Politics

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Yes he has employed all those rioting that Miami keeps posting about. 
 

In with the Lout. (Dans avec le riotuer) 

The article has a lot of if/maybes/plans in there. It should probably more accurately read ‘this bloke is hoping to get a good to keep his business in the UK. As a starter he kicked off a rumour about leaving.’ 

Yes I read a lot of maybes. farrelli Must have some inside info 

[Escobarp]

52 minutes ago, emus wig said:

Don’t you live in a country that voted to remain ? Strange .

No strangely enough as the only country that had a vote was the UK. And we voted to leave

Thanks for walking into that one 😘

[Farrelli]

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

Has he set up in France? 

Plans for the new plant in Bridgend have been put on hold. Ineos have said they are looking at buying the Hambach site in France which has now come on the market. The Welsh government are seriously concerned that the project will be abandoned. 

[Ani]

Just now, Farrelli said:

Plans for the new plant in Bridgend have been put on hold. Ineos have said they are looking at buying the Hambach site in France which has now come on the market. The Welsh government are seriously concerned that the project will be abandoned. 

What would you do if you were a business looking to locate a business in the current climate ? It may happen but that article is is speculation. The Brexit should know however as the economic future was clear. 

[Farrelli]

4 minutes ago, Ani said:

What would you do if you were a business looking to locate a business in the current climate ? It may happen but that article is is speculation. The Brexit should know however as the economic future was clear. 

I've no problem with any business or individual taking decisions that best suits their needs.  However, when you have been publicly outspoken about something like Brexit you are always going to be scrutinised for decisions like this.  If Ineos end up moving to a new factory in the EU rather than Wales it is very hypocritical IMO.  Just a long line of similar hypocrites though, Farage's children having German passports, Rees Mogg moving assets to Dublin, Nigel Lawson applying for French residency, etc.  

[royal white]

31 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Plans for the new plant in Bridgend have been put on hold. Ineos have said they are looking at buying the Hambach site in France which has now come on the market. The Welsh government are seriously concerned that the project will be abandoned. 

So you’re just speculating like the article is. I thought as much 

[Farrelli]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

So you’re just speculating like the article is. I thought as much 

They were well down the road with this project and have now put it on hold.  Ineos have said they are considering buying the plant in France as an alternative.  None of that is speculation but we will see what happens next.   

[ZiggyStardust]

58 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I've no problem with any business or individual taking decisions that best suits their needs.  However, when you have been publicly outspoken about something like Brexit you are always going to be scrutinised for decisions like this.  If Ineos end up moving to a new factory in the EU rather than Wales it is very hypocritical IMO.  Just a long line of similar hypocrites though, Farage's children having German passports, Rees Mogg moving assets to Dublin, Nigel Lawson applying for French residency, etc.  

Out of curiosity:

MD of a multinational is outspoken on brexit (in that he is for it).

What is the minimum percentege of future jobs that said multinational creates must be in Britain, before he is classed as hypocritical ?

100%. 90%. 80% etc.

 

Just Curious.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, emus wig said:

Don’t you live in a country that voted to remain ? Strange .

Doesn't keep banging on about it neither.

Ineos also played a big part in helping Britain get it's testing industry up and running. Cunts they are.

[Farrelli]

14 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Out of curiosity:

MD of a multinational is outspoken on brexit (in that he is for it).

What is the minimum percentege of future jobs that said multinational creates must be in Britain, before he is classed as hypocritical ?

100%. 90%. 80% etc.

 

Just Curious.

The question you pose is not relevant.  

Brexiteers have frequently characterised the EU as a regulatory nightmare that impedes global openness and free trade.

Therefore, why would you move your new factory there ?

[Escobarp]

Because they have a ready made plant available to move into that is ideal for purpose and will save them millions of pounds? Just a thought 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

The question you pose is not relevant.  

Brexiteers have frequently characterised the EU as a regulatory nightmare that impedes global openness and free trade.

Therefore, why would you move your new factory there ?

Why would you move production from the EU to the UK?

Weird.

Or then again, perhaps it just happens to suit the business set up of a particular company.

[ZiggyStardust]

Just now, Farrelli said:

The question you pose is not relevant.  

Brexiteers have frequently characterised the EU as a regulatory nightmare that impedes global openness and free trade.

Therefore, why would you move your new factory there ?

Perhaps they are getting one of those huge kickbacks that the EU don't allow* ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* unless you belong to 'certain' countries that make, but ignore, the EU rules.

https://www.accountancydaily.co/france-tops-list-providing-unlawful-tax-breaks-using-state-aid

[London Wanderer]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Doesn't keep banging on about it neither.

Ineos also played a big part in helping Britain get it's testing industry up and running. Cunts they are.

They are also responsible for over a third of all Scotland's CO2 emissions & continually lobby against meaningful changes to climate legislation.. 

Jim Ratcliffe doesn't care about these things & I've chatted to many folk who hated working for him. Most of that coast along Fife is polluted & unsafe for  locals because of the shite Ineos spews into the sea.

But they provide jobs & got testing going - so let's forgive all that?

[Farrelli]

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why would you move production from the EU to the UK?

Weird.

Or then again, perhaps it just happens to suit the business set up of a particular company.

They had planned to build the factory next to the Ford place in Bridgend.

It was going to be a new build to manufacture 4x4 vehicles, they were not moving it from anywhere.

They are now considering having it in France.

Weird decision for a brexiteer.

[Farrelli]

19 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Because they have a ready made plant available to move into that is ideal for purpose and will save them millions of pounds? Just a thought 

Yes but think of all that anti-trade regulation they will have to abide by.

Or perhaps it was a lie that suited the narrative during the leave/remain campaign, just a thought😀

[Tonge moor green jacket]

45 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

They are also responsible for over a third of all Scotland's CO2 emissions & continually lobby against meaningful changes to climate legislation.. 

Jim Ratcliffe doesn't care about these things & I've chatted to many folk who hated working for him. Most of that coast along Fife is polluted & unsafe for  locals because of the shite Ineos spews into the sea.

But they provide jobs & got testing going - so let's forgive all that?

There are laws to deal with that; if they are indeed guilty of breaking them then they should be prosecuted like anyone else.

As for co2 emissions; any company which chooses to ignore the situation runs the risk of falling behind as technology and society shifts. So they must change or fail.

Don't make out that they are the only ones pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere though. They all will need to change as time moves on.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

42 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

They had planned to build the factory next to the Ford place in Bridgend.

It was going to be a new build to manufacture 4x4 vehicles, they were not moving it from anywhere.

They are now considering having it in France.

Weird decision for a brexiteer.

Whoosh.

[London Wanderer]

58 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

There are laws to deal with that; if they are indeed guilty of breaking them then they should be prosecuted like anyone else.

As for co2 emissions; any company which chooses to ignore the situation runs the risk of falling behind as technology and society shifts. So they must change or fail.

Don't make out that they are the only ones pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere though. They all will need to change as time moves on.

Unfortunately not. SEPA have relaxed many of those laws recently and we're seeing a lot of unregulated pollution occuring. Grangemouth have been pouring chemicals into the sea for decades with no sign of prosecution. Jim Ratcliffe couldn't give a shite - & as you can probably tell - I've a bee in my bonnet about him. He knows all too well that by leaving the EU he will be able to dodge all sorts of environmental legislation. 

Ineos are unique in that they are repsonsible for a huge amount of emissions. A third of Scotland's is a massive proportion. There are 100 companies worldwide responsible for over 70% of emissions. The idea that it's everyone just doesn't add up. 

Anyway - maybe I'm on the wrong thread - tried to link it to Brexit in some way

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, Farrelli said:

Yes but think of all that anti-trade regulation they will have to abide by.

Or perhaps it was a lie that suited the narrative during the leave/remain campaign, just a thought😀

With your creative headlining which is full of ifs and ands, did you overlook this news which will create 2,500 new jobs in Leicester  ?

I think you also missed that Unilever is staying in the UK after originally threatening in 2018 to move its UK base to The Netherlands.

For balance like yours, Shell MAY be scrapping its base in The Netherlands and moving it to the UK

 

 

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

With your creative headlining which is full of ifs and ands, did you overlook this news which will create 2,500 new jobs in Leicester  ?

I think you also missed that Unilever is staying in the UK after originally threatening in 2018 to move its UK base to The Netherlands.

For balance like yours, Shell MAY be scrapping its base in The Netherlands and moving it to the UK

 

 

We're still in the European Space Agency

[miamiwhite]

Just now, kent_white said:

We're still in the European Space Agency

Yes, I'm well aware of that, just showing new jobs are being created here pal.

Thoughts on Unilever and also the possibility of Shell ?

[kent_white]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Yes, I'm well aware of that, just showing new jobs are being created here pal.

Thoughts on Unilever and also the possibility of Shell ?

Very good news. But it'll still only scratch the surface of the long term economic damage we'll do by leaving. 

Anyway - it feels like I've gone back in time 18 months here!

[miamiwhite]

Just now, kent_white said:

Very good news. But it'll still only scratch the surface of the long term economic damage we'll do by leaving. 

Anyway - it feels like I've gone back in time 18 months here!

18 months and you've brought your crystal ball with you....fantastic 😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

15 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

18 months and you've brought your crystal ball with you....fantastic 😂

I've still not found anywhere selling these crystal balls.