DazBob Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Yay or nay? Every other country seems to be doing it to suit themselves. Ideally we'd have enough English born, bred or through their parents not to have to snaffle players who only qualify through having lived here for 5 years ... but seeing as that's not the case I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledwhite2 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 What's the point? This kid at United, from my limited knowledge of it, has lived here for 2-3 years only because he came to play football for United He grew up in Belgium, Albanian descent Shouldn't play for us IMO, he is only here because he's a footballer, if international football isn't about repping your country then what's the point? Of course in this day and age some players have dual nationalities and divided loyalties but in this case, like Arteta and Almunia who I believe might've qualified too, he's not in any way shape or form English Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek smalls Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 where does the line get drawn then? i have a mate with english parents but they were living in germany when he was born. what nationality is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbulb Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 As English as Mo Farah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 where does the line get drawn then? i have a mate with english parents but they were living in germany when he was born. what nationality is he? Is he any good at football or other sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek smalls Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 As English as Mo Farah. but how english is that? its alright people saying `he`s not english` but you have to draw a line somewhere. not sure how you do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted October 9, 2013 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2013 Has Mo Farah ever claimed to be English, given that he runs for Great Britain? The Jocks are cheeky cunts as they are after any fucker that qualifies for them through nationalisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 A bloke not born in England but English in every other sense of the word is fine by me. A Belgian lad that's lived here for 3 years? Get to fuck. We already don't get enough English youngsters through as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelEP Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Maybe they should be judged on their accents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Owen Hargreaves was a foreigner playing for England. The England cricket or rugby sides would be fucked if it wasn't for foreigners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 A bloke not born in England but English in every other sense of the word is fine by me. A Belgian lad that's lived here for 3 years? Get to fuck. We already don't get enough English youngsters through as it is. What if he'd been here since he was 10 and spoke with an English accent? If 10 yrs old is ok then what about if he was 12 ... or 13 ... or 14, etc. At what point does it become acceptable? Balls to it. There are rules in place, if someone fits the criteria then that's fine by me. if 'our' English players are good enough then they'll make it. If not, fuck em. I'll be cheering on Abdul Hitler when he scores the winner for us in the Iraqi WC final in 2026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Born in England. English Parents. Spent at least 70% of the time between the starting date of school & the leaving age of school in this country. Otherwise its a nay for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 What's the point? This kid at United, from my limited knowledge of it, has lived here for 2-3 years only because he came to play football for United He grew up in Belgium, Albanian descent Shouldn't play for us IMO, he is only here because he's a footballer, if international football isn't about repping your country then what's the point? Of course in this day and age some players have dual nationalities and divided loyalties but in this case, like Arteta and Almunia who I believe might've qualified too, he's not in any way shape or form English Apparently he's turned down the chance to play for Belgium and wants to represent Kosovo but they're not recognised by FIFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Feck him. Its the lads that make way for him that is the issue for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 9, 2013 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2013 where does the line get drawn then? i have a mate with english parents but they were living in germany when he was born. what nationality is he? he isn't german well, depends on when he moved, but I would say, he ain't german Stuart Holden is technically Scottish, but if you're there from a "young" age and integrate I guess it's up to that person when they "come of age" as to what they think they are if you've got foreign parents and you're born and bred here, that's ok too, like ozil for germany, or amir kahn not having that belgian lad though, been here 3 years since he was 15, no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 9, 2013 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2013 Has Mo Farah ever claimed to be English, given that he runs for Great Britain? aye, in that he was in the English commonwealth team but then pulled out so he could have some rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitePrice Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Born in England. English Parents. Spent at least 70% of the time between the starting date of school & the leaving age of school in this country. Otherwise its a nay for me. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Owen Hargreaves was a foreigner playing for England. The England cricket or rugby sides would be fucked if it wasn't for foreigners Or maybe their authorities would be forced to build a national youth system that fits such critia that they wouldn't have to do so? We spend gazillions a year on grass roots football to nurture kids into stars. If we start going down the route of cricket at rugby we may as well pack it all in a set camp up across Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 A bloke not born in England but English in every other sense of the word is fine by me. A Belgian lad that's lived here for 3 years? Get to fuck. We already don't get enough English youngsters through as it is. Not that it matters now, but would you have considered Muamba to be English then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 9, 2013 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2013 as english as holden is american Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 the concept of nationality is getting more and more diluted, and some people should think a bit more before criticising. you know, the born in Bolton, live in Bolton, die in Bolton brigade my half-brother was born in Gibraltar, lived in Spain all his life, regards himself as English. But I have noticed a tendency to support Spain after England are knocked out of football tournaments. Fucking twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitePrice Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 What if he'd been here since he was 10 and spoke with an English accent? If 10 yrs old is ok then what about if he was 12 ... or 13 ... or 14, etc. At what point does it become acceptable? Balls to it. There are rules in place, if someone fits the criteria then that's fine by me. if 'our' English players are good enough then they'll make it. If not, fuck em. I'll be cheering on Abdul Hitler when he scores the winner for us in the Iraqi WC final in 2026 Fucking Abdul Hitler is shit on Champ Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted October 9, 2013 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2013 as english as holden is american Given his folks live in Hindley, how Scotch is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 We spend gazillions a year on grass roots football to nurture kids into stars. Working a treat too, innit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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