Politics

[Spider]

Jesus

I leave you all alone for an evening and it almost ends in fisticuffs on the dogshit-littered pavements of Anfield.

Why is it an assumption by The Bullingdon Club members on here (Bolty, Grey, Miami, Royal etc...) that if you don’t want to rim Johnson and Cummings you are automatically a red?

Corbyn was a cunt. Got what he deserved.

Starmer is better. If anything, the bluenoses should be full of admiration for the way he’s squirmed his way to the top.

Labour aren’t a threat yet. But the fact Starmer has the Tories even slightly rattled suggests he will be in the fullness of time.

The country desperately needs a strong and capable opposition. The rent boys are taking the piss right now.

[Not in Crawley]

Yeah, who are these Corbyn supporters on here? I mean i get the fact that unless you are supporting gunboats in the channel, all for obliterating Palestinians, burning the Quran on Halliwell Rd, questioning why the country should feed hungry kids or not wearing your MAGA y-fronts that you are a bed wetting, Lenninist who has yet to 'grow up' into a single solution blowhard.

I just don't think its an issue with any moderates on here, seems to me more of that poor me, why don't you agree with me victimhood we saw from Paul Handyshandy.

[tomski]

23 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Oh good god no. Never 

Phew

[Farrelli]

13 hours ago, gonzo said:

Works both ways. Like carlos said the other day, it shouldn't need saying.

Why bring other race issues in the equation? 

Well nobody moves the goal posts in a debate more than Miami. He will throw a random link in about Sadiq Khan’s local butcher when we are discussing Liverpool’s forward line.

But frankly, other race issues are extremely relevant in this case. You can’t hold the moral high ground on one form of prejudice if you are not able to even acknowledge serious racism exists against other minorities. He also continually tries to discredit the movements that try to bring about change, why?

And for the record I’m delighted that anti-semitism in the Labour Party has been brought out in the open by this report. It was a situation allowed to fester by Corbyn and he has rightly been heavily criticised and suspended.

[Mounts Kipper]

32 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Well nobody moves the goal posts in a debate more than Miami. He will throw a random link in about Sadiq Khan’s local butcher when we are discussing Liverpool’s forward line.

But frankly, other race issues are extremely relevant in this case. You can’t hold the moral high ground on one form of prejudice if you are not able to even acknowledge serious racism exists against other minorities. He also continually tries to discredit the movements that try to bring about change, why?

And for the record I’m delighted that anti-semitism in the Labour Party has been brought out in the open by this report. It was a situation allowed to fester by Corbyn and he has rightly been heavily criticised and suspended.

Starmer was part of Corbyn government, is that whats meant by squirming to the top?

Edited October 31, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Starmer was part of Corbyn government, is that what you mean by squirming to the top?

Boris Johnson was in Theresa Mays government but you trust him implicitly regarding brexit. That is an example of really squirming and fudging your way to the top.

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Boris Johnson was in Theresa Mays government but you trust him implicitly regarding brexit. That is an example of really squirming and fudging your way to the top.

Johnson quit, Starmer didn’t.  That’s the difference. 

[Not in Crawley]

25 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Johnson quit, Starmer didn’t.  That’s the difference. 

For his own political gain. He did it to get the euro sceptics onside. It was for his own expedience. If you can't even see that you really are blind to the facts.

[Farrelli]

33 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

For his own political gain. He did it to get the euro sceptics onside. It was for his own expedience. If you can't even see that you really are blind to the facts.

Spoiler alert, he really is.

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

For his own political gain. He did it to get the euro sceptics onside. It was for his own expedience. If you can't even see that you really are blind to the facts.

No doubt Starmer stayed for his own political gain. That’s what they do, 2 cheeks of same arse. 

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

No doubt Starmer stayed for his own political gain. That’s what they do, 2 cheeks of same arse. 

But you were using it as an argument to promote Boris' virtues in resigning. Why tie yourself up in knots?

[Cheese]

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Starmer was part of Corbyn government, is that whats meant by squirming to the top?

When was there a Corbyn Government? 

[Mounts Kipper]

42 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

But you were using it as an argument to promote Boris' virtues in resigning. Why tie yourself up in knots?

I was just highlighting the difference. 

[Mounts Kipper]

21 minutes ago, Cheese said:

When was there a Corbyn Government? 

Apologies, should of said shadow cabinet. 

[MickyD]

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Starmer was part of Corbyn government, is that whats meant by squirming to the top?

 

53 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

No doubt Starmer stayed for his own political gain. That’s what they do, 2 cheeks of same arse. 

Starmer  identified the ticking time-bomb that was Corbyn and friends. He knew they couldn’t win the GE but rather than rock an already sinking boat, he started finding the biggest lifeboat and sat waiting for the last bubbles.

Sneaky fucker to have in your team if he isn’t prepared to state the obvious on the run up to an election. He wasn’t alone in that though.

[Not in Crawley]

44 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I was just highlighting the difference. 

But then you said they were both doing the exact same thing. You can't use the same point to make two different, and completely opposing views.

[mickbrown]

54 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Apologies, should of said shadow cabinet. 

Also should have said 'should have'. 😀

[miamiwhite]

5 hours ago, Farrelli said:

Well nobody moves the goal posts in a debate more than Miami. He will throw a random link in about Sadiq Khan’s local butcher when we are discussing Liverpool’s forward line.

But frankly, other race issues are extremely relevant in this case. You can’t hold the moral high ground on one form of prejudice if you are not able to even acknowledge serious racism exists against other minorities. He also continually tries to discredit the movements that try to bring about change, why?

And for the record I’m delighted that anti-semitism in the Labour Party has been brought out in the open by this report. It was a situation allowed to fester by Corbyn and he has rightly been heavily criticised and suspended.

I've discredited organisations like BLM because they are Marxist and iconoclastic, I said that from day one on the other thread and my point was proven. 

I asked you yesterday to show me definitive proof, not your opinion re racism existing in The Met etc, then I will gladly acknowledge if racism exists there.

Re minorities, are blacks in America a minority ? I don't think so.

[Winchester White]

19 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Re minorities, are blacks in America a minority ? I don't think so.

Then you would be wrong.

[Not in Crawley]

BLM marxist. Can you provide some Boom facts? 

[miamiwhite]

24 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

BLM marxist. Can you provide some Boom facts? 

Check their own website, and quotes from the leader.....Boom indeed 

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Check their own website, and quotes from the leader.....Boom indeed 

Would you mind copying the Marxist bits please, just for the class?

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Would you mind copying the Marxist bits please, just for the class?

Patrisse Cullors...find it yourself fella.......just for the class.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Patrisse Cullors...find it yourself fella.......just for the class.

We’re guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white-supremacy, patriarchy and the state structures that disproportionately harm black people in Britain and around the world. 

[miamiwhite]

35 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Then you would be wrong.

The actual minority in the States are the Native Hawaiians, so, you are wrong son.