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[Not in Crawley]

Well, this whole dentist problem we're having. Thought I'd best get a check up as its been nearly 9 years, phoned my local dentist.

'Are you taking on NHS patients?'

'Yes.'

'Oh. Thanks.'

'We'll book you in for a check up at the end of the month.'

'Great.'

I was shocked given how bad some people are saying it is - I guess its in particular areas, or I might have just got lucky.

 

[Traf]

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Well, this whole dentist problem we're having. Thought I'd best get a check up as its been nearly 9 years, phoned my local dentist.

'Are you taking on NHS patients?'

'Yes.'

'Oh. Thanks.'

'We'll book you in for a check up at the end of the month.'

'Great.'

I was shocked given how bad some people are saying it is - I guess its in particular areas, or I might have just got lucky.

 

You live in the South East, that's all.

Elsewhere on this sceptred isle...https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/05/police-intervene-as-hundreds-queue-at-new-nhs-dental-practi/

 

Edited February 8, 2024 by Traf

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Traf said:

You don't live in the North anymore.

 

I was just listening on Newscast which promted me to phone - they said its bad everywhere, better in Scotland apparently - due to dentists being paid per filling rather than in one lump sum for all the work, apparently

Anyway - quick look and this article seems good -https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11719101/How-bad-NHS-dentistry-crisis-area.html

Seems the east of the country is pretty bad. So in comparision Bromley has 4,405 for every one dentist, Bolton 6,579

 

[Farrelli]

16 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Well, this whole dentist problem we're having. Thought I'd best get a check up as its been nearly 9 years, phoned my local dentist.

'Are you taking on NHS patients?'

'Yes.'

'Oh. Thanks.'

'We'll book you in for a check up at the end of the month.'

'Great.'

I was shocked given how bad some people are saying it is - I guess its in particular areas, or I might have just got lucky.

 

You are lucky. There is a shortage of dentists nearly everywhere. Most dentists in their 50s can’t wait to get out early as NHS quotas are growing and the fees they receive are completely  inadequate to cover time/resources.

[frank_spencer]

Still waiting to get a dentist, about 12onths after putting myself on loads of waiting lists.

Don't get why Dentists don't work like opticians where every dentist will take NHS free prescription patients for check ups then maybe a voucher towards any treatment dependent on the patients needs.

[royal white]

2 hours ago, meanderson93 said:

Why should he answer it? Why does it matter? Why do you care?

Really? 

[royal white]

55 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

So that mr tangent can go on one of his random whatabouttery journeys 

It’s whataboutery* think that’s the 4th time I’ve tried to help you. 

[Farrelli]

cheers Rog

Edited February 8, 2024 by Farrelli

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Still waiting to get a dentist, about 12onths after putting myself on loads of waiting lists.

Don't get why Dentists don't work like opticians where every dentist will take NHS free prescription patients for check ups then maybe a voucher towards any treatment dependent on the patients needs.

Dentist on newcast explains the problem - its not something I was hugely aware of in terms of how Dentists get paid for NHS work.

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, Farrelli said:

You are lucky. There is a shortage of dentists nearly everywhere. Most dentists in their 50s can’t wait to get out early as NHS quotas are growing and the fees they receive are completely  inadequate to cover time/resources.

They also do botox, can't wait - I'm going for the full glow up...

 

 

[royal white]

Let’s be honest we’re pretty similar to America at the minute. Of All the millions of people  in the country the best we can produce are Rishi and Kier. Both full of shit.

 

 

[Cheese]

16 minutes ago, royal white said:

Let’s be honest we’re pretty similar to America at the minute. Of All the millions of people  in the country the best we can produce are Rishi and Kier. Both full of shit.

 

 

At long last, you denounce your love for Trump. Well done.

Edited February 9, 2024 by Cheese

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

At long last, you denounce your love for Trump. Well done.

Hell no. I will however wait for you to say that Labour are also a shit show. Go on say it. 

[Not in Crawley]

When those trying to defend the indefensible realise they cant anymore, its the same old 'yeah, well everyone is just shit.'

A tale as old as time, playground level stuff.

[royal white]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

When those trying to defend the indefensible realise they cant anymore, its the same old 'yeah, well everyone is just shit.'

A tale as old as time, playground level stuff.

And you represent them 😂😂 cringe 

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, royal white said:

And you represent them 😂😂 cringe 

Represent who?

[Spider]

Labour have backtracked because it’s obvious that the money isn’t going to be there.

I wonder why that is?

[Not in Crawley]

Hey if RW wants to start quoting the loony left fringe like the Newham independents so be it.

Not be long before he's on a free Palestine march.

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Labour have backtracked because it’s obvious that the money isn’t going to be there.

I wonder why that is?

Interesting on QT last night that there seemed to be broad support for some sort of political honesty - cash isn't going to be there, so we can't do it. 

It's slightly more refreshing than doubling down on nonsense policies for ideological reasons.

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Interesting on QT last night that there seemed to be broad support for some sort of political honesty - cash isn't going to be there, so we can't do it. 

It's slightly more refreshing than doubling down on nonsense policies for ideological reasons.

It’s all most sensible people want.

And they have explained that alternative measures will be undertaken.

Bear in mind I have a vested interest in renewable energy so Labour’s manifesto on this is key for me.

The Tories can say what they like, I no longer trust a single word they utter.

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, Spider said:

It’s all most sensible people want.

And they have explained that alternative measures will be undertaken.

Bear in mind I have a vested interest in renewable energy so Labour’s manifesto on this is key for me.

The Tories can say what they like, I no longer trust a single word they utter.

It's been handled badly in that they shouldn't have gone so hard and heavy on it at the time. But like most sensible people, they've realised it's just not going to be feasible at this point and as you say, an alternative timetable.offered.

It's not ideal, but it's realistic and a bit boring - I think that's what most people seem to want now - not fire and brimstone terrace showboating from the back of lecterns. Just basic policy work.

[BobyBrno]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

Labour have backtracked because it’s obvious that the money isn’t going to be there.

I wonder why that is?

It wasn’t there last year. 
They haven’t a clue but no one wants to acknowledge it. Cue ‘but they can’t be worse’ etc.etc. 
RW makes a fair point. The choices are poor but no one wants to talk about Labour. A case of ‘deniable accountability’ 

 

[deeane Koontz]

It's fair to point out the amount of U turns Starmer has made.

It makes you look like a bit of a sausage to brush them under the rug

Edited February 9, 2024 by deeane Koontz

[Not in Crawley]

Maarsh and BB, we are blessed this week.

 

[Cheese]

38 minutes ago, royal white said:

Hell no. I will however wait for you to say that Labour are also a shit show. Go on say it. 

So how are we similar to the US then?