Terror Attacks

[Guest]

That works both ways.  

 

Anyways, I agree with your point re. the real instigators but they need to be dealt with differently.  I'm talking about working with and encouraging Muslim communities to do more to reach out to these types; and ensuring that British people distinguish clearly between monsters and Muslims.

 

Stop there supply line as it were.  

 

The link above from that Muslim fella on Twitter is the kind of message that Muslims need to be circulating within their communities.

 

But the idea that it should just be Muslim's dealing with it is the issue. We should be dealing with it too. Alongside them. It is up to us, break the barriers down. 

[worthy10]

Most of them are British. So where would you deport them to? Also the list won't just be Muslims either. So are you deporting everyone who has been identified as looking at extremist materials etc...because some of those people will be entirely innocent.

[Zico]

Morrissey is agreeing with a fair few of you on here it seems.

 

Strong stuff.

 

https://www.facebook.com/Morrissey/posts/1349891061714098

 

the issue I have with that is he says a lot without saying anything himself

 

why doesn't he just come out and say what he wants to say, without being critical of those seemingly hiding behind their words

[worthy10]

OK fair point. Deport the ones on the list that aren't british. Surely that's a start?

[Mounts Kipper]

Is this it mate ?

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/867139649185218562/photo/1

 

If so, I actually know Abdul. He owns a solicitors up Haslingden, A.S.K I think they're called.

 

He's a sound lad.

 

 

Superb tweet I applaud him and welcome his courage speaking out. Top man, this highlights the fact that there are good Muslims out there, lets not forget that.

Edited May 24, 2017 by Mounts Kipper

[L/H White]

 

We’re hearing reports BBC 5 Live has been taken off air following reports of an evacuation of the studio at Media City

 

 

ffs

[madthatter]

But the idea that it should just be Muslim's dealing with it is the issue. We should be dealing with it too. Alongside them. It is up to us, break the barriers down. 

 

Well I pointed out changing or affecting 'British' attitudes too.  Fact is though that Muslim communities are generally quite insular - the Muslim mon quoted above states as much, and he clearly knows better than you or I.

 

Given that state of affairs, that's where it would need to start, imo.  

 

But yes, higher profile members of Mosques and communities need to be seen to be promoting and living in more 'inclusive' ways - i.e. with the non-Muslim communities.  Again, that has to work both ways - I don't see a problem with 'my' culture though, in this matter.  Hence the number of Mosques in my home town . . .

Edited May 24, 2017 by madthatter

[miamiwhite]

Superb tweet I applaud him and welcome his courage speaking out. Top man, this highlights the fact that there are good Muslims out there, lets not forget that.

Definitely good Muslims out there.

 

Abdul is a sound lad and very good solicitor. Know him very well indeed and he says it as it is.

[miamiwhite]

That's the one.

 

Its what Amans have been saying and trying for years, to get people integrating, 

 

I take it that means someone on my facebooks reported it ?

If you look on the guardian or times website, there's a report saying Salman Abedi fell out with the Iman at his local Manchester mosque due to the Iman being very critical of IS.

Abedi organised a petition against the Iman, bloody ridiculous isn't it ?

 

If this was reported to relevant security forces at the time, surely Abedi would have moved up the list as a "person of interest"

 

Still can't get my napper around such a baby faced kid like him turning radical. Prior to that, he was a dirty Red fan and smoked weed, then bang....he turns.

Frightening what goes through their mind isn't it ?

[madthatter]

When doing my teacher training we were shown a video that had folk from Bradford, white and Muslim, openly expressing their stereotypes, views and beliefs about the others culture.

 

Whilst I had to stifle a laugh or two at times it was eye opening to hear some of the entrenched and, frankly, crazy views held by many Muslims about our way of life.  Granted, some of the white trash beliefs were quite ridiculous too!

 

I bring this up as I would wager these views are still prevalent, and any time Muslims are persecuted as a whole these views are further reinforced.

 

There's not much point in 'Mr White' attempting to reach out in the first instance.  Those with such mind-sets need to hear it 'from their own kind'.

 

Couple of months back I was racially abused working in a school.   Predominantly Somali students.  In brief, It was made clear that due to being white I couldn't be trusted.

 

Water of a duck's back for me, but how the school responded (did fook all, really) and that children of refugees in this country are allowed to even hear such views, let alone allow them to be fostered, was deeply saddening to me.  The kids get that from somewhere . . . We're clearly failing and need new strategies.

[DazBob]

there are good Muslims out there, lets not forget that.

Most sensible folk never did pal.

[miamiwhite]

Interesting stuff from another good Muslim.

 

Further down his feed, good read on the groomers he helped prosecute

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/nazirafzal

[miamiwhite]

Interesting stuff from another good Muslim.

Further down his feed, good read on the groomers he helped prosecute

https://mobile.twitter.com/nazirafzal

He reminds me of Herman Munster

[madthatter]

Interesting stuff from another good Muslim.

 

Further down his feed, good read on the groomers he helped prosecute

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/nazirafzal

 

I like this (on terrorists):

 

They're sad narcissists- thinking the world owes them

[miamiwhite]

Sky reporting now that the father of the suicide bomber from Monday is claiming his son is innocent.

[L/H White]

MEN confirmed one of the victims was a police officer off duty

[miamiwhite]

Just read that the mother of the 8 year old girl who died, is still in a coma.

 

Imagine having to tell the mother the tragic news when she comes out of the coma ?

 

Proper dusty eyes today.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Sky reporting now that the father of the suicide bomber from Monday is claiming his son is innocent.

BBC just said they believe he is on his way to Libya. Just don't come back.

[miamiwhite]

BBC just said they believe he is on his way to Libya. Just don't come back.

I thought he was already there mate and was en route to Saudi ?

 

Either way, please do not come back.

 

Frightening to think that his dad was given a job in airport security at Manchester !!!!

Fuck me with a shitty stick, he had been expelled by Gaddafi for being a member of LIFG (Al Qaeda)...we take him and his family in.

 

We give them a housing association house, benefits, free speech and a fucking job at the airport !!!

 

It proves history is repeating itself in this government's cock ups and liberal left wing "hello sailor" attitude to immigrants who they haven't properly researched or screened.

 

And what thanks do we get ?

 

His cunty son blows up our innocent children.

Folk wonder why there is so bloody anger now. The tide has turned !!!!

 

 

Here's a clip from the archives...Dispatches,2011....Lessons in Hate and Violence.......we need to shut down places like this,now, this very minute, no messing about.

 

The clip will explain even to bwfcdan that conversing to certain folk is impossible due to their mindset....

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4s0708

[miamiwhite]

Japan have the right idea........do they get accused of racism etc by soppy wet fart liberals ?

 

No....they just don't budge a single inch, which explains their relative peace compared to ours and Europe, fair play to them.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/truthBtold4000/status/867011463046737920/photo/1

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Quite interesting comment at the beginning there mate. About reaping the whirlwind.

 

I know Manchester is a music haven and quite an inclusive place in some respects but in all reality in large towns and cities throughout there is arguably less integration and a greater degree of social separation than ever.

 

Even something as fundamental as the language that is spoken.

[L/H White]

another false alarm at the aiport, departure lounge was evacuated

[miamiwhite]

Quite interesting comment at the beginning there mate. About reaping the whirlwind.

I know Manchester is a music haven and quite an inclusive place in some respects but in all reality in large towns and cities throughout there is arguably less integration and a greater degree of social separation than ever.

Even something as fundamental as the language that is spoken.

Just seeing on Sky that his dad is actually the head of admin for the Libyan Central Security Services.

 

I can imagine the chat "here you are son, come here, go to Syria, get some training at a camp, then go back and blitz the infidels."

 

Cunt of a son.." are you sure dad, they may stop me at the airport"

 

Dickhead dad..."it be fine son, those liberal honky boys at airport will let you stroll through,like they did with me many Ramadans ago..years down the line when dust is settled, we'll sue the British Governement for damages etc, they're suckers and gladly pay up"

 

Said as parody,......but very close to the truth.

[Zico]

Japan have the right idea........do they get accused of racism etc by soppy wet fart liberals ?

 

No....they just don't budge a single inch, which explains their relative peace compared to ours and Europe, fair play to them.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/truthBtold4000/status/867011463046737920/photo/1

 

fake news

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/17/viral-image/viral-graphic-says-japan-keeps-out-radical-islam-t/

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just watching a statement from Manchester Islamic centre fella. Each to their own but seemed more interested in covering their own arses.