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As we all know,  we are in desperate need of goalscorers,   who and where do you think we are looking at ?    League 2 ,league 1 ?    A couple that look to fit the bill are Telford at Newport and scully at Lincoln,   (although they are both dwarfs).    

Could look at Stockton at morecambe to play alongside one of said dwarfs.   

Championship striker -    would they come ?   Cant see it. 

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9 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

As we all know,  we are in desperate need of goalscorers,   who and where do you think we are looking at ?    League 2 ,league 1 ?    A couple that look to fit the bill are Telford at Newport and scully at Lincoln,   (although they are both dwarfs).    

Could look at Stockton at morecambe to play alongside one of said dwarfs.   

Championship striker -    would they come ?   Cant see it. 

All premier league clubs will have a Dapo who isn’t going to make it at that level or needs to go out on loan.

I have no idea who they are but if our scouting set up is good, they’ll be aware of who’s available. I reckon this is the route we’ll go down.

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36 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

As we all know,  we are in desperate need of goalscorers,   who and where do you think we are looking at ?    League 2 ,league 1 ?    A couple that look to fit the bill are Telford at Newport and scully at Lincoln,   (although they are both dwarfs).    

Could look at Stockton at morecambe to play alongside one of said dwarfs.   

Championship striker -    would they come ?   Cant see it. 

Armstrong, ex us and Blackburn's a dwarf, but it didn't stop him scoring for fun at Rovers.

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23 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

How far does our scouting network stretch? surely there's some talent to be spotted in North Africa and Scandinavia, and all on peanuts salary wise, there must be a Mahrez or an Eider out there, all about widening the net.

Well, that's one way of going about it I suppose. 

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1 hour ago, DomRepWanderer said:

How far does our scouting network stretch? surely there's some talent to be spotted in North Africa and Scandinavia, and all on peanuts salary wise, there must be a Mahrez or an Eider out there, all about widening the net.

We’ve got a match in 2 weeks time where good contacts can be made if we use our time wisely

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3 hours ago, Biggish Dave said:

Just checked on Sogndal too, their season finishes 27th November so Darcy is only a month away from returning. He’d be a better option than Kachunga 

3rd to 6th place in that league progress into a playoffs that go on for for another month after that, so Darcy may not return until the end of December (if Sogndal make it through all the playoff rounds).

They’re currently 5th, 6 points ahead of the team in 7th with only 4 games to play, so looks likely that they’ll make it to the first round at least.

1 hour ago, DomRepWanderer said:

How far does our scouting network stretch? surely there's some talent to be spotted in North Africa and Scandinavia, and all on peanuts salary wise, there must be a Mahrez or an Eider out there, all about widening the net.

Unfortunately our scouting department doesn’t stretch that far - I’m fairly certain it’s British Isles only.

I understand why fans want us to be scouting far and wide but the added costs far outweigh any marginal benefit you get. Plenty of talent available in the home nations to make a team capable of pushing for promotion in League One.

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3 hours ago, Biggish Dave said:

Just checked on Sogndal too, their season finishes 27th November so Darcy is only a month away from returning. He’d be a better option than Kachunga 

Hasn't got on the pitch in their last 3 games and remember Sogndal are playing in the Norwegian 2nd division.  I like Darcy, but don't think he's going to be the answer to our problems this season.

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If I had to assess our squad strength on who is capable RIGHT NOW to play at Championship level it would be:

Top Level: Dapo, MJ Williams, Kieran Lee, Gethin Jones

Potential but unclear: Dixon, Santos, Johnston, Declan John, Aimson, Sheehan, Bakayoko.

Underperforming or not good enough: Doyle, Delfouneso, Kachunga, Liam Gordon, Brockbank, Thomason

 

So out of those 17:

4 are good enough to play higher level

7 have shown potential or glimpses of quality but have either been inconsistent, injury prone or had too many off days.

6 are not ready to make the step up

 

Not saying the last group are all shite or can't improve but at the moment they're not at the standard we'd need in our starting 11 to push for Automatic promotion in my opinion. I think Doyle works really hard and helps the team in that respect but he's just not scoring right now, can argue whether that's lack of service or whatever, but for me a centre forward can make their own chances and doesn't need it put on a plate. Gordon has filled in well when needed and I like Thomason too.

If we can replace or upgrade on those 6, then the replacements might get the best out of the 7 in the grey area, or will expose if they really aren't up to scratch.

Best case scenario: Politic, Amaechi and Darcy come back firing and that's already some better attacking options.

But in January definitely need a new fullback, some cover for MJ would be useful, a number 10 and a striker also high up the list.

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22 minutes ago, Mantra said:

Been one of our best players this season and look much worse without him. 

He has but there's quite a difference between him being our best right back and being Championship quality.

He might possibly be capable of playing as a full back for a bottom eight Championship club but I wouldn't be certain about it.

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2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He has but there's quite a difference between him being our best right back and being Championship quality.

He might possibly be capable of playing as a full back for a bottom eight Championship club but I wouldn't be certain about it.

I agree there's a big difference but equally I don't think he'd look out of place at that level. As you say, maybe in a bottom half club but "Championship quality" is quite wide-ranging. There's some players in the Championship that could play in the Premier League and some that are awful and should be nowhere near that level, really depends on the state of the club. 

Should probably have phrased it "players that could be in a promotion-winning team from League One."

Maybe he's being made to look better than he is to me because of the lack of depth in his position, but every time I've seen him play this season he's put in a 7/10 performance or more.

I didn't even think he was that good last season but think he's made the step up very comfortably

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13 minutes ago, Mantra said:

I agree there's a big difference but equally I don't think he'd look out of place at that level. As you say, maybe in a bottom half club but "Championship quality" is quite wide-ranging. There's some players in the Championship that could play in the Premier League and some that are awful and should be nowhere near that level, really depends on the state of the club. 

Should probably have phrased it "players that could be in a promotion-winning team from League One."

Maybe he's being made to look better than he is to me because of the lack of depth in his position, but every time I've seen him play this season he's put in a 7/10 performance or more.

I didn't even think he was that good last season but think he's made the step up very comfortably

Aye. But to be Championship quality he neds to drastically improve his delivery into the box.

I also think the ability of the players he'd be up against in the Championship would be much bigger than the ones he's playing against now. The gap between this league and the one above is the biggest in the football pyramid IMO.

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26 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Aye. But to be Championship quality he neds to drastically improve his delivery into the box.

I also think the ability of the players he'd be up against in the Championship would be much bigger than the ones he's playing against now. The gap between this league and the one above is the biggest in the football pyramid IMO.

Yeh clearly has room to improve. Crossing this season has been a huge problem imo.

I think because we have such patient build up, teams get lots of bodies in their box to defend crosses meaning we to have to work very hard to get into a crossing position and when we do get the cross in we rarely find a white shirt because we’re outnumbered in the box. 

And at the other end we seem to be awful at defending crosses.

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3 hours ago, Mantra said:

I agree there's a big difference but equally I don't think he'd look out of place at that level. As you say, maybe in a bottom half club but "Championship quality" is quite wide-ranging. There's some players in the Championship that could play in the Premier League and some that are awful and should be nowhere near that level, really depends on the state of the club. 

Should probably have phrased it "players that could be in a promotion-winning team from League One."

Maybe he's being made to look better than he is to me because of the lack of depth in his position, but every time I've seen him play this season he's put in a 7/10 performance or more.

I didn't even think he was that good last season but think he's made the step up very comfortably

Agree on Jones, he's looked outstanding at times.  Our "valuable" players are Santos and Dapo, but they have games when if a scout from a club thinking of signing them watched the first half, they'd leave at half time.  Not so with Jones, has he had a half a game all season when he's not been 7 out of 10 minimum?

But I agree, he's a top half league one player, but unfortunately not championship standard.  Only Dapo has that potential, I don't even think Santos could make the leap, not nimble and speedy enough for me and it doesn't help that he can't win a header in the opposition box.  He'll do for us in this league though.

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3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Aye. But to be Championship quality he neds to drastically improve his delivery into the box.

I also think the ability of the players he'd be up against in the Championship would be much bigger than the ones he's playing against now. The gap between this league and the one above is the biggest in the football pyramid IMO.

I agree its a huge gap.  But not the same as the gap between the championship and prem.  Norwich, Bournemouth, WBA and Fulham spring to mind.  And I thought Blackpool would struggle with the step up, but they're on a roll.  (What a job Neil Critchley has done, since he failed to get the job here; Feb 2020, Feeney and Delfoneso started for them against us, and Spearing came on, look at them now - but I still don't understand how Keshi Anderson and Madine are starting in a top half championship team).

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9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Agree on Jones, he's looked outstanding at times.  Our "valuable" players are Santos and Dapo, but they have games when if a scout from a club thinking of signing them watched the first half, they'd leave at half time.  Not so with Jones, has he had a half a game all season when he's not been 7 out of 10 minimum?

But I agree, he's a top half league one player, but unfortunately not championship standard.  Only Dapo has that potential, I don't even think Santos could make the leap, not nimble and speedy enough for me and it doesn't help that he can't win a header in the opposition box.  He'll do for us in this league though.

All this putting players into boxes as per their level is utter bollocks imo. When we went up with Sheff Utd how many of their players did you rate as Prem level? Chris Basham maybe (not) ? Craig Cathcart looked bang average in the Championship but has played around 150 games in the top flight & there's plenty of other examples of ordinary looking players coming up from the lower leagues & having a decent sized spell in the top flight. 

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1 hour ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

All this putting players into boxes as per their level is utter bollocks imo. When we went up with Sheff Utd how many of their players did you rate as Prem level? Chris Basham maybe (not) ? Craig Cathcart looked bang average in the Championship but has played around 150 games in the top flight & there's plenty of other examples of ordinary looking players coming up from the lower leagues & having a decent sized spell in the top flight. 

Agree totally. Sometimes better players around can help another rise up.

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Ref Kachunga 

talking to an Huddersfield (ST holder - so passed for and proper test) whilst I’m on a bit so thinly veiled two week holiday in Lanzarote 

he said the season they got promoted from Champ to Prem he was there leading scorer and unplayable 

so he is proven at championship level albeit a few years back. 
 

It may be we aren’t getting the best out of him yet 

 

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3 hours ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

All this putting players into boxes as per their level is utter bollocks imo. When we went up with Sheff Utd how many of their players did you rate as Prem level? Chris Basham maybe (not) ? Craig Cathcart looked bang average in the Championship but has played around 150 games in the top flight & there's plenty of other examples of ordinary looking players coming up from the lower leagues & having a decent sized spell in the top flight. 

Its just opinions, I could be completely wrong, just saying if I was putting a squad together to play in the championship only Dapo would definitely make the cut, although no problem giving a squad place to the likes of Johnstone, Santos, MJ, Lee possibly Baka.  Some players obviously have to play above their natural standard to plug the gaps/make the numbers up, its not black and white.  I didn't think Trotter was championship standard, but he played about 150 games at that level, fair play to him, I just wouldn't personally have picked him.  Not putting them in a box, just what I'd do in an ideal world, which is unrealistic of course.  

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