DazBob Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, royal white said: The question was “do you think it’s gone well” well it has for some and not others, what else would you want me to say. Give an overall opinion maybe, rather than stating the fucking obvious 😂 Quote
Cheese Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Puffins think it’s great.👍 Superb. It was well worth it then. Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, DazBob said: Give an overall opinion maybe, rather than stating the fucking obvious 😂 Have a look, if you or Chief spaz can’t find any then surely you should agree with me that one of the main parties should be pushing for a referendum. I mean we had a flashy poll on here the other day saying something like 80% of the public now disagreed with Brexit (or something similar) Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, royal white said: Yes because that’s what the people voted for. So that's why you support it still? Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said: So that's why you support it still? Yes Al I’m not a depressing teddy out of the pram kind of guy. The vote was won fair and square. If it was going horrendously I’d probably change my mind but the fact no party wants us to go back is telling me it’s not as bad as many depressing teddy out of the pram kind of guys are making it out to be. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, royal white said: Yes Al I’m not a depressing teddy out of the pram kind of guy. The vote was won fair and square. If it was going horrendously I’d probably change my mind but the fact no party wants us to go back is telling me it’s not as bad as many depressing teddy out of the pram kind of guys are making it out to be. So as a current supporter of Brexit, have you benefitted from the UK leaving as your earlier supposition posited? Quote
DirtySanchez Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 25 minutes ago, DazBob said: Not sure you needed to call him a spaz. Anyway, so you're answer is it's gone well for some and not gone well for some. Brilliant 😊 He was mellowing out from having called Farrelli a nonce Quote
Farrelli Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Mr Tangent spinning his bollocks. Team Boris is alive and well😂 Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: So as a current supporter of Brexit, have you benefitted from the UK leaving as your earlier supposition posited? Me personally no, and I never believed I would get any personal gain. I also haven’t suffered because of Brexit. Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, Farrelli said: Mr Tangent spinning his bollocks. Team Boris is alive and well😂 Everyone including your good noncey self getting all of a do because I’m wondering why none of the main parties want to get us back in the EU. Bonkers hey Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, royal white said: Me personally no, and I never believed I would get any personal gain. I also haven’t suffered because of Brexit. So then you would agree that there is a myriad of reasons why people support Brexit and not just because of personal benefit? Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said: So then you would agree that there is a myriad of reasons why people support Brexit and not just because of personal benefit? Of course, But now the majority, well according to yougov polls are against it, so as per my opening question. Why do none of the main parties want us back in the EU? Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, royal white said: Of course, But now the majority, well according to yougov polls are against it, so as per my opening question. Why do none of the main parties want us back in the EU? So if it's not of personal benefit, and so far there are few examples of significant benefit, would it not be logical to begin to question the value of it, rather than just accept the 'will of the people' as we do in every democracy every four or five years? Quote
DirtySanchez Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, royal white said: Of course, But now the majority, well according to yougov polls are against it, so as per my opening question. Why do none of the main parties want us back in the EU? Imagine having a gym membership, it costs you £50 a month but you're not happy with it so leave Then you realise the other gyms are a bit shit and you want to rejoin But you're told it would cost £500 as you'd previously left and the terms have changed Quote
Cheese Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, royal white said: Of course, But now the majority, well according to yougov polls are against it, so as per my opening question. Why do none of the main parties want us back in the EU? Because there are millions of flids like you who are too thick to understand reality. Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: So if it's not of personal benefit, and so far there are few examples of significant benefit, would it not be logical to begin to question the value of it, rather than just accept the 'will of the people' as we do in every democracy every four or five years? Ok so what is the value of it? If there isn’t any (to you and me there may be nothing to others a lot) then whats the next step? Surely a referendum. How is the next party going to reverse all of these negative impacts that Brexit has supposedly brought to us without trying to get back in the EU? Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, royal white said: Ok so what is the value of it? If there isn’t any (to you and me there may be nothing to others a lot) then whats the next step? Surely a referendum. How is the next party going to reverse all of these negative impacts that Brexit has supposedly brought to us without trying to get back in the EU? Just to reiterate, do you think there is value in questioning the vote? Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Imagine having a gym membership, it costs you £50 a month but you're not happy with it so leave Then you realise the other gyms are a bit shit and you want to rejoin But you're told it would cost £500 as you'd previously left and the terms have changed Or what if you had a chance to negotiate? Quote
DirtySanchez Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, royal white said: Or what if you had a chance to negotiate? You could But as no one knows the outcome of those negotiations then no party is going to say lets rejoin In the same way you could say I'll rejoin the gym and I'll renegotiate with the gym and say ok we'll knock it down to £495 You'll look a bit of a cock when they say no thanks Edited May 15, 2024 by DirtySanchez Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said: Just to reiterate, do you think there is value in questioning the vote? I read it as valuing Brexit. So who do we leave it up to, those in power? Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said: You could But as no one knows the outcome of those negotiations then no party is going to say lets rejoin So how about a manifesto that’s states we will start negotiations with theEU in regards to probably rejoining in say 5 years. The slightest possibility of rejoining should be a vote winner shouldn’t it? Quote
royal white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 10 minutes ago, Cheese said: Because there are millions of flids like you who are too thick to understand reality. Whats the reality then? You haven’t a clue really have you Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, royal white said: I read it as valuing Brexit. So who do we leave it up to, those in power? It's a simple question really, if there are a myriad of reasons why people support Brexit beyond personal benefit as youve agreed, and other benefits have been in short supply, do you think it is reasonable that people question the decision made, as we do in every democracy regardless of the outcome of the referendum? Quote
DirtySanchez Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, royal white said: So how about a manifesto that’s states we will start negotiations with theEU in regards to probably rejoining in say 5 years. The slightest possibility of rejoining should be a vote winner shouldn’t it? No See above Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Imagine you had a gym membership that cost you £50. Then you had the opportunity to explore a load more that weren't there before. Some may be shit, others not so. Some may be cheaper, others not so. Imagine if that gym membership also restricted you to not being able to use someone else's gym at the same time, if it was better or cheaper. Or maybe even put restrictions on your ability to set your own up. And just Imagine that your membership fee is significantly more than someone else's, even if you do get a bit back, and that other members get extra benefits that you don't get, unfairly making them fitter at your expense. Just Imagine. Quote
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