Escobarp Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spider said: Renault Proper British manufacturer. Does it matter? Not really. If they want to employ British people and increase headcount on these shores I’m all for it Quote
Sweep Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s only a matter of time, French unions and high wages in France makes it a certainty. I applaud your enthusiasm and optimism Quote
Spider Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Does it matter? Not really. If they want to employ British people and increase headcount on these shores I’m all for it Not to me. But there’s an obsession with British made, British owned, Union Jack. Of course we want foreign investment. But we were getting that anyway. Quote
Escobarp Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Spider said: Not to me. But there’s an obsession with British made, British owned, Union Jack. Of course we want foreign investment. But we were getting that anyway. You will get that in every nation on earth though. A minority who have a very very limited understanding of the real world and how economies work. im loathe to use some of the terminology/names (quite funny if I’m honest 😁) you use to describe this section of society. But we’re not alone in this regard. I do think it will have a positive impact on a small section of the manufacturing industry, but are people suddenly going to just buy British? We all know that’s not going to happen. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Spider said: So now brexit is about protecting the financial interests of a Japanese carmaker? Well that’s ok then. Any large company will be angling for anything they can get via government incentives during the changes that are to come. As for a no deal situation, we've been here before. All very familiar and we know what happened last time with last minute agreements. Can't see anything other than something similar this time: caught a speech from Bill Cash earlier, he's obviously a leaver, but there's no finer mind when it comes to understanding laws, agreements etc. He's a walking encyclopedia in fact. His message was essentially EU currently asking for too much, some explanation of why Germany is increasing its influence within the bloc, etc etc. EU on the other hand saying similar about us. After what went on last time, not going to bother with it all until it's finalised. Screeching and bickering is unhealthy, particularly when there's a nasty virus about. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, Escobarp said: You will get that in every nation on earth though. A minority who have a very very limited understanding of the real world and how economies work. im loathe to use some of the terminology/names (quite funny if I’m honest 😁) you use to describe this section of society. But we’re not alone in this regard. I do think it will have a positive impact on a small section of the manufacturing industry, but are people suddenly going to just buy British? We all know that’s not going to happen. I believe we are going to see some growth in British manufacturing, as much, if not more so, because of the virus. Lisa Nancy speaking earlier, echoed what ministers etc have been saying. There is/was insufficient capacity in the UK to make test kits, PPE etc. Surely there will be government inducements for companies over here to expand operations in this sector. This in turn may have some knock on effects on other manufacturers. Small acorns and all that. Quote
Farrelli Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52934128 I can't believe the Tories would lie about something they agreed to Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Farrelli said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52934128 I can't believe the Tories would lie about something they agreed to About time the Tories got stuck into Barnier and the EU. Quote
Spider Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 On 05/06/2020 at 15:13, Mounts Kipper said: About time the Tories got stuck into Barnier and the EU. Why Boris said the Brexit deal was “Oven Ready” Surely they just need to set the oven to 200 degrees and we’re off? Quote
Cheese Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Spider said: Why Boris said the Brexit deal was “Oven Ready” Surely they just need to set the oven to 200 degrees and we’re off? People like mounts don't mind being lied to. Even if the new lie totally contradicts a previous lie he celebrated. He's been dancing on the head of a pin for the last 4 years. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, Spider said: Why Boris said the Brexit deal was “Oven Ready” Surely they just need to set the oven to 200 degrees and we’re off? EU playing hardball for a long time, thankfully we’ve now got someone who’s not having his belly tickled. Quote
Spider Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: EU playing hardball for a long time, thankfully we’ve now got someone who’s not having his belly tickled. Oven Ready Quote
Moon boy Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 Like someone said “ Barnier is not the referee he’s a player” Quote
Cheese Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) To summarise - Boris is "playing hardball" in order to fix "an unfair deal" that he personally signed off and celebrated before using it as the main selling point in his election campaign - and people like Mounts are still lapping it up. Incredible. Edited June 12, 2020 by Cheese Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Cheese said: To summarise - Boris is "playing hardball" in order to fix "an unfair deal" that he personally signed off and celebrated before using it as the main selling point in his election campaign - and people like Mounts are still lapping it up. Incredible. Good on Boris, keep the pressure up, edging for the best deal he can for U.K. plc, of course you’ll be hoping Barnier gets better deal for EU. in the meantime I see Unilever ditching the Amsterdam move. Edited June 12, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Cheese Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Good on Boris, keep the pressure up, edging for the best deal he can for U.K. plc, of course you’ll be hoping Barnier gets better deal for EU. Far from it. I'm hoping we get all the brilliant benefits and unicorns we were promised. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: Far from it. I'm hoping we get all the brilliant benefits and unicorns we were promised. Yet you are seemingly not happy Boris playing hardball. Strange but not surprising you don’t seem to like Boris fighting our corner. Quote
Spider Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 I see it’s going to be a free for all on stuff coming in, but stuff going the other way is still subject to tariffs and all the other stuff we wanted then didn’t want but now we might do. Oven Ready: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53018020 Quote
Escobarp Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Spider said: I see it’s going to be a free for all on stuff coming in, but stuff going the other way is still subject to tariffs and all the other stuff we wanted then didn’t want but now we might do. Oven Ready: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53018020 Short term Quote
Spider Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Short term So why not reciprocal? If it's short term. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, Mr Grey said: Go Boris ✊ Isn’t that the “wanker” emoji? Quote
Escobarp Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, Spider said: So why not reciprocal? If it's short term. Because we don’t control what the other side do. They have made a decision to do something that they perceive will be beneficial that’s how it looks to me. seems odd like you say that we haven’t got a reciprocal agreement, maybe they tried and EU couldn’t gain consensus from its member states? Who knows but I’m not Involved in the negotiations so no idea what’s going on same as any of us apart from a few highly knowledgable folk on here who know everything Quote
Farrelli Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Spider said: I see it’s going to be a free for all on stuff coming in, but stuff going the other way is still subject to tariffs and all the other stuff we wanted then didn’t want but now we might do. Oven Ready: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53018020 'half-baked' was more appropriate but not a vote winner Quote
Spider Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Because we don’t control what the other side do. They have made a decision to do something that they perceive will be beneficial that’s how it looks to me. seems odd like you say that we haven’t got a reciprocal agreement, maybe they tried and EU couldn’t gain consensus from its member states? Who knows but I’m not Involved in the negotiations so no idea what’s going on same as any of us apart from a few highly knowledgable folk on here who know everything blah blah, The Iliad, Bullingdon, something about beating journalists up, waffle, Latin, we're in this together, laying siege to Troy, how many children?, blah bumkum wibble. Am I close? Quote
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