Think this was always coming with us increasing the scouting team. 
 

We continue to evolve and change.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

First two could still happen, and we don't know exactly what is been offered etc- only reports.

We don't know what was offered to Roughan- if anything- as again they were just reports.

Nothing official from the club on any of them.

There's nothing official on any of them because the club don't comment on such things 

Going off reports those were the knock backs we've had 

The only thing the club will be official on is actual signings  

Like nothing as official was said until the Collins deal was complete, but we all knew well before he was off, because of the the reports

Hopefully we'll go back with improved offers for the players we want

1 hour ago, only1swanny said:

I'd rather they take time and buy right, than IE's panicking purchases. 

 

We haven't really took our time though, quite the opposite, 5 signings before the squad returned for training along with other bids put in 

 

4 hours ago, Zico said:

There's nothing official on any of them because the club don't comment on such things 

Going off reports those were the knock backs we've had 

The only thing the club will be official on is actual signings  

Like nothing as official was said until the Collins deal was complete, but we all knew well before he was off, because of the the reports

Hopefully we'll go back with improved offers for the players we want

Exactly: that's what I said.

Only reports.

As for Collins, we didn't know for sure he was going, but it seemed likely. 

Rumours and reports don't mean much until its official. 

5 hours ago, only1swanny said:

I'd rather they take time and buy right, than IE's panicking purchases. 

 

We were praising Evatt for getting deals done quickly. 

Not sure they were panic buys neither, but not ones to broaden the scope of playing style.

Aye Evatt only panicked in Jan with Randall and Etete.

The damage was done in the summer signing McAtee, Matete and Scot Arfield and changing our whole system to a 5-1-1-2-1 

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye Evatt only panicked in Jan with Randall and Etete.

The damage was done in the summer signing McAtee, Matete and Scot Arfield and changing our whole system to a 5-1-1-2-1 

Arfield

Fucking hell I forgot about that 

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Exactly: that's what I said.

Only reports.

As for Collins, we didn't know for sure he was going, but it seemed likely. 

Rumours and reports don't mean much until its official. 

Knock backs are never made official though, in terms of club statements 

That was my point 

But I'm sure we've bid for the Salford and Celtic lad and been rejected 

And I heard from a reliable source Roughan had talks 

So in answer to the original question, I believe those are the knock backs we've had 

If you don't fair enough 

Surely knock backs are all part of the game? Some you win some you lose for a multitude of different reasons?

Some folk just like to get their knickers in a twist.

Based on their new scouting methodology perhaps they've been waiting for trials for potential free agents or pre season matches for contracted players so that they can see them "live". 

I think now preseason has started you'll start to see some movement. 

I am a little worried by the bids we've seemingly had rejected because they're for players that i think on the face of it that we can do better than. What's more worrying is that if we're being rejected for our first choices, how bang average are the second and third choices. ps before you say it I'm aware we're in League One, but these two 500k signings we're being linked with only have experience in League Two and the Shamrock league, that's miles away from even a lower end League One team level. 

Edited June 28, 20251 yr by Zog1

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

Aye Evatt only panicked in Jan with Randall and Etete.

The damage was done in the summer signing McAtee, Matete and Scot Arfield and changing our whole system to a 5-1-1-2-1 

Systems are a separate conversation, but Arfield started next to no league games so he was an irrelevance in that respect.

A bad season would have been even worse if IE hadn't got Matete, IMO. Pound for Pound one of IEs better signings and we'll do well to get better for no fee.

28 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Systems are a separate conversation, but Arfield started next to no league games so he was an irrelevance in that respect.

A bad season would have been even worse if IE hadn't got Matete, IMO. Pound for Pound one of IEs better signings and we'll do well to get better for no fee.

Know you've been consistent with your view on Matete, fair play, underwhelming for me really, not terrible but nothing he was particularly good at either IMO. 

2 hours ago, Zog1 said:

Based on their new scouting methodology perhaps they've been waiting for trials for potential free agents or pre season matches for contracted players so that they can see them "live". 

I think now preseason has started you'll start to see some movement. 

I am a little worried by the bids we've seemingly had rejected because they're for players that i think on the face of it that we can do better than. What's more worrying is that if we're being rejected for our first choices, how bang average are the second and third choices. ps before you say it I'm aware we're in League One, but these two 500k signings we're being linked with only have experience in League Two and the Shamrock league, that's miles away from even a lower end League One team level. 

We only bid what we can afford right?

 So if other clubs have more spending power than us then that’s the way it is.

B Team Dubem Eze has gone out on loan to Scunthorpe United.

20 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

B Team Dubem Eze has gone out on loan to Scunthorpe United.

I think he's one they had quite high hopes for

He's no longer a teenager and is going to the sixth tier

Bit in the paper int morn

Edited June 28, 20251 yr by L/H White

7 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think he's one they had quite high hopes for

He's no longer a teenager and is going to the sixth tier

Fifth tier, they got back to the National League last season, but agree he isn’t going to make it here by the looks although only 20.

54 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

Fifth tier, they got back to the National League last season, but agree he isn’t going to make it here by the looks although only 20.

Wouldn’t they have just moved him permanently if they didn’t believe he had any future here? Hopefully there’ll soon be news of more moving out and from the first not the B team.

According to Nixon, Celtic want 1 million for Kenny.

Just now, Blondi said:

According to Nixon, Celtic want 1 million for Kenny.

Know nothing about him apart from his Wiki page, but if we want him and Nixon is right (I know)  it suggests there’s a deal to be done presumably with a sell on clause.

 

13 hours ago, gonzo said:

Aye Evatt only panicked in Jan with Randall and Etete.

The damage was done in the summer signing McAtee, Matete and Scot Arfield and changing our whole system to a 5-1-1-2-1 

Randall wasnt a panic buy. We had been after him the previous window. 

19 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

Know nothing about him apart from his Wiki page, but if we want him and Nixon is right (I know)  it suggests there’s a deal to be done presumably with a sell on clause.

 

Scottish Sun running the same story at £1m. 

26 minutes ago, Arrested development said:

Randall wasnt a panic buy. We had been after him the previous window. 

Indeed.

Makes it even worse

 

£1m for a lad whos only played in LOI?

Bit heavy that.

 

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Indeed.

Makes it even worse

 

£1m for a lad whos only played in LOI?

Bit heavy that.

 

Agreed. I’m sure the negotiations will start 

12 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Indeed.

Makes it even worse

 

£1m for a lad whos only played in LOI?

Bit heavy that.

 

This is where sell-on clauses kick-in. Based on what we’ve seen £500k is a fair price, but if he turns out to be a superstar, you can have 10% of any profit. Sell for £5m and Celtic get their full £1m.

Edited June 29, 20251 yr by Rival Son