(That long since we've had any, couldn't find the thread)

Alan Nixon: "Top Liverpool starlet Cameron Branagan will Ben allowed out on loan in Jan.

Bolton lead the race for the 20 year old midfielder"

Edited December 11, 20169 yr by Ratwhite

57 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Does this close the door on ACD ?

Not sure it was ever realistically open.

33 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

No, far from it.

We still need two right wingers really.

Players that started at least one game on the right wing or right sided attacker: ACD, Apter, Forss, Kenny, Burstow

Left wing: Gale, Cissoko, CBT, Tutu.

If we add cups - Warren and CMG (I think). Not sure if JDC did.

Also lost the Dempsey out wide option.

Fair to say we're short of numbers for the wings given how often the first choice is unavailable or out of form.

Gale won't stand a chance in the Championship.

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Players that started at least one game on the right wing or right sided attacker: ACD, Apter, Forss, Kenny, Burstow

Left wing: Gale, Cissoko, CBT, Tutu.

If we add cups - Warren and CMG (I think). Not sure if JDC did.

Also lost the Dempsey out wide option.

Fair to say we're short of numbers for the wings given how often the first choice is unavailable or out of form.

Sobering

Does seem a strange signing to me, throughout the summer we've heard about how getting in loans will allow us to get in signings beyond our means, and i don't mean to pre judge but i can't see how this guy is beyond our means. He has only played in the French Ligue 2 which is equivalent to League 1, and he didn't exactly set the world alight there. The Championship is such a massive step up, we need to really be signing improvements if they're going to start. Worried about this one.

Edited Tuesday at 20:261 day by Zog1

23 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

Does seem a strange signing to me, throughout the summer we've heard about how getting in loans will allow us to get in signings beyond our means, and i don't mean to pre judge but i can't see how this guy is beyond our means. He has only played in the French Ligue 2 which is equivalent to League 1, and he didn't exactly set the world alight there. The Championship is such a massive step up, we need to really be signing improvements if they're going to start. Worried about this one.

I think all that's fair enough

Nixon suggesting we're signing a goalkeeper on loan

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Nixon suggesting we're signing a goalkeeper on loan

@meanderson93 called it.

He's deffo reading here

Hope it's Charles.Man City are on the verge of signing him

40 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Gale won't stand a chance in the Championship.

Give him a chance, he's clearly talented. Just never went though the academy system and thus has to learn the basics from scratch.

7 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Nixon suggesting we're signing a goalkeeper on loan

I really don't understand this whilst we currently have 4 contracted keepers.

Good goalkeepers, good enough for the Championship are a dime a dozen why are we loaning goalkeepers? when there are tons of experienced players like Paul Nardi (QPR's goalkeeper from last season) or Angus Gunn or even Mathew Ryan (might be a stretch).

We already have 4 this is madness.

Edited Tuesday at 20:591 day by Zog1

4 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

Good goalkeepers, good enough for the Championship are a dime a dozen why are we loaning goalkeepers? when there are tons of experienced players like Paul Nardi (QPR's goalkeeper from last season) or Angus Gunn or even Mathew Ryan (might be a stretch).

We already have 4 this is madness.

I think as we've seen in the past, good reliable goalkeepers aren't actually easy to come by, if they were dime a dozen at any level we wouldn't have spent half a season with Gilks in goal and another with Stoke's third choice as our saviour.

I've heard a name now, don't want to put it out there, but it's a good one with plenty of experience considering he is young.

5 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

I think as we've seen in the past, good reliable goalkeepers aren't actually easy to come by, if they were dime a dozen at any level we wouldn't have spent half a season with Gilks in goal and another with Stoke's third choice as our saviour.

I've heard a name now, don't want to put it out there, but it's a good one with plenty of experience considering he is young.

Let me guess James Beadle?

Does take away a loan spot in the match day squad players if your number 1 keeper who is starting each week is on loan .

Nine subs on the bench next season so think your limited to 5 loan to be included in tje match day

Edited Tuesday at 21:161 day by Farnywhite

Fergal missed out on signing this new lad in Belgium when he ended up at Augsburg instead. Another interesting thing is that when he got shifted to a striker at the end of last season he started scoring a few goals getting in behind so seems adaptable on either wing or even up top which could be useful especially away if relying on counters

59 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

Does seem a strange signing to me, throughout the summer we've heard about how getting in loans will allow us to get in signings beyond our means, and i don't mean to pre judge but i can't see how this guy is beyond our means. He has only played in the French Ligue 2 which is equivalent to League 1, and he didn't exactly set the world alight there. The Championship is such a massive step up, we need to really be signing improvements if they're going to start. Worried about this one.

fwiw Leicester bought Mahrez from Ligue 2 when in the championship so I guess you never know

We might already have four signed up but there's no way Broome, Hutch, and probably also Harrington are playing many, if any, minutes in our first-team this season

34 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

I think as we've seen in the past, good reliable goalkeepers aren't actually easy to come by, if they were dime a dozen at any level we wouldn't have spent half a season with Gilks in goal and another with Stoke's third choice as our saviour.

I've heard a name now, don't want to put it out there, but it's a good one with plenty of experience considering he is young.

Billy Crellin?

If a big chunk of your first team is made up of loans, you do 4 things: limit places in the squad for your own talent, limit your own potential assets, don't sign players who would have become assets and at the same time you're playing for the privilege.

Loans work at League 1 because of the business model, It's different in the Championship. Take Dom Ballard at Leyton Orient, they're never going to get more than £2-£3 million and while that might be ok for Leyton Orient, we're so expensive to run as a club, it'll never generate enough to make a difference. We can't afford to do an Oxford.

We need to make liabilities into assets, by using the space we have in our squad for the talent we own.

Edited Tuesday at 21:421 day by Zog1

44 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

I think as we've seen in the past, good reliable goalkeepers aren't actually easy to come by, if they were dime a dozen at any level we wouldn't have spent half a season with Gilks in goal and another with Stoke's third choice as our saviour.

I've heard a name now, don't want to put it out there, but it's a good one with plenty of experience considering he is young.

They were the result of us LOANING two inexperienced goalkeepers. You can't make this up.

It's all well and good talking about what the club should do with the squad, but maybe we focus on what they feasibly can do.

We can all agree an improvement at goalkeeper would be preferable, but we have many holes to fill in a squad that was already lacking in numbers and (in some areas) quality, so they must do what they can within their incredibly limited budget for the level to make those improvements.

If that is loans from Prem clubs for players experienced at the level, then I'd be hard pressed to moan about that.

Edited Tuesday at 21:521 day by meanderson93

41 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

I've heard a name now, don't want to put it out there, but it's a good one with plenty of experience considering he is young.

James Trafford? 😁

My guess would be Beadle, Brighton are stacked with keepers, he must be third choice there. 22 next week and already played 92 games at Championship level. He's not getting a first team start in the Prem yet and too young to sit on a bench.

23 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

We might already have four signed up but there's no way Broome, Hutch, and probably also Harrington are playing many, if any, minutes in our first-team this season

Yes, its irrelevant to say we've got 4 under contract when only 1 is going to be considered for regular championship games and a max 1 other (Harrington) might get a spot on the bench. 3 of those keepers join the list of players who, due to our promotion, are no longer 1st team contenders. Even more so given we might only have a couple of cup games all season. We could have 8 keepers contracted and we'd still need another in, of the right standard for the league we're in.

3 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Not sure it was ever realistically open.

until he signs for another team, it's open.