no balls Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Sorry no expert on this, Israelies occupied in Palestine after the 2nd world war and there has been tension ever since. The simple answer. If some one could explain more, please feel free as I'd like to know too. there's plenty on the net. I'd not use the word 'occupied' though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 there's plenty on the net. I'd not use the word 'occupied' though In other word you don't know and we have to google Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 In other word you don't know and we have to google Thanks Not really as I read and listen to those with knowledge of the area, but whatever someone says if the reader does not want believe then it's pointless to post. There's too many agendas which is why I mentioned the word 'occupied' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted July 21, 2014 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2014 That's the end of that chat then. Obviously not. I doubt many folk have to be fair, so their opinions are equally null and void. It's all a big Jewish conspiracy isn't it? You sound a bit like George Galloway. No one mentioned Jewish. Makes no odds to me but if you feel it strengths your argument then, aye, notorious anti-Semite me, despite being engaged to one a few years back. I stopped reading there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Not really as I read and listen to those with knowledge of the area, but whatever someone says if the reader does not want believe then it's pointless to post. There's too many agendas which is why I mentioned the word 'occupied' So is it widely believed the bbc have an agenda?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So is it widely believed the bbc have an agenda?? a post on here has suggested it. I don't think they have but again, it depends on your viewpoint. Maybe there's folk think Al Jazeera do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 21, 2014 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2014 i've been waiting for this one maggie - can you agree with this this is an almighty mess the un and the wider community have contributed to it hamas are cunts the kids on the beach arent hamas if somebody decided to drop tens of thousands of persecuted africans in to the home counties fcuking off the locals, thered be one almighty kick off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted July 21, 2014 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2014 So is it widely believed the bbc have an agenda?? I'm not a conspiracy theorist, despite what some folk might claim. However I noticed on Twatter on Sunday there was a massive Free Gaza march in London, the photo showed what looked like tens of thousands of people. Yet there was no mention of it on the BBC during the day. I'd been glued to BBC News due to MH17, I would have thought a demo on such a scale would have warranted a mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 21, 2014 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2014 oh aye, to understand the conflict a bit more, read about the formation of israel my cards on the table, the arabs got shafted big time and continue to get shafted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 21, 2014 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm not a conspiracy theorist, despite what some folk might claim. However I noticed on Twatter on Sunday there was a massive Free Gaza march in London, the photo showed what looked like tens of thousands of people. Yet there was no mention of it on the BBC during the day. I'd been glued to BBC News due to MH17, I would have thought a demo on such a scale would have warranted a mention. the manc one got a brief mention on radio manc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaarsh Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm not a conspiracy theorist, despite what some folk might claim. However I noticed on Twatter on Sunday there was a massive Free Gaza march in London, the photo showed what looked like tens of thousands of people. Yet there was no mention of it on the BBC during the day. I'd been glued to BBC News due to MH17, I would have thought a demo on such a scale would have warranted a mention. You sounds like Owen Jones. The same 2500 lefty twats march in Parliament Square every Saturday, everyone ignores them and they bitch and moan about a right wing media conspiracy from the Tory controlled BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So is it widely believed the bbc have an agenda?? http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=eb9_1401634587 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 21, 2014 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2014 seeing as NB objects to 'occupied territories' is this taken form wikipedo incorrrect? it continues to be designated as an occupying power in the Gaza Strip by the United Nations Security Council, and the United Nations General Assembly must admit, the term occupied territories is one i grew up with and it seems that the occupation has increased rather than lessened as ive got older Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I was referring to Israel being called occupied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted July 21, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2014 The fact is, there are two sides who want to occupy the same space but cannot stand each other. Me and the wife manage so I don't see why they can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 21, 2014 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2014 ah, ive never thought of israel being occupied parts of palestine are definitely occupied - some of it 'legally' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteboy Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 if somebody decided to drop tens of thousands of persecuted africans in to the home counties fcuking off the locals, thered be one almighty kick off not sure any africans lived in that area a 1000 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) That part of the world the Jews have always lived if they didn't have a state of their own the likes of Hamas would practice ethnic cleansing that's why they rightly deserve there own land, when the Jews gave land back that they had cultivated and brought back from the desert the Arabs then neglected it and it returned back to it's original state. How can there be any diplomacy with the Arabs when Hamas want to eradicate Israel. The sad part of all this is the average man, women and children in Gaza pawns in Hamas's sick propaganda game. Edited July 21, 2014 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have noticed that a great many of the folk who are worried about the numbers of immigrants, particularly Muslims coming to the UK seem unable to comprehend why plonking a new country in the middle east should have caused such a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have noticed that a great many of the folk who are worried about the numbers of immigrants, particularly Muslims coming to the UK seem unable to comprehend why plonking a new country in the middle east should have caused such a problem. It was not the best idea in hind sight, but considering the persecution that they’ve had over many centuries what else was there to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The fact is, there are two sides who want to occupy the same space but cannot stand each other. Me and the wife manage so I don't see why they can't. just move in to the garage simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 It was not the best idea in hind sight, but considering the persecution that they’ve had over many centuries what else was there to do I'm sure there were plenty of other displaced peoples throughout the past 2000 years. The idea was being muted well before the second world war. The Balfour declaration was in 1917. We've done pretty well though. We're largely responsible for India and Pakistan as well as Israel and Palestine. Bagsy we don't invent any new countries for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted July 21, 2014 Author Site Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2014 Serious question, why have Israel expanded their borders so many times and also then built homes on land they know is not theirs? I don't 'get' that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have noticed that a great many of the folk who are worried about the numbers of immigrants, particularly Muslims coming to the UK seem unable to comprehend why plonking a new country in the middle east should have caused such a problem. The Jews have always lived in the Middle East Islam/Moslems don't want to let them live peacefully that's why they need their own state your statement is not remotely connected or relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Serious question, why have Israel expanded their borders so many times and also then built homes on land they know is not theirs? I don't 'get' that at all. Partly to protect themselves and distance themselves from Arabs chucking rockets at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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