Politics

[miamiwhite]

21 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

What the fuck is that all about?

I bet that massive hairy clopper is full of thrush.

No idea mate, she’s one of your lot

 

[Spider]

Anyway

A message from my buyers in the Irish republic.

The deal is fetid. 

large numbers will simply look to the EU for suppliers now.

But who gives a fuck, right? 😊

[Cheese]

38 minutes ago, Spider said:

Anyway

A message from my buyers in the Irish republic.

The deal is fetid. 

large numbers will simply look to the EU for suppliers now.

But who gives a fuck, right? 😊

Can you not just pay them in renewed sense of Sovereignty's? 

Edited October 18, 2019 by Cheese

[birch-chorley]

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

B and M are merchants. Fish industry are producers. 

Without the latter the former don't exist.

You get the point 

Economically it has little or no importance in the overall picture 

Yet it’s so emotive and top of the agenda for BREXIT 

The big industries that contribute the most should be front and centre of our thinking 

Not something the third of the size of B&M 

[birch-chorley]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

Anyway

A message from my buyers in the Irish republic.

The deal is fetid. 

large numbers will simply look to the EU for suppliers now.

But who gives a fuck, right? 😊

You could always become a fisherman 

[Salford Trotter]

18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No don't think so.

You're well versed in telling mounts about the difference between a WA and a trade agreement, and you're right- they're different.

Once the first is in place that's that- I'm pretty sure there's no get out clause in the event of no trade agreement being in place.

Sorting the trade agreement will be like agreeing one with any other nation, long and protracted perhaps, but if you fail to agree it then just stick on wto.

Going back to the vid; I really got the impression he and the interviewer were slightly at crossed purposes.

If not, and the government do somehow feel they could go no deal after a deal then they can get to fuck.

By the sounds of it this is clearly unchartered territory for all of us so very different to the WA/PD discussion I have with Prof Mounts. No doubt it will become clearer over the next few months but I struggle to believe a word Johnson says right now

[Winchester White]

7 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

No idea mate, she’s one of your lot

 

I am not in any lot, especially those frequented by big biff birds.

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Winchester White said:

I am not in any lot, especially those frequented by big biff birds.

Bollocks....I bet you unwashed tramps love a huge piss filled motty to get your peggies into

 

[Winchester White]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

Bollocks....I bet you unwashed tramps love a huge piss filled motty to get your peggies into

 

Gip

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Can't you not just pay them in renewed sense of Sovereignty's? 

 

4 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

You could always become a fisherman 

Fair point

I should look at the bigger picture. My petty problems about paying the mortgage are insignificant compared with the satisfaction of saving Jonny Taxpayer £359,827,729,728,715,417 a week

[royal white]

What planet are some of these clowns on? 

[miamiwhite]

14 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Can't you not just pay them in renewed sense of Sovereignty's? 

Bringing the WW adjudication team in here.....

Couldn't you just have said rangatiratanga ?

[miamiwhite]

After a day of scrapping as always on here....can we lighten the mood and listen to how thick some of the current MPs are ?

 

 

[Jol_BWFC]

1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

After 2.30pm

Well be trying to get online at the Bok

With debate, amendments etc I expect it will be much later. 

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Jol_BWFC said:

With debate, amendments etc I expect it will be much later. 

Could well be a WW punch up outside the club shop AFTER the match

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Yes, but if I'm right, it's not clear in his explanation

As I understand it, the UK sells the right to decide who fishes our waters to foreign companies

Leaving British fishermen out of work

Probably Labour's fault, too

Fwiw, the UK fishing industry has been in decline forever

No not quite. They can buy British boats which I presume then gives them some of the profits.

The jobs are still with the British crews, obviously as things stand other foreign boats still fish our waters because of cfp.

You'd need to read up for more detail. Also bear in mind there are other factors in play with regards to the fishing industry and it's performance; stocks, pollution, quotas (some stupid rules seeing stuff chucked back), and consumer trends.

What it does mean is that as they now become under our jurisdiction, we can use access as a bargaining chip in any future negotiations.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

49 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

You get the point 

Economically it has little or no importance in the overall picture 

Yet it’s so emotive and top of the agenda for BREXIT 

The big industries that contribute the most should be front and centre of our thinking 

Not something the third of the size of B&M 

Sorry, can't agree.

B and M dwarf potato production, tomato production etc. Probably many more.

But together they're absolutely vital, as is all manufacturing.

Larger players like b and m can only become so by the existence of these.

In days of old, most stuff was sold by smaller merchants, who as individuals will have been much smaller than the industries that supplied them. Would you therefore ignore the value of these small shops? They would still add up to a similar total as fewer, big boys.

Without products, where would these companies make their money? 

They need each other, and the "smaller industries" are vital to the economy

[birch-chorley]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Sorry, can't agree.

B and M dwarf potato production, tomato production etc. Probably many more.

But together they're absolutely vital, as is all manufacturing.

Larger players like b and m can only become so by the existence of these.

In days of old, most stuff was sold by smaller merchants, who as individuals will have been much smaller than the industries that supplied them. Would you therefore ignore the value of these small shops? They would still add up to a similar total as fewer, big boys.

Without products, where would these companies make their money? 

They need each other, and the "smaller industries" are vital to the economy

Firstly, Fishing is an Industry, Potatoes etc are part of farming. Farming is worth 10 times what Fishing is, so it’s 10 times important in my book 

Still relatively small compared to FinancialServices which is 15 times bigger than Farming, 150 times bigger than fishing 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

43 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Could well be a WW punch up outside the club shop AFTER the match

 

I'm hoping a spitfire lands on the pitch at full time. Be reet.

[green genie]

5 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Firstly, Fishing is an Industry, Potatoes etc are part of farming. Farming is worth 10 times what Fishing is, so it’s 10 times important in my book 

Still relatively small compared to FinancialServices which is 15 times bigger than Farming, 150 times bigger than fishing 

Anybody remember the importance of BwFc and bury despite two multinationals on their door step? Anybody?

[Salford Trotter]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No don't think so.

You're well versed in telling mounts about the difference between a WA and a trade agreement, and you're right- they're different.

Once the first is in place that's that- I'm pretty sure there's no get out clause in the event of no trade agreement being in place.

Sorting the trade agreement will be like agreeing one with any other nation, long and protracted perhaps, but if you fail to agree it then just stick on wto.

Going back to the vid; I really got the impression he and the interviewer were slightly at crossed purposes.

If not, and the government do somehow feel they could go no deal after a deal then they can get to fuck.

It would seem there is scope for more Johnson skullduggery

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Firstly, Fishing is an Industry, Potatoes etc are part of farming. Farming is worth 10 times what Fishing is, so it’s 10 times important in my book 

Still relatively small compared to FinancialServices which is 15 times bigger than Farming, 150 times bigger than fishing 

Financial services: where does their money come from?

Everything as a result of primary producers initially. No industry or agriculture, no society as we know it, as you have nothing to invest.

To be honest, this 'sizeist' argument seems a bit perverse.

It wouldn't surprise me if the UK oil industry has a value much bigger than farming; do we ignore it all then?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

It would seem there is scope for more Johnson skullduggery

Like I said. A trade deal. Nothing to do with the WA that we'll have.

In fairness, there is effectively less in this WA out of necessity as parties viewed insufficient time otherwise. The rest goes into the development document thing.

[miamiwhite]

Not getting into a dispute here, but these scenes in France are absolutely appalling.

Could we actually envisage the respective services engaging like this over here ?

No matter how much I despise the EU, these kind of protests/scenes aren’t doing anybody an iota of good

 

 

 

[miamiwhite]

Also in Europe. Again, not debating the post, just purely posting it.

 

This is one big demo, crikey.