(That long since we've had any, couldn't find the thread)

Alan Nixon: "Top Liverpool starlet Cameron Branagan will Ben allowed out on loan in Jan.

Bolton lead the race for the 20 year old midfielder"

Edited December 11, 20169 yr by Ratwhite

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

I guessed shoretire would return end of the season

I think chances are still high

Go on, tell me hes playing top level farmers next year!

Will captain AFC Amalfi Coast to the Serie A title next year confirmed.

Speaking of confirmed... Mbete?

19 minutes ago, Casino said:

I guessed shoretire would return end of the season

I think chances are still high

Go on, tell me hes playing top level farmers next year!

Hopefully not 

4 hours ago, woolli said:

Not weaker? Lets just evaluate.

Baxter, freebie, Trafford, 19 million.  

Playing devil's advocate but we could say Baxter is experienced and played loads of Championship games, Trafford's a kids who's never played above L1, so its an upgrade.  Anyway let's assess that after a few games, same with Cogley, nobody knows yet.

14 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Playing devil's advocate but we could say Baxter is experienced and played loads of Championship games, Trafford's a kids who's never played above L1, so its an upgrade.  Anyway let's assess that after a few games, same with Cogley, nobody knows yet.

Quite.

A stupid analogy, as Traf was a promising young keeper with little experience nor success when he first came.

Until we've seen the new lad we don't know. Plus, even if he isn't as good as Traf, we can't afford to buy someone who is, given he's now become a mulit-million pound signing.

Bonkers way of thinking. 

2 hours ago, DazBob said:

What is the 'right' frame of mind?

To moan like fuck when there's nothing you can do about it anyway?

Says the one who hounded MJ out the club

5 minutes ago, Zico said:

Says the one who hounded MJ out the club

It worked.

38 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Playing devil's advocate but we could say Baxter is experienced and played loads of Championship games, Trafford's a kids who's never played above L1, so its an upgrade.  Anyway let's assess that after a few games, same with Cogley, nobody knows yet.

Trafford might be worth 19 million but that’s down to potential. Was he the best keeper in league 1 last season ? Don’t think many would say he was .
Baxter certainly be a better keeper at present 

Edited July 11, 20232 yr by Farnywhite

20 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Quite.

A stupid analogy, as Traf was a promising young keeper with little experience nor success when he first came.

Until we've seen the new lad we don't know. Plus, even if he isn't as good as Traf, we can't afford to buy someone who is, given he's now become a mulit-million pound signing.

Bonkers way of thinking. 

A stupid analogy? Not getting that? Baxter looks like a proven goalie, who should do well in our league. Not saying we could have ever afforded Traf,, never suggested that. Im suggesting that Traf is a better goalie, unless Burnley like spunking 19 million away?

We can't pay that sort of money, so your point is meaningless. Even if it does technically weaken us, there is nothing we can do about it. 

The lad from Chelsea might also have a great season and also move to the Premier league in a year or two's time- no one knows.

You could say the same thing whenever any club sells or loses a top player to someone higher up, but clubs move on and replace with someone else. The way of things.

Is it not possible to think we are weaker but also accept we are a good few weeks to go yet.

our squad was weakened in January with poor strikers imo. I get theory of adding size but they offered nothing. 
 

traf and Bradley going are big losses but there is no reason the new keeps and full back won’t be good for the team. Having to use multiple outlets may even help the side. 
 

we’ve not been linked with anyone I’ve heard of so not concerned when we don’t sign them. Trust the process. If it doesn’t work / we start badly folk can be pissed off. 
 

I don’t understand why we don’t just play matches within the team for fitness then a few competitive friendlies. Was Johnstone sticking on a contract or happy to sign ? If he was sticking on it I feel for him as it sounds a bad one 

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Playing devil's advocate but we could say Baxter is experienced and played loads of Championship games, Trafford's a kids who's never played above L1, so its an upgrade.  Anyway let's assess that after a few games, same with Cogley, nobody knows yet.

 

Is 28 games 'loads'? Why didn't Hull or any other Championship side keep him? It's surely relevant that at the end of their respective loan spells one has gone to the Premier League as one of the most expensive goalkeepers of all time, and the other has signed for us on a free.

Look, on paper he's about as good as we could hope for, but it's surely time to stop digging when it comes to Trafford's abilities.

4 hours ago, Eddie said:

We’ve lost 2 of our starting 11, both players that weren’t ours.

1 we’ve replaced with about a good an option as we could have possibly imagined. Anyone quoting losing “a £19m player” - what difference does that make, unless we spend £20m on a keeper then it’s always going to be the case, he was a failed Accy Stan keeper before he came to us.

The other we still haven’t replaced.

Any mention of losing MJ, Lee etc. is pointless - it’s our decision because they weren’t good enough and they generally didn’t play.

We’ve lost Johnston to injury but gained Iredale (who I’m still convinced is a better fit for a LCB in our system but completely an unproven theory).

We’ve got rid of Kachunga but have JDB back.

AND STILL WE HAVE A MONTH AND A HALF OF A TRANSFER WINDOW LEFT.

It’s like being halfway through building a house and someone going “that looks shit”. Well yeah, its not finished it yet, it’s not even got a roof or windows for fuck sake, what a stupid comment. Come back when it’s finished and then see what you think.

Off season is mad, bring on Lincoln and people can start moaning about our keeper passing to our centre backs again.

 

I do wonder what people expect to see when they come on a messageboard about a football club in July.

Lock the forum and everyone come back after 10 games?

44 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

We can't pay that sort of money, so your point is meaningless. Even if it does technically weaken us, there is nothing we can do about it. 

The lad from Chelsea might also have a great season and also move to the Premier league in a year or two's time- no one knows.

You could say the same thing whenever any club sells or loses a top player to someone higher up, but clubs move on and replace with someone else. The way of things.

So what are you actually saying? Nothing matters, we are having a great pre season?  My point is, at present, which i have stressed all along, we are weaker than last season. Thats it really!

1 hour ago, woolli said:

A stupid analogy? Not getting that? Baxter looks like a proven goalie, who should do well in our league. Not saying we could have ever afforded Traf,, never suggested that. Im suggesting that Traf is a better goalie, unless Burnley like spunking 19 million away?

I know this is splitting hairs but I keep hearing 19 mil and its only that if he achieves X, Y and Z.  Could be champions league qualification or 50 England caps.  14 mil is still an incredible fee but its not 19. 

Clearly Trafford's going to have a decent career and has great potential, but its not a given that he's better than championship standard keepers right now.  He simply hasn't been tested, but good luck to him (if not Burnley), he's obviously a great lad with the right attitude.

6 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

I do wonder what people expect to see when they come on a messageboard about a football club in July.

Lock the forum and everyone come back after 10 games?

At least some rationality. Talk about transfers, discuss where we could improve, be excited by potential signings, be pissed off when we miss out on one - just don’t lose perspective and use missing out on a couple of seemingly strong targets to have a go at Markham / Evatt et al. because it makes no sense at all and so ruins any chance of reasonable discussion about a football club in July.

5 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Is 28 games 'loads'? Why didn't Hull or any other Championship side keep him? It's surely relevant that at the end of their respective loan spells one has gone to the Premier League as one of the most expensive goalkeepers of all time, and the other has signed for us on a free.

Look, on paper he's about as good as we could hope for, but it's surely time to stop digging when it comes to Trafford's abilities.

Hull signed Karl Darlow while Baxter was injured, no disgrace being 2nd choice to him.  Why did Kieran Lee, Santos, Dapo, John, MJ, Jones etc end up playing in the bottom half of L2?  It happens for loads of reasons, injuries being one which is one reason we got Lee, and probably Baxter.

Darlow was the next England No 1 once too (huge move to Newcastle).  Jack Butland was another that was the next No 1, it happens, its nobody's fault, but I say its far too soon to say Trafford, or any other 19 year old, will be Prem standard for years to come.  Not sure what you mean about digging, just chat and opinions about Bolton players.

I don't want Trafford to sign for Burnley, because I'd like the lad to be successful.

Its basically a fancy loan to aid FFP isnt it

Work with Citys future manager for a bit and we will give you your 19m back next season. 

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Its basically a fancy loan to aid FFP isnt it

Work with Citys future manager for a bit and we will give you your 19m back next season. 

They’ve stumped up the £4.5m bond and paid people on here to say they’ve invested 😂

MJ officially gone.

To MKD

Good luck fella!

Edited July 12, 20232 yr by Wanderlust

Wish him all the best. Very reliable player for us.

Hoping one out means one in shortly 

Wish him well.

As important as anyone in our promotion from L2, to the point it was a disaster if he wasn’t available.

We’ve moved on, he’s not quite mobile enough to play centre mid in our current set up and shouldn’t be considered as a back up centre back (although to his credit did a cracking job when needed last season). It’s a perfect example of the continuous improvement in the squad but he’ll do well at MK and will be fondly remembered for his part in the revival.

17 minutes ago, Eddie said:

As important as anyone in our promotion from L2, to the point it was a disaster if he wasn’t available.

Shows how far we've progressed in a year.

Booooooooooooo, Evatt Out.

2 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

MJ officially gone.

To MKD

Good luck fella!

@DazBob