuine fit bread and butter midfield option so that is the conundrum Coyle has to figure out a plan, he also has to stop switching players out of position to accommodate what he thinks are his bright young things, although the rest of us already know there not really that bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Paul McGrath on goals on sunday summed it up brilliantly No fight Which is worryin as all the other relegation stragglers seem to be playin out of their skins, wiggin very unlucky yesterday I think we should have a competition where the winner gets to do the team talks We have taken 9 out of 12 points and after 1 shocker of a result people jump on the not trying bullshit. The fact is Coyle messed up and if he puts his head on straight we can steady the ship, now is not the time to press the panic button, just time for one of the senior pros to kick Coyle up the arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldensHairdo Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Carrying too many players who just aren't good enough.. Pratley - headless chicken N'Gog - ball just bounces off him and not strong enough to hold up the ball Eagles - crossing is crap and too lightweight Alonso - cant defend and no pace All of these arent up to it and don't deserve to be in that starting eleven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted April 8, 2012 So are we only saying mavies can play in one position now then? He cant play central in a 442 He cant play in one of the deeper 2 central roles in a 451 He has to play beyond a holding 2 in a 451 Is that what were saying about our potential player of the season and future england international? Im not stating this, im asking the question If only others were given so many excuses...... Yes, he needs to give more support to our striker who is now not actually expected to be a goal scorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 So are we only saying mavies can play in one position now then? He cant play central in a 442 He cant play in one of the deeper 2 central roles in a 451 He has to play beyond a holding 2 in a 451 Is that what were saying about our potential player of the season and future england international? Im not stating this, im asking the question If only others were given so many excuses...... genius you take comments from one person, put them alongside comments from another to try and ridicule both ? maybe people have different views, did you go yesterday or watch the game ? alonso was so far out his depth it was embarrasing. them bouncers should have hit you harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Carrying too many players who just aren't good enough.. Pratley - headless chicken N'Gog - ball just bounces off him and not strong enough to hold up the ball Eagles - crossing is crap and too lightweight Alonso - cant defend and no pace All of these arent up to it and don't deserve to be in that starting eleven. Disagree, all the others yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Carrying too many players who just aren't good enough.. Pratley - headless chicken N'Gog - ball just bounces off him and not strong enough to hold up the ball Eagles - crossing is crap and too lightweight Alonso - cant defend and no pace All of these arent up to it and don't deserve to be in that starting eleven. And you can add Ryo to that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldensHairdo Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Fair enough but even carrying 3 players against any premership side is suicide... I am not going to say that today was the be all and end all as it seemed everyone had a bad day at the office and every team as those but Coyle needs to learn from it and change his selection tomorrow accordingly... Bogdan Steinsson Ream Wheater Ricketts Ryo NRC Mavies Petrov Sordell SKD/NGog Give Sordell a chance, let him loose in a game we are all expecting nothing from... He needs game time as may as well have not spent the money in Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldensHairdo Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I agree with the Ryo comment - but he is best of a bad bunch on the right wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Der Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I dont think Mr Miyagi is all that either. He is very easy to read IMO. a few step overs, down the outside cut in and cross it. Unfortunatley more often than nt, he doesnt get past the step over part of the process! That said, there is no other option at the minute so we just have to hope he starts producing the magic we have been told he can create Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 There is an option. Eagles made more on a contribution than Ryo yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 There is an option. Eagles made more on a contribution than Ryo yesterday. And he did at Wolves but can be awful as well like at Spuds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted April 8, 2012 i saw a bwfc family coach bricked at ipswich once so ipswich have got some nobs following them whats your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted April 8, 2012 So are we only saying mavies can play in one position now then? He cant play central in a 442 He cant play in one of the deeper 2 central roles in a 451 He has to play beyond a holding 2 in a 451 Is that what were saying about our potential player of the season and future england international? Im not stating this, im asking the question If only others were given so many excuses...... bogdan is shit at right back lets get shut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Disagree, all the others yes. Indeed, there was a punt out of defence yesterday that pretty much had snow on it and N'Gog stopped it dead at his feet and laid it off nicely to Cyril Davies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted April 8, 2012 There is an option. Eagles made more on a contribution than Ryo yesterday. i'd have made more of a contribution the jap was very poor and i don't have a complete downer on eagles, but how his free kicks yesterday were grim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 bogdan is shit at right back lets get shut that completely irrelevent and you know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 "we" ain't saying anything You're just assuming everyone is wrong but you. And it's starting to annoy me. It's pathetic Theres people on this forum that cant admit when they are wrong. Not all, but theres plenty. You are one of them. If you dont like me pointing it out then put me on ignore, it really is that simple. And for the record I dont always think im always right, im one of the few who has the balls to admit it when they get it wrong. Its a shame others dont as I then wouldn't have to point it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Theres people on this forum that cant admit when they are wrong. Not all, but theres plenty. You are one of them. If you dont like me pointing it out then put me on ignore, it really is that simple. And for the record I dont always think im always right, im one of the few who has the balls to admit it when they get it wrong. Its a shame others dont as I then wouldn't have to point it out. But your always wrong; so you should be admitting that all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Indeed, there was a punt out of defence yesterday that pretty much had snow on it and N'Gog stopped it dead at his feet and laid it off nicely to Cyril Davies. So he controlled it once. Big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted April 8, 2012 that completely irrelevent and you know it ok, petrov is a shit centre back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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