Not in Crawley Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 So last week I was on one of those management retreat courses. Anyway, it was very good but on speaker was going on about the Busy Culture - the need to feel as though you having to be constantly doing something rather than stepping back and looking at the strategic development of organisations. As an example he illustrated this fact by the 'Ding Time' apparently one major lift manufacturer has, in the last 10 years. reduced the time it takes to step into a lift and the doors to close from 4 to 2 seconds as people can't stand waiting around for even this short amount of time anymore. Going to far as to say that many close door buttons are not actually wired to anything, they are just there to make the person in the lift feel as though they are doing something. I believe we have a resident lift expert - so is this utter bollocks or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 It will.be hard to tell. Most of the stuff he posts on here is bollox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyroad58 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Our resident lift engineer isn't wired up properly either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 All door close buttons are wired in the door close circuit. All controllers have a door close timer, nowadays its all processors so just the matter of plugging in a test tool going to the corresponding parametre and changing the timer. Older panels have relays wgich are adjustable The door close button bypasses the timer if its pressed before it times out Most doors are set between 4 and 6 seconds to give people time especially the less abled to get into the lift. The timer on processors are activated after the detector between the doors is made up after its been broken by someone passing inbetween the doors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 10, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2014 All door close buttons are wired in the door close circuit. All controllers have a door close timer, nowadays its all processors so just the matter of plugging in a test tool going to the corresponding parametre and changing the timer. Older panels have relays wgich are adjustable The door close button bypasses the timer if its pressed before it times out Most doors are set between 4 and 6 seconds to give people time especially the less abled to get into the lift. The timer on processors are activated after the detector between the doors is made up after its been broken by someone passing inbetween the doors This Malcolm W-esque post was brought to you by Jay Jay Schindler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Surprised they never mentioned fuzzy logic as its named which is a programme to speed up traffic and reduce waiting time Instead of having push buttons they have a keypad and you press in the desired floor, the controller then sees what lift is travelling in that direction and will asign it accordingly. Cuts out people pressing up when they want to go down and the lift stopping in that direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 10, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2014 I went in a lift in Dubai last year and I'm fairly sure it went up 30 floors in about 3 seconds. Fucking amazing. What the speed of the fastest lift on earth then Mr C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex_midlandwhite Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Surprised they never mentioned fuzzy logic as its named which is a programme to speed up traffic and reduce waiting time Instead of having push buttons they have a keypad and you press in the desired floor, the controller then sees what lift is travelling in that direction and will asign it accordingly. Cuts out people pressing up when they want to go down and the lift stopping in that direction I saw a lift like that at the radisson is Glasgow don't see many. Being allocated a lift number confused me :-s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Surprised they never mentioned fuzzy logic as its named which is a programme to speed up traffic and reduce waiting time Instead of having push buttons they have a keypad and you press in the desired floor, the controller then sees what lift is travelling in that direction and will asign it accordingly. Cuts out people pressing up when they want to go down and the lift stopping in that direction We have had them fitted at work and they are fucking shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I went in a lift in Dubai last year and I'm fairly sure it went up 30 floors in about 3 seconds. Fucking amazing. What the speed of the fastest lift on earth then Mr C? 18 metres a second, in that shanghai tower china, mitsubishi lifts. The best in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 10, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2014 18 metres a second, in that shanghai tower china, mitsubishi lifts. The best in the world Have you been in it? I bet that one that Neo cut the strings on in The Matrix was faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 No not been china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Does it feel like you're going that fast. Edited March 10, 2014 by no balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I bet Gonzo has got pretty high as a result of a few Mitsubishis in his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Girl Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) I saw a lift like that at the radisson is Glasgow don't see many. Being allocated a lift number confused me :-s The Hilton on Park Lane has that system. The restaurant on the 24th floor has its own button too. Edited March 11, 2014 by Exiled Girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 11, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2014 The lifts in Rockerfella centre are very fast, only took about 40 seconds to get right to the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Centre Point has a quite impressive set of lifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Taipei 101 has some pretty quick lifts as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Shard were fast. Didn't feel right when I walked out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 11, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2014 I've just timed the one at our office and it takes 9 seconds from bottom to top. We only have 2 storeys, mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Did you time how long it took for the doors to shut though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Did you time how long it took for the doors to shut though? Enough time to press the "door shut" button 74 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter White on Tyne Posted March 11, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2014 Used to work at Lloyd's of London just after they built the "new" Building with the glass lifts outside. It took them a while to realise that you could upskirt with the adjacent lift and they fitted a "modesty" screen on the bottom of the lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Used to work at Lloyd's of London just after they built the "new" Building with the glass lifts outside. It took them a while to realise that you could upskirt with the adjacent lift and they fitted a "modesty" screen on the bottom of the lift. I saw brigette neilsens crack like that, cascades glass lift sun city, I was working in the adjacent pit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter White on Tyne Posted March 11, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2014 I saw brigette neilsens crack like that, cascades glass lift sun city, I was working in the adjacent pit Christ, I bet it was like a rip in a fur-trapper's hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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