L/H White Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 anyone on Question Time? that Martin Daubney is one unbearable cunt Quote
kent_white Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 We've just massively sold NI out then have we? Is that the plan? Quote
Casino Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, L/H White said: anyone on Question Time? that Martin Daubney is one unbearable cunt Youre not wrong But if he's right with this... Then dear god Quote
Farrelli Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Casino said: Oh, but it has Well, it will if this deal passes Yep. Scotland will definitely be telling Boris where to stick his deal. NI will be left high and dry. Wales will come to its senses when reality hits home. But it'll be great for the union otherwise. Quote
Ani Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, L/H White said: anyone on Question Time? that Martin Daubney is one unbearable cunt Came across very badly. Although his answer about number of black and Asian MEPs made the guy in audience look daft. Edited October 17, 2019 by Ani Quote
Winchester White Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 This is the thing. If we want a free trade deal with the EU then we dance to their tune. This is something Brexiters fail to understand. The major economies of Europe don't pay into the EU for shits and giggles, why we thing we can have our cake and eat it is beyond me. All this crap about Boris playing a game and he really wants no deal is bollocks. He wants to stay as PM as long as possible, that is all but even he knows a no deal Brexit will end him. Quote
Salford Trotter Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Winchester White said: This is the thing. If we want a free trade deal with the EU then we dance to their tune. This is something Brexiters fail to understand. The major economies of Europe don't pay into the EU for shits and giggles, why we thing we can have our cake and eat it is beyond me. All this crap about Boris playing a game and he really wants no deal is bollocks. He wants to stay as PM as long as possible, that is all but even he knows a no deal Brexit will end him. We will get no better trade deals, with other countries, than the EU can/have negotiated as they have proved themselves to be far more skilled at this over the last 3.5 years than the UK and have run rings round us. We will have to shape up if we are going to get these stupendous trade deals we have been promised by the Leave campaign so we need to seriously consider strengthening our negotiating team and the refining our strategy. Quote
bolty58 Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Hope that the cunts in the HoC get this through - only to end this fucking stalemate - but suspect they will be as cuntish as ever. Not really that bothered if they act as I expect. I'd like to see Nigel and his mob do well at a GE; Labour get fucking slaughtered etc. If the deal goes through, would there be any further need for a TBP? Quote
dave2980 Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Spider said: So I send something - lets say a boiler - to Belfast, and get charged a tariff of £50. You're saying that I get my £50 back so long as it stays there? When do I get that? You probably won't be paying anything. Its usually the importer who pays the tariff Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 I see that various papers are reporting that government figures predicted that a deal on these terms would reduce GDP by 6.7%, or £130bn, over the next 15 years. That compares to a 2.1% reduction under May’s deal. No wonder Javid doesn’t want to provide an impact assessment before the vote tomorrow. Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: I see that various papers are reporting that government figures predicted that a deal on these terms would reduce GDP by 6.7%, or £130bn, over the next 15 years. That compares to a 2.1% reduction under May’s deal. No wonder Javid doesn’t want to provide an impact assessment before the vote tomorrow. Brexit has always been about making us poorer and weakening the union. That has been the result. Those supporting it are in effect voting for that. But its at the point where its so bad, so so bad that our best chance is sending NI into the sea, leaving Scotland likely to join them and losing the small matter of £130bn and everyone being a few grand worse off. That is better than a no deal alternative. Crazy times. The bleakest in British political history. Quote
bolty58 Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, dave2980 said: You probably won't be paying anything. Its usually the importer who pays the tariff No fucking wonder his business is going tits up! Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Brexit has always been about making us poorer and weakening the union. That has been the result. Those supporting it are in effect voting for that. But its at the point where its so bad, so so bad that our best chance is sending NI into the sea, leaving Scotland likely to join them and losing the small matter of £130bn and everyone being a few grand worse off. That is better than a no deal alternative. Crazy times. The bleakest in British political history. A weakening economy happens every time we vote in a labour government, if the country votes for something (even as stupid as the Labour Party) then it should happen, it’s called democracy. Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Brexit has always been about making us poorer and weakening the union. That has been the result. Those supporting it are in effect voting for that. But its at the point where its so bad, so so bad that our best chance is sending NI into the sea, leaving Scotland likely to join them and losing the small matter of £130bn and everyone being a few grand worse off. That is better than a no deal alternative. Crazy times. The bleakest in British political history. Suicide watch Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Suicide watch Not really. Knowing the truth is depressing. But history shows that right wing populism rears it’s head every now and again but never prevails for too long. We will be back to sensible, progressive centre ground politics within the next decade. Mark my words. Quote
Spider Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 3 hours ago, dave2980 said: You probably won't be paying anything. Its usually the importer who pays the tariff Jesus read the thread i was talking about ME setting up an agency in NI to get round my customer paying the tariffs. The inference being that it’s a simple way round these ‘stringent’ Irish Sea border checks. I didn’t realise I had to do every post as a pop up version 😳 Quote
Escobarp Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Not really. Knowing the truth is depressing. But history shows that right wing populism rears it’s head every now and again but never prevails for too long. We will be back to sensible, progressive centre ground politics within the next decade. Mark my words. To be fair even a broken clock is right twice a day. You spout that much sanctimonious know it all bollocks something has to be correct at some point. Law of probability Edited October 18, 2019 by Escobarp Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Not really. Knowing the truth is depressing. But history shows that right wing populism rears it’s head every now and again but never prevails for too long. We will be back to sensible, progressive centre ground politics within the next decade. Mark my words. Where is this right wing populism? Edited October 18, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Moon boy Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Not really. Knowing the truth is depressing. But history shows that right wing populism rears it’s head every now and again but never prevails for too long. We will be back to sensible, progressive centre ground politics within the next decade. Mark my words. Course we will, you’ve been bob on about everything up to now, shall we all hold hands? Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Where is this right wing populism? Right-wing populism, or national populism, is a political ideology which combines right-wing politics and populist rhetoric and themes. The rhetoric often consists of anti-elitist sentiments, opposition to the perceived Establishment, and speaking to the "common people". Brexit. In its entirety. Quote
jmjhb Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Most of the projections (yes, I know) have Johnson losing by between 3 and 6 votes Quote
Sweep Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Salford Trotter said: We will get no better trade deals, with other countries We already know that, part of this great new deal that Boris is talking about actually states that we cannot have/negotiate more favourable terms than the EU already has (level playing field) - fishing is a bit fucked as well I think. Sadly it means Farage is going to be around for many more years yet Quote
Sweep Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, jmjhb said: Most of the projections (yes, I know) have Johnson losing by between 3 and 6 votes that's still pretty tight, only needs one or two to sway - I'm really not sure what happens if it doesn't pass. Do we leave with no deal, do we get an extension, do we stay? - what happens to Moon Boys Good Ship Brexit? Quote
Cheese Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sweep said: that's still pretty tight, only needs one or two to sway - I'm really not sure what happens if it doesn't pass. Do we leave with no deal, do we get an extension, do we stay? - what happens to Moon Boys Good Ship Brexit? Anybody who attempts to answer that is just guessing. Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sweep said: that's still pretty tight, only needs one or two to sway - I'm really not sure what happens if it doesn't pass. Do we leave with no deal, do we get an extension, do we stay? - what happens to Moon Boys Good Ship Brexit? I think we are back into the mire of delays, second referendum etc Quote
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