gonzo Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rizlar said: I thought Henderson had a good game excellent leader on the pitch never stops talking . Proper captain that lad. Does the shit you don't see. Just said on radio Kane hasnt scored for England in open play for 11 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, gonzo said: Proper captain that lad. Does the shit you don't see. Just said on radio Kane hasnt scored for England in open play for 11 games. He will get a hat trick against France ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Never understand the stick Henderson gets. Puts in a shift and never stops yapping at those around him. Rashford MOTM but Henderson pushes him close for what he did for the whole team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 One thing that Southgate does is picks/creates an environment where they all like and play for each other. I really fell out of love with the national team when we had the ‘golden generation’ I hated most of the team. I see it as no coincidence that Southgate is delivering the best bar Sir Alf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Maybe he knows what he's doing. We've topped the group and only struggled against the team that come second. We'd have loved that pre Southgate.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 30, 2022 Members Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You forgot. Wales are shit. The important point. We have drawn with USA and beaten two very ordinary sides. You can only play what has been put in front of you though so fair play. First goal achieved but feet need to be kept on the ground. Senegal will be a more difficult challenge but I think England will overcome them. Then it gets interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 30, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 8 hours ago, bolty58 said: The important point. We have drawn with USA and beaten two very ordinary sides. You can only play what has been put in front of you though so fair play. First goal achieved but feet need to be kept on the ground. Senegal will be a more difficult challenge but I think England will overcome them. Then it gets interesting. Whilst my quip was just that, it is true that it should get more difficult from now on in. That is the very nature of a competition though, and is the same for all sides. If we continue to play with a higher energy level we can do well. That notwithstanding, I'm not sure about our chances against France in a potential quarter final. They've got some of the best attacking talent around, though I reckon their defence can still be troubled. Senegal to worry about first though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Eddie said: Jude Bellingham is already a ridiculously good footballer. Love it when players have that fearlessness of youth as well.    @Pablo could you please confirm you are happy with that opinion 😅😉?  Yep, good to go, mate. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Pablo said:  Yep, good to go, mate. 😉 Belting, he plays in Germany too - told you I know my stuff, Bayern have a serious player on their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eddie said: Belting, he plays in Germany too - told you I know my stuff, Bayern have a serious player on their hands.  🤣🤣Well played..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 30, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2022 i dont like henderson, never have and i dont think im going to change my mind - i think it was v iceland when he finished me off its alright playing him against shit like wales, but when we need 11 on the pitch, hes not the man for me and, especially when hes not playing the defensive mid role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Casino said: i dont like henderson, never have and i dont think im going to change my mind - i think it was v iceland when he finished me off its alright playing him against shit like wales, but when we need 11 on the pitch, hes not the man for me and, especially when hes not playing the defensive mid role He shouts a lot, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted November 30, 2022 Members Share Posted November 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Casino said: i dont like henderson, never have and i dont think im going to change my mind - i think it was v iceland when he finished me off its alright playing him against shit like wales, but when we need 11 on the pitch, hes not the man for me and, especially when hes not playing the defensive mid role I've never been a huge fan either ... but ... he was an integral part of the Liverpool side that won the league and Klopp had every faith in him. Sometimes one just has to accept a player is more important to a side than one can actually see. Despite Southgate spending every waking hour thinking about gays and blacks rather than coaching his team, he's doing okay and I'm happy to put my trust in him, even though I don't necessarily agree with his selections at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 30, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, DazBob said: I've never been a huge fan either ... but ... he was an integral part of the Liverpool side that won the league and Klopp had every faith in him. Sometimes one just has to accept a player is more important to a side than one can actually see. Despite Southgate spending every waking hour thinking about gays and blacks rather than coaching his team, he's doing okay and I'm happy to put my trust in him, even though I don't necessarily agree with his selections at times. agree with all the above  all id say is that liverpool have better players than most teams top level internationally, i doubt we can carry a player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Casino said: agree with all the above  all id say is that liverpool have better players than most teams top level internationally, i doubt we can carry a player you don't carry champions league winners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted November 30, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) He’s England’s Karl Henry. 😉 Edited November 30, 2022 by Steejay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted November 30, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2022 Jude Bellingham would walk in to any team in this compo. I think you need a Henderson there to sit and dictate, let the young lads play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Does the dirty work He’s certainly done well for himself getting the move to Liverpool and playing in a very good side few years ago along side the best in the world, would he get in a city/Madrid/Bayern etc midfield probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Does the dirty work He’s certainly done well for himself getting the move to Liverpool and playing in a very good side few years ago along side the best in the world, would he get in a city/Madrid/Bayern etc midfield probably not If he wasnt English he probably would. Folk wank over Kante for his running and dirty work. Hes 4 times the player Pogba is too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted November 30, 2022 Members Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, L/H White said: you don't carry champions league winners Djimi Traore has a CL winners medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, L/H White said: you don't carry champions league winners Have you seen the list of players who have won that Cup !?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobbypond Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 David May won the treble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 In the pub last night, having seen the line up, my mate and I had a little bet on which England player would have the most touches of the ball - I chose Maguire and he chose Stones. It was a close run thing, somewhat complicated by the fact they kept passing it to each other with Pickford occasionally getting involved in the first half but Maguire edged it. Just like watching the Wanderers for the first 45 - loads of possession across the back and f*** all going forward. Hard to criticise Southgate's tactics really as it softened Wales up for a more attacking second half approach and he got a few squad players on for a run out. Senegal should be do-able but there'll have to be a a huge step up after that with France or Argentina looking likely for a QF encounter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, Pablo said: Have you seen the list of players who have won that Cup !?! Henderson has done a bit more than simply win a CL though. 2 finals as well. Plus a League winners medal and numerous other cups. All as captain. Finalist of Euros and Semi of WC too. The lads done alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emus wig Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, gonzo said: Henderson has done a bit more than simply win a CL though. 2 finals as well. Plus a League winners medal and numerous other cups. All as captain. Finalist of Euros and Semi of WC too. The lads done alright. Every team needs a player like Henderson or Rice or both they’re making Maguire look like a decent centre half . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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