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I'd imagine the element of doubt on the minds of a terrorist about whether or not they're being tracked is one of the few things which tilt the odds in the favour of the security services. Once you're tagged - you know they're onto you and are less likely to lead intelligence to other members of the cell.

 

That would be my guess anyway.

Can't see how it would help that much

 

A tag doesn't stop you making a bomb at home if someone else buys you the bits

 

You'd probably have to stop them going to the mosque as well

 

Given these folk are willing to die for the cause at any time a tag isn't going to stop them heading to a crowded area and blowing themselves up at the drop of a hat

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I'd imagine the element of doubt on the minds of a terrorist about whether or not they're being tracked is one of the few things which tilt the odds in the favour of the security services. Once you're tagged - you know they're onto you and are less likely to lead intelligence to other members of the cell.

 

That would be my guess anyway.

If you and I agree, I know that we are there of thereabouts

 

It's just the obvious solution

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So, there's 3,000 of them in the uk

 

I guess we know who most of them are, but don't have the manpower to track them 24/7.

 

What's wrong with putting a tag on each of them?

freezing their passports so they can't travel to and from these places.
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if they have intel that they are in a cell, they all need to be locked up.

 

Simple as that.

 

It doesnt matter how many, lock them up, as we know what their intent is.

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So, all's that missing is the political will

 

The will to save our kids

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So, all's that missing is the political will

The will to save our kids

We need to take the politics out of it, get all the major parties sharing a platform of right against wrong.

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We need to take the politics out of it, get all the major parties sharing a platform of right against wrong.

Sure

 

Not about politics, but those running the country to say "this is wrong and this is what we will do"

 

There are too many barriers to taking such actions (personal freedom) but there comes a time when we say that's enough.

 

No innocent person would object to having a tag

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We need to take the politics out of it, get all the major parties sharing a platform of right against wrong.

 

I read this nonsense theory that the Tories orchestrated the whole thing, because their popularity in the election was waning.

 

Conspiracy theorists do my nut in. I don't think anyone in this world would put their career over the lives of kids.

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I read this nonsense theory that the Tories orchestrated the whole thing, because their popularity in the election was waning.

 

Conspiracy theorists do my nut in. I don't think anyone in this world would put their career over the lives of kids.

Bloke at work mentioned this conspiracy theory but not the tories "murdoch, he had too much to lose with Corbyn on the up".

 

His evidence Corbyn was on the up was ladbrokes odds going from 18/1 to 6/1 for next PM

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If you and I agree, I know that we are there of thereabouts

 

It's just the obvious solution

We don't agree. I was saying it was a bad idea because it might stop the people you are trying to the surveil from interacting with other members of the cell :-)

 

We'll find summat one day though! :-)

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Bloke at work mentioned this conspiracy theory but not the tories "murdoch, he had too much to lose with Corbyn on the up".

 

His evidence Corbyn was on the up was ladbrokes odds going from 18/1 to 6/1 for next PM

You should have stabbed him with a biro for being such a fucking dick.

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We don't agree. I was saying it was a bad idea because it might stop the people you are trying to the surveil from interacting with other members of the cell :-)

 

We'll find summat one day though! :-)

If there are around 3,000 and we tag them all, it's either game over or we can more easily track any external influences/ communications

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The bloke being interviewed from the scum fuckers family mosque said his dad was one of the most well known person in the area and that mosque.

 

Telling me nobody knew of their links? Nobody In that mosque knew of their movements?

 

Did nobody think to flag something up when the lad bailed to Syria? And then Libya and back? Or when his brother went to Syria? Or when his dad legged it too?

 

It fucking stinks. The more you read the more you realise how avoidable all this could be.

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We could start by not paying benefits to this scum.Time and again when these shite come to our attention their families are on the

UK gold plated 5 star benefit and housing package.What society in history has ever paid the very people that want to destroy their

way of life to live amonst them while they do it.

On top of that ,if at any time the police get involved in trying to protect the uk society a whole army of legal aid lawyers

are waiting like vultures waiting to spend our hard earned tax money so the bastards can have repeated goes at the hand that

feeds them.

There isnt a politician out there with the balls to stand up for the people of these islands and try to protect our children.

We are left as a flock of sheep paying for a band of rabid wolves to live among us.

And make no mistake these muzi bastards really really really hate us and this country

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We could start by not paying benefits to this scum.Time and again when these shite come to our attention their families are on the

UK gold plated 5 star benefit and housing package.What society in history has ever paid the very people that want to destroy their

way of life to live amonst them while they do it.

On top of that ,if at any time the police get involved in trying to protect the uk society a whole army of legal aid lawyers

are waiting like vultures waiting to spend our hard earned tax money so the bastards can have repeated goes at the hand that

feeds them.

There isnt a politician out there with the balls to stand up for the people of these islands and try to protect our children.

We are left as a flock of sheep paying for a band of rabid wolves to live among us.

And make no mistake these muzi bastards really really really hate us and this country

You really fucked it up with that last sentence.

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We could start by not paying benefits to this scum.Time and again when these shite come to our attention their families are on theUK gold plated 5 star benefit and housing package.What society in history has ever paid the very people that want to destroy theirway of life to live amonst them while they do it.On top of that ,if at any time the police get involved in trying to protect the uk society a whole army of legal aid lawyersare waiting like vultures waiting to spend our hard earned tax money so the bastards can have repeated goes at the hand thatfeeds them.There isnt a politician out there with the balls to stand up for the people of these islands and try to protect our children.We are left as a flock of sheep paying for a band of rabid wolves to live among us.And make no mistake these muzi bastards really really really hate us and this country

Totally agree pal.

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Sure

 

Not about politics, but those running the country to say "this is wrong and this is what we will do"

 

There are too many barriers to taking such actions (personal freedom) but there comes a time when we say that's enough.

 

No innocent person would object to having a tag

 

:good:  :good: 

 

and would THEY object too I'm sorry but

 

but its Football/Concert/other  packed Venue

 

what you doing with a big coat on back pack on ....can you stand back over there to get it Chequed

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The bloke being interviewed from the scum fuckers family mosque said his dad was one of the most well known person in the area and that mosque.

 

Telling me nobody knew of their links? Nobody In that mosque knew of their movements?

 

Did nobody think to flag something up when the lad bailed to Syria? And then Libya and back? Or when his brother went to Syria? Or when his dad legged it too?

 

It fucking stinks. The more you read the more you realise how avoidable all this could be.

and people called Trump for banning people froe comeing to the US from some Countrys

 

if you leave the UK with a british passport to certern Countrys it should be taken off you when you board the plane

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Piece on the news just now about something called "prevent", which allows muslims to report anyone showing signs of extremism

 

On the one hand it was being done wrong and one bloke got targeted for praying 5 times a day, because apparently that's a sign whereas it turns out he just likes praying

 

On the other hand folk actually reported the manchester bomber but nothing came of it and they were basically ignored

 

So it's a start but it clearly needs work, as it's not working

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/03/prevent-strategy-sowing-mistrust-fear-muslim-communities

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