Terror Attacks

[Mounts Kipper]

you'll need to tell them that as some of em haven't read the script

You seem to hate Jews but love Muslims. Same as the anti facist mob. Head wobble.

Edited June 13, 2017 by Mounts Kipper

[Tonge moor green jacket]

St Annes today, they've fenced off all the statues etc. They cleared the whole square over the weekend but people had put fresh flowers down yesterday, all these removed. A bit insensitive really. People milling around there with no idea what to do, where to go.

Its not easy deciding when to take them away-was once sent to remove flowers from the scene of a murder. Had to do it early before too many folk would notice and kick off.

In fairness as they begin to rot, they begin to smell. They did say any in good condition would be sent to good causes, or words to that effect.

[Carlos]

They took the flowers that were put down yesterday. And fenced off the area so that people can't put more down. Fucking awful.

[Casino]

You seem to hate Jews but love Muslims. Same as the anti facist mob. Head wobble.

 

i dont hate either religion

 

 

im still bitter that the jewish lads i went to school with missed chemistry on a friday afternoon, though

 

 

as for the bigger picture, successive israeli governments have been a set of cnuts as have the arab terrorists

 

oddly, i expect better from national governments, which is why i wouldnt approve of us bumping folk off

Edited June 13, 2017 by Casino

[miamiwhite]

Corbyn the Cunt Part MMCX

 

http://www.israellycool.com/2015/09/18/sprung-corbyn-not-just-innocent-bystander-at-terror-rally/

[miamiwhite]

And what I mentioned last week which links in to the Corbyn Cunt post just now

 

http://www.israellycool.com/2017/06/13/an-open-letter-to-the-mayor-of-london-sadiq-khan-about-al-quds-hate-day/

[Tonge moor green jacket]

They took the flowers that were put down yesterday. And fenced off the area so that people can't put more down. Fucking awful.

Yeah, said on the news this morning decent ones would be moved- presumably that meant new ones in the main.

Stockport are moving there's but are going to put a permanent memorial up somewhere. Perhaps Manchester will do the same.

Not sure if 'ours' are still there- they were last Thursday; would imagine once one does it they will all start to.

Really is a difficult situation, and not pleasant.

[Casino]

And what I mentioned last week which links in to the Corbyn Cunt post just now

 

http://www.israellycool.com/2017/06/13/an-open-letter-to-the-mayor-of-london-sadiq-khan-about-al-quds-hate-day/

 

 

why does the jewish press describe it as anti israel day

 

it is a protest against the oppression of muslims around the world, not just those being shot and bombed by israel

 

intersting that of the six speakers listed at the event, at least 3 are jews

 

 

 

 

fwiw

 

the police currently have their hands full and id have no problem with it being postponed

[Mounts Kipper]

why does the jewish press describe it as anti israel day

 

it is a protest against the oppression of muslims around the world, not just those being shot and bombed by israel

 

intersting that of the six speakers listed at the event, at least 3 are jews

 

 

 

 

fwiw

 

the police currently have their hands full and id have no problem with it being postponed

I'd think there will be burning of the Israel flag, wouldn't suprise me if the Isis flag was displayed plus anti US and UK literature. Personally speaking I'd have the army there to aid the police and arrest anyone who chooses to display terrorist or hate literature or sentiment. Edited June 14, 2017 by Mounts Kipper

[madthatter]

I'd think there will be burning of the Israel flag, wouldn't suprise me if the Isis flag was displayed plus anti US and UK literature. Personally speaking I'd have the army there to aid the police and arrest anyone who chooses to display terrorist or hate literature or sentiment.

 

As I understand the law on these matters they should be arrested for such things.

 

Hopefully we'll see more positive action from the law on this after recent events

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Hopefully.

 

As for the Israel debate; they've a lot to answer for with their behaviour towards their neighbours. As do their neighbours in return.

 

What isn't happening in large scale terrorism from Jewish, Hindu, etc extremists.

 

That's what needs cracking.

[Casino]

how many palestinians have been killed in the last 50 years

 

isnt it in the tens of thousands?

[Whites man]

how many palestinians have been killed in the last 50 years

 

isnt it in the tens of thousands?

Compared to the number of Jewish victims of the Holocaust it will be a tiny number. The World owes the Jews a homeland for that.

[madthatter]

Compared to the number of Jewish victims of the Holocaust it will be a tiny number. The World owes the Jews a homeland for that.

 

 . . . wonders if serious or not?!

 

My 2 cents:  Israel - the nation - has been a bit of a cnut.  Undeniable, really.

 

I can't find the link but not long ago saw an Israeli Jewish fella stand before a baying US university auditorium, admit his family were persecuted during the holocaust, and still condemn Israel's 'foreign policies'.  Basically said they were no better than Hitler and his ancestors would turn in their graves if they could see what it had become . . .

 

He was shouted down so many times and had to become quite stern and emotive to get his point across.  Was even accused of being anti-Semitic ffs!

 

That's one view, granted, and you cannot condone Palestinian retaliations although I'm more sympathetic to their cause, I suppose.  

 

Israel is surrounded by enemies, essentially, so is understandably 'defensive' - but, there's means and ways . . .

 

Why is it in this day and age that the instant someone makes a genuine critique of a people, race, nation, policy etc it is instantly seen as prejudiced, racist, Naziesque etc?  Bit shit really.

[madthatter]

I'll ask a question.

 

The Jews, as a people, have been persecuted throughout history.

 

Why is that?

 

I read a lot of history and could suggest various reasons over the ages.  Not a road I particularly want to go down on here though

 

It's a valid question though, I feel.

[gonzo]

Because they wear silly hats and killed baby Jesus innit.

 

Big nosed bastards.

[Casino]

I'll ask a question.

 

The Jews, as a people, have been persecuted throughout history.

 

Why is that?

 

I read a lot of history and could suggest various reasons over the ages.  Not a road I particularly want to go down on here though

 

It's a valid question though, I feel.

 

 

cos they are usually a minority, id guess

[Whites man]

There is an implication of blame in the question.

[madthatter]

There is an implication of blame in the question.

 

Give over.

 

Being a minority is relevant but doesn't explain centuries of persecution.

 

A common theme (one that happened here in the UK and across Europe) is that they were excellent at making Kings and kingdoms richer.

 

Sometimes, said Kings would become envious of their wealth and look to persecute so as to claim that wealth as theirs and to reduce their power.

 

Where's the implied blame there?

 

You're kind of backing up my point above with that sort of silly response.

 

If there was an unspoken point it was that if I were of a persecuted people I would probably want to see any patterns so I could possibly prevent this in future.  I suspect (but could well be wrong) that modern Israel's foreign policies may be born out of this kind of thinking - hence the aggression.

Edited June 14, 2017 by madthatter

[Tonge moor green jacket]

how many palestinians have been killed in the last 50 years

 

isnt it in the tens of thousands?

Maybe, dunno.

Not sure what you're saying there though. I'm no fan of the Israel's approach at times, but I don't see what relevance that has to extreme Muslims committing acts of terror the world over.

[Guest]

I'll ask a question.

 

The Jews, as a people, have been persecuted throughout history.

 

Why is that?

 

I read a lot of history and could suggest various reasons over the ages. Not a road I particularly want to go down on here though

 

It's a valid question though, I feel.

My guess is because they have been incredibly successful.

 

They are very strong families and stick together, looking to hand down through the generations

[madthatter]

My guess is because they have been incredibly successful.

 

They are very strong families and stick together, looking to hand down through the generations

 

I'd agree (see above).

 

The sticking together bit though is sometimes part of the problem.  Not their fault, necessarily, but seems to have rubbed folk up the wrong way for a long, long time.

 

It's that powerful human emotion, jealousy.

[Casino]

Maybe, dunno.

Not sure what you're saying there though. I'm no fan of the Israel's approach at times, but I don't see what relevance that has to extreme Muslims committing acts of terror the world over.

 

 

you asked about large scale atrocities

 

you didnt mention around the world

 

and, seeing as the discussion was around a demo protesting abuse of muslims, it seems relevant

[Mixu]

how many palestinians have been killed in the last 50 years

 

isnt it in the tens of thousands?

 

How many have been saved by Israel's world class medical system?

 

I'll ask a question.

 

The Jews, as a people, have been persecuted throughout history.

 

Why is that?

 

 

 

Money.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

you asked about large scale atrocities

 

you didnt mention around the world

 

and, seeing as the discussion was around a demo protesting abuse of muslims, it seems relevant

I didn't ask about anything I stated that no other group carries out attacks of this nature. The thread title is terror attacks; referring to what has gone on here.

The statement I made is true. Only Muslim extremists carry out this stuff. What's going on over there is terrible but it is a struggle over there. Western involvement over the years may not have helped and perhaps we'd all be better off out of it.

Over here, everyone has the right of protest, and so long as its peaceful and not inciteful or illegal then fine. But as has already been pointed out there will undoubtedly be hateful messages.

Moreover there will be little sympathy if extremists continue to carry out attrocities in places that have no involvement in suppressing palestinians.