Casino Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Sweep said: I'm the same to be honest, I'd be quite happy if we just sold all the fishing grounds off and forgot about it as an industry, it's always brought up though I think we already have sold most of the grounds to international corporations Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Casino said: I think we already have sold most of the grounds to international corporations Really? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said: The transition period closes on 31st December 2020 so if the WA passes through parliament tomorrow we have 14 months to negotiate the toughest part of the process. Unless of course we keep delaying that date if we still have a hung parliament post the next election. And? The WA is still intact. The implementation period can also be extended quite significantly if needs be, so at worst, ago would be a few years off. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Really? Fishing rights are owned by folk from many different countries. They have to pay for a fishing license, in accordance with quotas etc. Suppose it stops all and sundry from overfishing etc. They are still our rights to sell however, so they've not been sold off as such. Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Fishing rights are owned by folk from many different countries. They have to pay for a fishing license, in accordance with quotas etc. Suppose it stops all and sundry from overfishing etc. They are still our rights to sell however, so they've not been sold off as such. I did wonder Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 18, 2019 Author Posted October 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: How often do you go down to the fish market? Talking of fish.........and they call leave voters thick Enjoy your chippy tea folks... Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Her again? FFS. Our peg and lad have just been down to the fish market- bloody thing was largely packed up. He's bought something called a boi! I asked them if they knew if it was caught here or imported. Blank expression, so I told them only to buy stuff they knew was caught here. Buy British🇬🇧 Quote
Salford Trotter Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: And? The WA is still intact. The implementation period can also be extended quite significantly if needs be, so at worst, ago would be a few years off. But that was my point, the MP was pointing out that he and other members of the ERG were given assurances that if we hadn't got a FTA by December 2020 then the UK would leave without a deal then. This skullduggery is what is causing unrest with those MPs who might otherwise be supporting the Gvt tomorrow. Edited October 18, 2019 by Salford Trotter Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: But that was my point, the MP was pointing out that he and other members of the ERG were given assurances that if we hadn't got a FTA by December 2020 then the UK would leave without a deal then. This skullduggery is what is causing unrest with those MPs who might otherwise be supporting the Gvt tomorrow. That's not as I see it. If the WA is voted in, it's law and can't just be ignored as if it never happened. Would need a renegotiation or (Vienna) act. That was discussed during previous deliberations over the backstop and described as a no-no. If that's what he's actually suggesting, then I'd suggest he's got his knickers in a twist somehow because it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Quote
Casino Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Escobarp said: Possibly who knows i for one wouldn’t be voting in it or ever again to be honest and don’t think I will be alone. That's be your loss Quote
Casino Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I did wonder Wonder all you like I'd expect tm knows more on this than me, but i think we sell the power to decide who fishes our watersto foreign companies, something like that, that's hardly the fault of the eu Quote
Spider Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 What time's the vote tomorrow? Be fckin ace if they could put it on Soccer Saturday and have Jeff Stelling do a running commentary Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, Casino said: Wonder all you like I'd expect tm knows more on this than me, but i think we sell the power to decide who fishes our watersto foreign companies, something like that, that's hardly the fault of the eu He does and has already outlined I didn't mention the EU Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, Spider said: What time's the vote tomorrow? Be fckin ace if they could put it on Soccer Saturday and have Jeff Stelling do a running commentary After 2.30pm Well be trying to get online at the Bok Quote
Casino Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: He does and has already outlined I didn't mention the EU Yes, but if I'm right, it's not clear in his explanation As I understand it, the UK sells the right to decide who fishes our waters to foreign companies Leaving British fishermen out of work Probably Labour's fault, too Fwiw, the UK fishing industry has been in decline forever Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, Casino said: Yes, but if I'm right, it's not clear in his explanation As I understand it, the UK sells the right to decide who fishes our waters to foreign companies Leaving British fishermen out of work Probably Labour's fault, too Fwiw, the UK fishing industry has been in decline forever You're floundering now Quote
Salford Trotter Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That's not as I see it. If the WA is voted in, it's law and can't just be ignored as if it never happened. Would need a renegotiation or (Vienna) act. That was discussed during previous deliberations over the backstop and described as a no-no. If that's what he's actually suggesting, then I'd suggest he's got his knickers in a twist somehow because it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. So we get to the end of the transition period and say the Conservatives are the Gvt (with a majority) cannot they just leave without a deal? Quote
Escobarp Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: So we get to the end of the transition period and say the Conservatives are the Gvt (with a majority) cannot they just leave without a deal? Would they not need to take it back to the HoC and pass new legislation to do that? Agree it’s possible but cannot see enough tories voting for it even with a majority potentially. If however this tomorrow gets blocked I fear that people will be so pissed off that anything could happen Quote
Winchester White Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Talking of fish.........and they call leave voters thick Enjoy your chippy tea folks... What the fuck is that all about? I bet that massive hairy clopper is full of thrush. Quote
birch-chorley Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Less talk about Fish, let’s cut the wheat from the chaff, what does the deal mean for B&M Bargains Quote
Casino Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 So long as they can get stock in, it'll be great We will all be in their fcuking whoopsie aisle Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: So we get to the end of the transition period and say the Conservatives are the Gvt (with a majority) cannot they just leave without a deal? No don't think so. You're well versed in telling mounts about the difference between a WA and a trade agreement, and you're right- they're different. Once the first is in place that's that- I'm pretty sure there's no get out clause in the event of no trade agreement being in place. Sorting the trade agreement will be like agreeing one with any other nation, long and protracted perhaps, but if you fail to agree it then just stick on wto. Going back to the vid; I really got the impression he and the interviewer were slightly at crossed purposes. If not, and the government do somehow feel they could go no deal after a deal then they can get to fuck. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Less talk about Fish, let’s cut the wheat from the chaff, what does the deal mean for B&M Bargains B and M are merchants. Fish industry are producers. Without the latter the former don't exist. Quote
Casino Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: No don't think so. You're well versed in telling mounts about the difference between a WA and a trade agreement, and you're right- they're different. Once the first is in place that's that- I'm pretty sure there's no get out clause in the event of no trade agreement being in place. Sorting the trade agreement will be like agreeing one with any other nation, long and protracted perhaps, but if you fail to agree it then just stick on wto. Going back to the vid; I really got the impression he and the interviewer were slightly at crossed purposes. If not, and the government do somehow feel they could go no deal after a deal then they can get to fuck. Katya Adler, I think, was on 5 this morning Pretty sure she said even if his deal passes tomorrow, there's still time to go back and admit we have fucked up Quote
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