What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Nope I voted to leave the EU federal state as part Brexit deal  our government opted to stay in the horizon scheme and the EU then spit their dummy out over cooked meats imports and chose to politicise that over saving lives. But it’s always our fault. 

Tbf people can not say no one knew about Horizon and then say someone else voted to opt out. People could vote on the 'facts' provided. 
 

Although Project Fear is a bit more accurate that Leavers claimed. 

17 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Nope I voted to leave the EU federal state as part Brexit deal  our government opted to stay in the horizon scheme and the EU then spit their dummy out over cooked meats imports and chose to politicise that over saving lives. But it’s always our fault. 

Let’s twist again like we did last Summer🎵

55 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Nope I voted to leave the EU federal state as part Brexit deal  our government opted to stay in the horizon scheme and the EU then spit their dummy out over cooked meats imports and chose to politicise that over saving lives. But it’s always our fault. 

🙃

So Chris Pincher has now gone. 9 By-elections since he became PM, poor old Rishi, the government is as secure as our school roofs.

They've really made a pigs ear of the september return to parliment - brefing against each other, keeping people in post that won't be there for the election. Deary me.

2 hours ago, Farrelli said:

Let’s twist again like we did last Summer🎵

Reminds me of Jimmy Phillips up against Paulo Di Canio at Hillsborough that day.

How much are we paying for this Horizon doobry anyway?

17 hours ago, Winchester White said:

How much are we paying for this Horizon doobry anyway?

£2.2 billion per year

1 hour ago, Farrelli said:

£2.2 billion per year

Bloody hell, that's a fair chunk but must be worth it.

On 07/09/2023 at 12:20, Ani said:

Tbf people can not say no one knew about Horizon and then say someone else voted to opt out. People could vote on the 'facts' provided. 
 

Although Project Fear is a bit more accurate that Leavers claimed. 

Horizon was a factor and known about before the vote.

We were told categorically "no" to membership outside the eu, despite us being willing to continue to participate. 

All part of the negotiations and still no.

Cutting of the nose to spite the face.

Then bingo we're back in.

On the face of it a good thing, though I've heard some objections which maybe bordering on the hysterical/conspiratorial. 

 

5 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Bloody hell, that's a fair chunk but must be worth it.

A drop in the ocean really. And you get why we complain about getting scraps off the table in the creative sector, despite the UK being a world leader, one of our soft power exports and bringing in huge amounts of money into the coffers.

 

30 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Horizon was a factor and known about before the vote.

We were told categorically "no" to membership outside the eu, despite us being willing to continue to participate. 

All part of the negotiations and still no.

Cutting of the nose to spite the face.

Then bingo we're back in.

On the face of it a good thing, though I've heard some objections which maybe bordering on the hysterical/conspiratorial. 

So you either voted Leave and didn't understand what it meant, or you knew it would mean leaving the Horizon scheme and were willing to accept that. Can't be both.

22 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So you either voted Leave and didn't understand what it meant, or you knew it would mean leaving the Horizon scheme and were willing to accept that. Can't be both.

So you are saying it was impossible to leave, and also be part of Horizon ?

6 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

So you are saying it was impossible to leave, and also be part of Horizon ?

Not at all. But that question wasn't asked on the ballot. So if you voted to Leave, you either knew that would mean leaving every EU institution, or you didn't understand/care about the complexity of the ridiculously simplified question.

7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Not at all. But that question wasn't asked on the ballot. So if you voted to Leave, you either knew that would mean leaving every EU institution, or you didn't understand/care about the complexity of the ridiculously simplified question.

You could say that about the whole vote. There was plenty of time and plenty of discussion prior to the vote. The government, as I’ve said many times, sent a leaflet out explaining why it was beneficial to stay in the EU. Some decided to ignore it. It’s done. We left. I swear, some of you when you’re old and grey will be talking about it like we do now about flared trousers.😊

Just now, BobyBrno said:

You could say that about the whole vote. There was plenty of time and plenty of discussion prior to the vote. The government, as I’ve said many times, sent a leaflet out explaining why it was beneficial to stay in the EU. Some decided to ignore it. It’s done. We left. I swear, some of you when you’re old and grey will be talking about it like we do now about flared trousers.😊

Correct. And as we slowly creep back in, some of you will celebrate each step until you've forgotten why you voted to leave in the first place.

14 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Correct. And as we slowly creep back in, some of you will celebrate each step until you've forgotten why you voted to leave in the first place.

You really don’t listen do you. I FUCKING VOTED TO REMAIN. 
I haven’t forgotten the bet. 👍

17 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

You really don’t listen do you. I FUCKING VOTED TO REMAIN. 
I haven’t forgotten the bet. 👍

I don't take much notice, no.

Just now, Cheese said:

I don't take much notice, no.

Obviously. The bet still stands though. 

1 hour ago, ZiggyStardust said:

So you are saying it was impossible to leave, and also be part of Horizon ?

No but once we started rowing back on the trade agreement we had signed with respect to NI it gave the EU leverage to hold us to account.

44 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Correct. And as we slowly creep back in, some of you will celebrate each step until you've forgotten why you voted to leave in the first place.

And the Tories will be claiming they got a great deal with Europe 

56 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Obviously. The bet still stands though. 

Of course. Whatever it was.

Edited September 8, 20232 yr by Cheese

 

 

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Not at all. But that question wasn't asked on the ballot. So if you voted to Leave, you either knew that would mean leaving every EU institution, or you didn't understand/care about the complexity of the ridiculously simplified question.

Sorry , bit thick here.

when you said:

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

So you either voted Leave and didn't understand what it meant, or you knew it would mean leaving the Horizon scheme and were willing to accept that. Can't be both.

What did you mean, if you didnt mean that by leaving it would mean leaving the horizon scheme, if you think that leaving and being a member of Horizon was possible ?

Can't be both.

And how are New Zealand members, unless they joined the EU whilst no-one was looking ?

 

 

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Of course. Whatever it was.

😉 👍