Zico Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 I'd imagine the element of doubt on the minds of a terrorist about whether or not they're being tracked is one of the few things which tilt the odds in the favour of the security services. Once you're tagged - you know they're onto you and are less likely to lead intelligence to other members of the cell. That would be my guess anyway. Can't see how it would help that much A tag doesn't stop you making a bomb at home if someone else buys you the bits You'd probably have to stop them going to the mosque as well Given these folk are willing to die for the cause at any time a tag isn't going to stop them heading to a crowded area and blowing themselves up at the drop of a hat Quote
Guest Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 I'd imagine the element of doubt on the minds of a terrorist about whether or not they're being tracked is one of the few things which tilt the odds in the favour of the security services. Once you're tagged - you know they're onto you and are less likely to lead intelligence to other members of the cell. That would be my guess anyway. If you and I agree, I know that we are there of thereabouts It's just the obvious solution Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 If you could tag them all though, then they'd stop meeting at all so plans would be stopped. Not possible obviously, so leave the security dudes to work out best methods. Quote
radcliffe white Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 So, there's 3,000 of them in the uk I guess we know who most of them are, but don't have the manpower to track them 24/7. What's wrong with putting a tag on each of them? freezing their passports so they can't travel to and from these places. Quote
L/H White Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 if they have intel that they are in a cell, they all need to be locked up. Simple as that. It doesnt matter how many, lock them up, as we know what their intent is. Quote
Guest Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 So, all's that missing is the political will The will to save our kids Quote
Whites man Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 So, all's that missing is the political will The will to save our kids We need to take the politics out of it, get all the major parties sharing a platform of right against wrong. Quote
miamiwhite Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Sky News Special on now, pretty good viewing so far re all the links. Quote
Guest Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 We need to take the politics out of it, get all the major parties sharing a platform of right against wrong. Sure Not about politics, but those running the country to say "this is wrong and this is what we will do" There are too many barriers to taking such actions (personal freedom) but there comes a time when we say that's enough. No innocent person would object to having a tag Quote
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 We need to take the politics out of it, get all the major parties sharing a platform of right against wrong. I read this nonsense theory that the Tories orchestrated the whole thing, because their popularity in the election was waning. Conspiracy theorists do my nut in. I don't think anyone in this world would put their career over the lives of kids. Quote
stevieb Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 I read this nonsense theory that the Tories orchestrated the whole thing, because their popularity in the election was waning. Conspiracy theorists do my nut in. I don't think anyone in this world would put their career over the lives of kids. Bloke at work mentioned this conspiracy theory but not the tories "murdoch, he had too much to lose with Corbyn on the up". His evidence Corbyn was on the up was ladbrokes odds going from 18/1 to 6/1 for next PM Quote
kent_white Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 If you and I agree, I know that we are there of thereabouts It's just the obvious solution We don't agree. I was saying it was a bad idea because it might stop the people you are trying to the surveil from interacting with other members of the cell :-) We'll find summat one day though! :-) Quote
Winchester White Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Bloke at work mentioned this conspiracy theory but not the tories "murdoch, he had too much to lose with Corbyn on the up". His evidence Corbyn was on the up was ladbrokes odds going from 18/1 to 6/1 for next PM You should have stabbed him with a biro for being such a fucking dick. Quote
Guest Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 We don't agree. I was saying it was a bad idea because it might stop the people you are trying to the surveil from interacting with other members of the cell :-) We'll find summat one day though! :-) If there are around 3,000 and we tag them all, it's either game over or we can more easily track any external influences/ communications Quote
miamiwhite Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Let's just get these liberal clowns from yesterday sort it out. Total fuckwits https://mobile.twitter.com/Shy_Society/status/867087418578661378 Quote
gonzo Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 The bloke being interviewed from the scum fuckers family mosque said his dad was one of the most well known person in the area and that mosque. Telling me nobody knew of their links? Nobody In that mosque knew of their movements? Did nobody think to flag something up when the lad bailed to Syria? And then Libya and back? Or when his brother went to Syria? Or when his dad legged it too? It fucking stinks. The more you read the more you realise how avoidable all this could be. Quote
crawshawbooth Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 We could start by not paying benefits to this scum.Time and again when these shite come to our attention their families are on the UK gold plated 5 star benefit and housing package.What society in history has ever paid the very people that want to destroy their way of life to live amonst them while they do it. On top of that ,if at any time the police get involved in trying to protect the uk society a whole army of legal aid lawyers are waiting like vultures waiting to spend our hard earned tax money so the bastards can have repeated goes at the hand that feeds them. There isnt a politician out there with the balls to stand up for the people of these islands and try to protect our children. We are left as a flock of sheep paying for a band of rabid wolves to live among us. And make no mistake these muzi bastards really really really hate us and this country Quote
Winchester White Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 We could start by not paying benefits to this scum.Time and again when these shite come to our attention their families are on the UK gold plated 5 star benefit and housing package.What society in history has ever paid the very people that want to destroy their way of life to live amonst them while they do it. On top of that ,if at any time the police get involved in trying to protect the uk society a whole army of legal aid lawyers are waiting like vultures waiting to spend our hard earned tax money so the bastards can have repeated goes at the hand that feeds them. There isnt a politician out there with the balls to stand up for the people of these islands and try to protect our children. We are left as a flock of sheep paying for a band of rabid wolves to live among us. And make no mistake these muzi bastards really really really hate us and this country You really fucked it up with that last sentence. Quote
miamiwhite Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 We could start by not paying benefits to this scum.Time and again when these shite come to our attention their families are on theUK gold plated 5 star benefit and housing package.What society in history has ever paid the very people that want to destroy theirway of life to live amonst them while they do it.On top of that ,if at any time the police get involved in trying to protect the uk society a whole army of legal aid lawyersare waiting like vultures waiting to spend our hard earned tax money so the bastards can have repeated goes at the hand thatfeeds them.There isnt a politician out there with the balls to stand up for the people of these islands and try to protect our children.We are left as a flock of sheep paying for a band of rabid wolves to live among us.And make no mistake these muzi bastards really really really hate us and this country Totally agree pal. Quote
miamiwhite Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Has this really just been on the Channel 4 news ? The cunt in the love top ? The O is a pic of a grenade..FFS.... https://mobile.twitter.com/phishyphather/status/867451219618521089/photo/1 Edited May 24, 2017 by miamiwhite Quote
little whitt Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 How about we allow jihadi Rovers in the football league and make them play Millwall away every week? Quote
Sluffy Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Has this really just been on the Channel 4 news ? The cunt in the love top ? The O is a pic of a grenade..FFS.... https://mobile.twitter.com/phishyphather/status/867451219618521089/photo/1 I think it is a (homemade?) version of this - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAnOOo0XcAAGgU8?format=jpg Quote
little whitt Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Sure Not about politics, but those running the country to say "this is wrong and this is what we will do" There are too many barriers to taking such actions (personal freedom) but there comes a time when we say that's enough. No innocent person would object to having a tag and would THEY object too I'm sorry but but its Football/Concert/other packed Venue what you doing with a big coat on back pack on ....can you stand back over there to get it Chequed Quote
little whitt Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 The bloke being interviewed from the scum fuckers family mosque said his dad was one of the most well known person in the area and that mosque. Telling me nobody knew of their links? Nobody In that mosque knew of their movements? Did nobody think to flag something up when the lad bailed to Syria? And then Libya and back? Or when his brother went to Syria? Or when his dad legged it too? It fucking stinks. The more you read the more you realise how avoidable all this could be. and people called Trump for banning people froe comeing to the US from some Countrys if you leave the UK with a british passport to certern Countrys it should be taken off you when you board the plane Quote
Zico Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Piece on the news just now about something called "prevent", which allows muslims to report anyone showing signs of extremism On the one hand it was being done wrong and one bloke got targeted for praying 5 times a day, because apparently that's a sign whereas it turns out he just likes praying On the other hand folk actually reported the manchester bomber but nothing came of it and they were basically ignored So it's a start but it clearly needs work, as it's not working https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/03/prevent-strategy-sowing-mistrust-fear-muslim-communities Quote
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